4 TE - No WR Combo, can it work?

TwoCentPlain

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Just wondering and trying to think outside the box and get our presently best players on the field at the same time.

Smith, Leary, Fred, Martin, Free as OL
Collins at blocking TE, and Witten, Escobar, and Hanna as TEs/WRs.
Weeden at QB and Randle/Dunbar/McFadden/Beasley at RB.

Witten, Escobar, and Hanna can either block or go out for passes. I would think defenses would have to sub out two CBs with either safeties or LBs to match up with the TEs to try to stop the run. I would think the defense would also be forced to defend man-to-man instead of zone. If the defenders play off, maybe good chance to run. If the defenders play press coverage, I like my chances with Witten, Escobar, and Hanna on seam routes.

I think we could get creative with Dunbar in these situations. Depending on whether the defense subs the CBs with a S or LB, we could motion Dunbar out as a WR and motion a TE into the backfield as a FB to help block.
 

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At this point worth a try. With the pass catching ability of our RB's and to date the non production of our WR's its a very creative way of changing up.

Good post
 

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I'm sure there are lots of things that could work, but we're not going to try it. We are playing not to lose now. Eliminate TO's and play safe conservative football. Unfortunately our D didn't keep there end of the bargain.
 

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playing with a QB that doesn't check down all the time and Wr that doesnt drop passes would help more............... Sorry bro just irritated about yesterdays game
 

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We just got demolished int he second half b/c we couldn't throw the ball downfield.

This idea might work on a 3rd and 1, but as a scheme, it would be dreadful.
 

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We just got demolished int he second half b/c we couldn't throw the ball downfield.

This idea might work on a 3rd and 1, but as a scheme, it would be dreadful.

Why do you assume we wouldn't throw from this formation? I envision being able to throw/run 50-50. We are just throwing the ball to TEs matched up against LBs and safeties in this formation. We also have our 6 best OL out there to help run the ball better and pass block better. And we force the team to take out their two starting CBs and substitute with either their 3rd and/or 4th string safety or their 4th and/or 5th string LB. This forces the team to go to their safety and LB depth. I doubt they would leave their 180-200 pound CBs one-on-one with 250 pound TEs all game. If they choose to do so, I like my chances running the ball.
 

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Great goal line formation. You're going to get murdered if you play this formation in any other situation.
 

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I like the idea of this formation of for no other reason than it forces teams to take their CBs out and use backup LBs.
 

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Great goal line formation. You're going to get murdered if you play this formation in any other situation.

How so? How are you defending it? Taking your CBs out and replacing with safeties or LBs? Are you playing man or zone? Are you blitzing?
 

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No. Field has to be stretched. They played small ball yesterday, see the results.
 

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How so? How are you defending it? Taking your CBs out and replacing with safeties or LBs? Are you playing man or zone? Are you blitzing?

It's not that difficult to defend unless you're trying to hold a team <2 yards. That many big bodies can't and won't move quickly enough or fluidly enough to do anything other than block straight ahead or maybe pull a couple on a sweep. There simply isn't enough room for them to all operate and expect to do anything more than pick up a couple yards. Just play everyone straight up or have your DT cut and shoot, creating gaps for LBs. If that's the case, I will take the athleticism and speed of NFL defenders over that any day.

I can all but guarantee you that no one here is going to come up with some inconceivable formation that suddenly confounds defenses. Jumbo formations are nothing new. Teams have done it for years. Its well established goal line procedure and ineffective in much else.

Maybe we should just bring back the single wing or power option?
 

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too many bodies crammed down at the line of scrimmage no way are you going to be able to get an accurate read on the defense.
 

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Sometimes it could work
The pats do it some
But stretching the field is what was needed in the second half yesterday
 

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Why do you assume we wouldn't throw from this formation? I envision being able to throw/run 50-50. We are just throwing the ball to TEs matched up against LBs and safeties in this formation. We also have our 6 best OL out there to help run the ball better and pass block better. And we force the team to take out their two starting CBs and substitute with either their 3rd and/or 4th string safety or their 4th and/or 5th string LB. This forces the team to go to their safety and LB depth. I doubt they would leave their 180-200 pound CBs one-on-one with 250 pound TEs all game. If they choose to do so, I like my chances running the ball.
I didn't say we wouldn't throw.

I said we wouldn't throw down the field.
 
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