2025-26 College Football Thread

[Sydla]

My point was that in the NFL division winners get auto bids to the playoffs whether ther division was good or not

That’s all

You can’t apply NFL to college because the NFL tries to make uniform the whole process. Balnlance out the divisions, schedules, etc as best they can. You don’t have close to that kind of uniformity in college.

 

[DFWJC]

sure its controllable
now running up the score is frowned upon but in situations like this when you have to impress a committee that is a standard feature

if oregons coach chose not to do it then I tip my hat to him
but was that what happened?

Honestly they did not impress me at all the whole season

I don’t care about Oregon one way or the other.
ND either for that matter (I have 2 great friends that are ND grads)

It’s just ironic that we have pages of useless arguments on Notre Dame yet “unimpressive” Oregon has one loss thats better than both of theirs.

And the beat USC worse as well

Are you unimpressed with ND now?

Anyway, I guess you’ve set up your argument that if JMU somehow keeps it close, Oregon sucked anyway

 

[DFWJC]

You can’t apply NFL to college because the NFL tries to make uniform the whole process. Balnlance out the divisions, schedules, etc as best they can. You don’t have close to that kind of uniformity in college.

Well, I also included the NCAA basketball tourney—which everyone loves.
It has a ton of autobids to the “undeserved”

 

[gtb1943]

My point was that in the NFL division winners get auto bids to the playoffs whether ther division was good or not

That’s all

which will not change but I think they should
if you have a division with no winning teams NONE of them should be in the playoffs

 

[gtb1943]

I don’t care about Oregon one way or the other.
ND either for that matter (I have 2 great friends that are ND grads)

It’s just ironic that we have pages of useless arguments on Notre Dame yet “unimpressive” Oregon has one loss thats better than both of theirs.

And the beat USC worse as well

Are you unimpressed with ND now?

Anyway, I guess you’ve set up your argument that if JMU somehow keeps it close, Oregon sucked anyway

Well frankly if JMU does win does that not support my point that Oregon has been unimpressive

 

[DFWJC]

Well frankly if JMU does win does that not support my point that Oregon has been unimpressive

Sounds like you will believe what you believe regardless of the outcome

That’s fine.
I do t want to fall into this black hole that’s been going on in this thread for a week.

Like dogs chasing their tails with nobody budging

Go for it

 

[atlantacowboy]

Who is "we"?
Because I have about as much interest in watching OU play Bama in another 20-20 type game as I do in watching a Taylor Swift concert. 0. It is zero.


At least in JMU you are seeing someone get their shot at forever. 1 CFP win makes them the hottest national story for 10 days.
Players and a team that would never get my eyeballs will do so. AND my rooting interest.
Few outside the SEC or Big 10 care about the waste of the SEC or Big 10 getting one more team in.

If the SEC and Big 10 want to create a super league of 48-64 teams they have every ability to do so. But until they do they are beholden to 136 teams to give them all a shot at the CFP.

The only team with a legit complaint is BYU who won 11 regular season games including 3 current top 25 match ups.
Notre Dame came up 1 point short twice then had a SOS outside the top 40. Not deserving with 1 top 25 win.
UT had 3 losses and 2 more wins in OT. Not deserving.
Vandy had the best single player but a mediocre at best defense and wasn't really competitive in its two losses.
Utah took a bad beat at home then lost the rivalry game. Struggled in any games they couldn't run the football.

This year is a prime example why the 5 conf champ rule is excellent. Without it people just pretend a bunch of helmet schools are entitled to spots after they underachieved.

Last year everyone was up in arms over the auto bye rule which was overblown and goofy complaints.
If it was auto byes Ohiot State would be 5 and get Tulane then JMU....
How would they ever recover?? I mean they only won the Natty as the 8 seed last year.

Disagree. Most of the country wants to see the 12 best teams. JMU and Tulane don't belong. Its charity not merit. I'd rather see Vandy play Oregon than JMU.

Your "Helmut" schools are where football talent is concentrated. It's not evenly distributed.

 

[DFWJC]

Disagree. Most of the country wants to see the 12 best teams. JMU and Tulane don't belong. Its charity not merit. I'd rather see Vandy play Oregon than JMU.

Your "Helmut" schools are where football talent is concentrated. It's not evenly distributed.

I highly doubt most of the country does not want a G6 autobid even they arent in the top 12.
In fact, I bet its not remotely close.

The talking heads on TV do not represent the masses. They rep the the P2, primarily.

I DO think most of the country would prefer 16 teams though....but not give up the G6 inclusion

 

[gtb1943]

Sounds like you will believe what you believe regardless of the outcome

That’s fine.
I do t want to fall into this black hole that’s been going on in this thread for a week.

Like dogs chasing their tails with nobody budging

Go for it

So basically you don't want to believe it so therefore you don;t

 

[jterrell]

Honestly I am not all that sure how good Oregon is
They lost to Indiana and it was not as close as the score said
their only good wins were Iowa and USC and neither one was all that

yeah they were 11-1 but their victories were meh at best

Oregon went 11-1 versus the 16th hardest schedule in the country.
They shared one common opponent with ND and won by 5 more points.
They beat Washington and Iowa on the road.

You are really close to getting it.

 

[jterrell]

Disagree. Most of the country wants to see the 12 best teams. JMU and Tulane don't belong. Its charity not merit. I'd rather see Vandy play Oregon than JMU.

Your "Helmut" schools are where football talent is concentrated. It's not evenly distributed.

Nope, not anymore.
Texas Tech and Indiana have a ton of it.

Texas Tech has more All-Americans than ANY SEC team.
Texas Tech has more players on the All-Texas team than TAMU or UT.
Indiana kid just won the Heisman.

The G5 CFP games have ALWAYS done well in the ratings. Penn State versus Boise drew 13.8M viewers last year. That was 5M more than Penn State versus SMU in round 1.
A large number of people tuning into the helmet versus helmet match up are doing so because they know one of those teams will lose.
The entire country outside the SEC has a well-earned SEC fatigue.

 

[DuncanIso]

 

[Sydla]

Well, I also included the NCAA basketball tourney—which everyone loves.
It has a ton of autobids to the “undeserved”

Comparing basketball to football is........................ interesting.

Also, there are 67 teams in the basketball tournament so if college football wants to go to 67 teams as well, then maybe that might make some sense.

 

[DFWJC]

Comparing basketball to football is........................ interesting.

Also, there are 67 teams in the basketball tournament so if college football wants to go to 67 teams as well, then maybe that might make some sense.

No
If it were apples/apples, there would be TEN autobids in football. It's more the concept of at least allowing 1 non P4 league champ to have a chance...not all of them

If they want to relocate all non P4 leagues to FCS status, then they can decide to not even allow 1 in.
Otherwise, have at least "some" minor way for a non P4 league champ to get in.
The only reason 2 got in this year was because of the ACC's screwed up scheduling and tie-breakers. It was a fluke

 

[jterrell]

No
If it were apples/apples, there would be TEN autobids in football. It's more the concept of at least allowing 1 non P4 league champ to have a chance...not all of them

If they want to relocate all non P4 leagues to FCS status, then they can decide to not even allow 1 in.
Otherwise, have at least "some" minor way for a non P4 league champ to get in.
The only reason 2 got in this year was because of the ACC's screwed up scheduling and tie-breakers. It was a fluke

Exactly this.
Not JMU's fault that ACC had a 5 loss Champ and it is pretty dang cool for a school 5 years into FCS level to get this longest of long shots and money and exposure.
I am the kind of person that will always fight for the little guy to have a seat the table.

 

[jterrell]

Nope, not anymore.
Texas Tech and Indiana have a ton of it.

Texas Tech has more All-Americans than ANY SEC team.
Texas Tech has more players on the All-Texas team than TAMU or UT.
Indiana kid just won the Heisman.

The G5 CFP games have ALWAYS done well in the ratings. Penn State versus Boise drew 13.8M viewers last year. That was 5M more than Penn State versus SMU in round 1.
A large number of people tuning into the helmet versus helmet match up are doing so because they know one of those teams will lose.
The entire country outside the SEC has a well-earned SEC fatigue.

1 example

 

[gtb1943]

Oregon went 11-1 versus the 16th hardest schedule in the country.
They shared one common opponent with ND and won by 5 more points.
They beat Washington and Iowa on the road.

You are really close to getting it.

I guess you only look at scores and nothing else
not surprising at all

 

[gtb1943]

1 example

and Iowa only went what 8-4?

 

[gtb1943]

Exactly this.
Not JMU's fault that ACC had a 5 loss Champ and it is pretty dang cool for a school 5 years into FCS level to get this longest of long shots and money and exposure.
I am the kind of person that will always fight for the little guy to have a seat the table.

you can either make sure the 12 best are in
OR
you can play favorites for whatever reason
but at least you should be honest enough to admit that
NO WE DID NOT CHOSE THE 12 BEST

 

[jterrell]

just a bunch of helmet schools