3-4 Defense

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Im not well versed with the 3-4 defense so I need a little help. If there are 2 recievers on the same side why cant both corners stick them? The Eagles and the Giants iso'd their recievers on our safety for easy touchdowns, what do you think the Panthers will do with Steve Smith? Somebody tell me the reason both corners cant go to one side. Does everybody play it like that?
 

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I'm not an expert but I believe the idea is that you want your defense dictating to the offense instead of reacting to it. The 3-4 usually uses alot of zones and zone blitzes and by moving the corner to the other side of the field the design of the zone no longer works. The only time a corner would move with the wide receiver is if the defense is in man coverage.

It's not only 3-4 defenses that do this, alot of 4-3 teams work this way as well.
 

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I think we should use mostly man-to-man because our cornerbacks are infinitely better in coverage than our safeties. But it would make our defense more predictable.
 

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That is a good question, and unfortunately I do not have a solid answer....but, ZONERS on this board will get the right answer for you.....
 

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yennor24;1119625 said:
Im not well versed with the 3-4 defense so I need a little help. If there are 2 recievers on the same side why cant both corners stick them? The Eagles and the Giants iso'd their recievers on our safety for easy touchdowns, what do you think the Panthers will do with Steve Smith? Somebody tell me the reason both corners cant go to one side. Does everybody play it like that?

They can play 3-4 man defense. In 3rd downs it's common to go from a 3-4 to a nickel defense which is a 4-2-5 defense or even a dime 4-1-6 in 3rd and 20+ yards.
 

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TobiasEagle77;1119669 said:
I'm not an expert but I believe the idea is that you want your defense dictating to the offense instead of reacting to it. The 3-4 usually uses alot of zones and zone blitzes and by moving the corner to the other side of the field the design of the zone no longer works. The only time a corner would move with the wide receiver is if the defense is in man coverage.

It's not only 3-4 defenses that do this, alot of 4-3 teams work this way as well.

Every 3-4 defense is run differently, unforunately, ours isn't one of these. While we use zones, we RARELY blitz. Parcells prefers to exercise man-on-man stiuations, forcing all players to beat their assigned offensive counterpart. For most teams, I think this works well, but for some, apparently like the Giants...it doesn't.
 

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yennor24;1119625 said:
Im not well versed with the 3-4 defense so I need a little help. If there are 2 recievers on the same side why cant both corners stick them? The Eagles and the Giants iso'd their recievers on our safety for easy touchdowns, what do you think the Panthers will do with Steve Smith? Somebody tell me the reason both corners cant go to one side. Does everybody play it like that?

First of all, if it's a matchup man, the corners will follow their match. That's true regardless. But 4-3 or 3-4, if the offense has 3 receivers in the pattern someone is going to be covered by someone other than the cornerbacks. It's just not that hard to isolate someone on a S or LB.

Take home? Your players have to be able to cover receivers.

David.
 

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So what most of you are saying is we wil continually get wideouts matched against safetys?
 

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yennor24;1119625 said:
Im not well versed with the 3-4 defense so I need a little help. If there are 2 recievers on the same side why cant both corners stick them? The Eagles and the Giants iso'd their recievers on our safety for easy touchdowns, what do you think the Panthers will do with Steve Smith? Somebody tell me the reason both corners cant go to one side. Does everybody play it like that?
The play against the Eagles that Watkins was burned on was a corner blitz.
 

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The play against the Eagles that Watkins was burned on was a corner blitz.

Which one? Henry was playing zone on the Basket TD IIRC. Are you takingabout the flea flicker? Hmm. maybe I've got it backwards.
 

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yennor24;1119625 said:
Im not well versed with the 3-4 defense so I need a little help. If there are 2 recievers on the same side why cant both corners stick them? The Eagles and the Giants iso'd their recievers on our safety for easy touchdowns, what do you think the Panthers will do with Steve Smith? Somebody tell me the reason both corners cant go to one side. Does everybody play it like that?

If we were in man coverage, and if we were smart enough to blanket the best receiver with T-New, our CB's would be on the same side.

The times we've ended up with safeties on the WR deep has nothing to do with how they were lined up but the fact that we were in a zone where the CB was releasing the receiver at 8-10 yards and playing short...Watkins was running with the receiver deep whether the guy ran a fly, post, corner, or in an earlier game, a double move route.

And how the secondary plays has nothing to do with whether you're in a 4-3 or a 3-4.
 

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yennor24;1119625 said:
Im not well versed with the 3-4 defense so I need a little help. If there are 2 recievers on the same side why cant both corners stick them? The Eagles and the Giants iso'd their recievers on our safety for easy touchdowns, what do you think the Panthers will do with Steve Smith? Somebody tell me the reason both corners cant go to one side. Does everybody play it like that?

I would think putting a WR in motion would defeat this.

Anyways, 2 deep coverage is supposed to defeat any deep throws [unless you have Watkins or Aaron Glenn on your team] :(


Our lbs/dbs only need to cover 1/5 of the field.
 

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eduncan22;1120108 said:
I would think putting a WR in motion would defeat this. It does tend allow the flood on a side.

Anyways, 2 deep coverage is supposed to defeat any deep throws [unless you have Watkins or Aaron Glenn on your team] :( 2 deep (or Cover2) MAN will be pretty stout against a deep ball to a WR. A Cover 2 zone will not be because you will end up with a safety on a WR.


Our lbs/dbs only need to cover 1/5 of the field.

All defenses have counters and exploites as do offenses.
 
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