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That was how much time was left on the clock in the 2nd QTR when the Cowboys got possession.

Shockingly Parcells told Henson to take a knee :enough:.

Doesn't Henson need every competitive snap he can get. Couldn't he work on the 2 minute offense, hurry up offense/ no huddle offense. The score in the preseason game don't necessarily matter.......evaluation is most important.

We were on our own 26 yard line. Its not like we were pinned inside the 5 or worse on the goal line. Don't tell me David Greene isn't a better QB for making that mistake on the safety. I bet it will stick in his mind and make him better.

It will be interesting to see if Parcells addresses the "kneel-down" in his press conference. Of course he'll say don't read too much into it, but .................
 

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It's called a "hint". Some people see it....others don't.
 

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I think that was the death knoll for Henson. It is over for that dude.
 

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I think you guys are getting carried away, Henson may not make the backup spot this year but Dallas is not going to give up on him as quickly as the fans do.
 

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I thought they would let him TRY to get it into field goal range.....
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I think you guys are getting carried away, Henson may not make the backup spot this year but Dallas is not going to give up on him as quickly as the fans do.

It seems that some fans never will give up on him while the powers that be may already have.
 

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At first I didn't think much of it, but Henson needs to play in every scenario possible.

Even Al and John were somewhat shocked but then (IMHO) I think they backed off after realizing what just happened if you couple the kneel down with his erratic play to that point.

I think its coming obvious that the biggest mistake this past off-season wasn't sending Henson to NFLE.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I think you guys are getting carried away, Henson may not make the backup spot this year but Dallas is not going to give up on him as quickly as the fans do.
I haven't, I don't think the organization has, but Parcell did atleast for those last .47 secs
 

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Jimz31 said:
It seems that some fans never will give up on him while the powers that be may already have.

And you know that the Powers that Be have given up on them? Sorry not buying it some media type and fans who have really no inside information but only their personal opinion. I think Dallas knows Henson is a project and I don't think their timeline on him is the same as fans that have absolutely no patients what so ever.
 

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Now let's see..we play these guys in the regular season.

Do you think either of these old school coaches in Holmgrin and Parcells are going to do anything to tip their hand to the other about anything in pre-season that might effect the regular season game..?

Nope.

Therefore, you don't run the 2 minute offense in a situation like that. You don't let the scouts on the opposing team get a look at what you might be doing.

Not until it's necessary.

BP is playing things very conservatively offensively. He's placing the pressure on the OL and the running game to produce and carry the team and keep the pressure off the QB to have to make big plays.

And the offense in the 2 Minute Drill does that. Also, if you run 2-3 pass plays and they go incomplete..you punt and leave the opposition time to return it and score at the half, too.

This makes for second guessing and loss of confidence and BP isn't about to do that stuff without a good reason.

He was right..the 1st half was well enough played and he wanted to go into the halftime with a lead and momentum.

You will see us do that alot. Especially if we are leading at the half. Which means we are playing well.

Not a problem.

later

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Charles said:
I haven't, I don't think the organization has, but Parcell did atleast for those last .47 secs

Sorry I don't see that meaning too much, I know many others will read everything into that so be it.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
And you know that the Powers that Be have given up on them? Sorry not buying it some media type and fans who have really no inside information but only their personal opinion. I think Dallas knows Henson is a project and I don't think their timeline on him is the same as fans that have absolutely no patients what so ever.

No, I don't....but I can see the forest for the trees.

I do have patience with QB's....3 years worth, so he has another year in my book. This is one thing that I've been consisten on.....unlike others here.

Having, said that, I am not blind either. Right now, he doesn't have the head for it. I couldn't give a rip about arm strength if he doesn't have the head for it. If he doesn't fix this, he will not be here in 2007.
 

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Jimz31 said:
No, I don't....but I can see the forest for the trees.

I do have patience with QB's....3 years worth, so he has another year in my book. This is one thing that I've been consisten on.....unlike others here.

Having, said that, I am not blind either. Right now, he doesn't have the head for it. I couldn't give a rip about arm strength if he doesn't have the head for it. If he doesn't fix this, he will not be here in 2007.

I agree Henson has a lot of work to do and I have never said anything other than that. All I'm saying is I don't think Dallas is going to give up on him as quickly as some fans do. Not trying to start an argument nor making excuses for Henson.
 

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Now let's see..we play these guys in the regular season.

Do you think either of these old school coaches in Holmgrin and Parcells are going to do anything to tip their hand to the other about anything in pre-season that might effect the regular season game..?

Nope.

Therefore, you don't run the 2 minute offense in a situation like that. You don't let the scouts on the opposing team get a look at what you might be doing.

Not until it's necessary.

BP is playing things very conservatively offensively. He's placing the pressure on the OL and the running game to produce and carry the team and keep the pressure off the QB to have to make big plays.

And the offense in the 2 Minute Drill does that. Also, if you run 2-3 pass plays and they go incomplete..you punt and leave the opposition time to return it and score at the half, too.

This makes for second guessing and loss of confidence and BP isn't about to do that stuff without a good reason.

He was right..the 1st half was well enough played and he wanted to go into the halftime with a lead and momentum.

You will see us do that alot. Especially if we are leading at the half. Which means we are playing well.

Not a problem.

later

parcellswaterboy

You are kidding right?

You think that Holmgren doesn't know that Henson is not the starter? You think that Holmgren wouldn't know that BP (if he actually ran the plays) was just practicing the drill to see what Henson could do?

Shoot....why not just forfeit every pre-season game....that way, other teams wouldn't know squat.

In fact, the more I think about it, the better I like the idea. :whip:
 

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parcellswaterboy said:
Now let's see..we play these guys in the regular season.

Do you think either of these old school coaches in Holmgrin and Parcells are going to do anything to tip their hand to the other about anything in pre-season that might effect the regular season game..?

Nope.

Therefore, you don't run the 2 minute offense in a situation like that. You don't let the scouts on the opposing team get a look at what you might be doing.

Not until it's necessary.

BP is playing things very conservatively offensively. He's placing the pressure on the OL and the running game to produce and carry the team and keep the pressure off the QB to have to make big plays.

And the offense in the 2 Minute Drill does that. Also, if you run 2-3 pass plays and they go incomplete..you punt and leave the opposition time to return it and score at the half, too.

This makes for second guessing and loss of confidence and BP isn't about to do that stuff without a good reason.

He was right..the 1st half was well enough played and he wanted to go into the halftime with a lead and momentum.

You will see us do that alot. Especially if we are leading at the half. Which means we are playing well.

Not a problem.

later

parcellswaterboy


But that doesn't explain why Parcells called the time out in the final 2 minutes of the half. He wanted time on the clock when they got the ball back. What changed? They could still run basic pass plays. They didn't have to show Seattle anything. I would hope they have more plays with Bledsoe at the helm in Week 7 than in the second pre-season game with Henson.
 

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parcellswaterboy said:
Now let's see..we play these guys in the regular season.

Do you think either of these old school coaches in Holmgrin and Parcells are going to do anything to tip their hand to the other about anything in pre-season that might effect the regular season game..?

Nope.

Therefore, you don't run the 2 minute offense in a situation like that. You don't let the scouts on the opposing team get a look at what you might be doing.

Not until it's necessary.

BP is playing things very conservatively offensively. He's placing the pressure on the OL and the running game to produce and carry the team and keep the pressure off the QB to have to make big plays.

And the offense in the 2 Minute Drill does that. Also, if you run 2-3 pass plays and they go incomplete..you punt and leave the opposition time to return it and score at the half, too.

This makes for second guessing and loss of confidence and BP isn't about to do that stuff without a good reason.

He was right..the 1st half was well enough played and he wanted to go into the halftime with a lead and momentum.

You will see us do that alot. Especially if we are leading at the half. Which means we are playing well.

Not a problem.

later

parcellswaterboy
You make some great points. Infact almost impossible to counter.

It could be nothing. It could be Parcells playing it close to the vest.

Just one fans opinion. I think it would have been a scenario that would assist in development of Henson........closing drive
 

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parcellswaterboy said:
Now let's see..we play these guys in the regular season.

Do you think either of these old school coaches in Holmgrin and Parcells are going to do anything to tip their hand to the other about anything in pre-season that might effect the regular season game..?

Nope.

Therefore, you don't run the 2 minute offense in a situation like that. You don't let the scouts on the opposing team get a look at what you might be doing.

Not until it's necessary.

BP is playing things very conservatively offensively. He's placing the pressure on the OL and the running game to produce and carry the team and keep the pressure off the QB to have to make big plays.

And the offense in the 2 Minute Drill does that. Also, if you run 2-3 pass plays and they go incomplete..you punt and leave the opposition time to return it and score at the half, too.

This makes for second guessing and loss of confidence and BP isn't about to do that stuff without a good reason.

He was right..the 1st half was well enough played and he wanted to go into the halftime with a lead and momentum.

You will see us do that alot. Especially if we are leading at the half. Which means we are playing well.

Not a problem.

later

parcellswaterboy
Thank You!
 

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How about the simplest solution? We would get the ball back at the beginning of the second half. There was no reason to put a developing QB in a situation where it was unnecessary to run plays for 47 seconds with a) the lead and b) the possibility of turning the ball over causing a loss of confidence.
 

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SultanOfSix said:
How about the simplest solution? We would get the ball back at the beginning of the second half. There was no reason to put a developing QB in a situation where it was unnecessary to run plays for 47 seconds with a) the lead and b) the possibility of turning the ball over causing a loss of confidence.


I was wondering if anyone was going to bring this up.

Now I can see people saying it is preseason and this is the time to try those things.

But still there was only a few seconds left, we were deep in our territory and we were getting the ball back after the half.

That does not mean that they did not do anything because he, bill, did not trust henson...maybe that indeed was the case.

But did he also not trust any of the other players on offense, no rbs and so on?

Chances are it as time to head back to the locker room, get the ball back in the second half.

I am not to worried about it to be honest as unless romo gets injured or has a complete melt down between no and the regular season...he has earned the backup job and henson has not.
 
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