49ers and Cowboys only teams in offense and defense top 10

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  1. Cowboysheelsreds053

    Cowboysheelsreds053 Well-Known Member

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    Take away JJ and the Tuna and we have not had real coaches since.
     
  2. Mr_C

    Mr_C Carharris2

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    It was two right? Pretty sure they were both bad calls. One was overwhelmingly bad.

    That voch dude that does breakdowns on YouTube that people post here said he was going to break down just how poor some of the calls on Smith have
    been.

    Here they all are. Guess he hasn’t broken them down yet.
     
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  3. nightrain

    nightrain Since 1971

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    The Cowboys will be taken advantage of by the Vikings if they continue their 2nd most penalized team play. The margin for error in this game will be slim.
     
  4. Mr_437

    Mr_437 Well-Known Member

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    Well why the Cowboys not undefeated too?
     
  5. Paradox

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    To add to that, the 49'ers kicker Gould already missed 7 FGs. He went 1 for 4 against Cleveland. On the season he's 0 for 3 from 50+, Maher is playing better while Gould's less than stellar season is generally overlooked because of their team's win column.
     
  6. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    The Patriots:

    Offense
    Scoring: 1
    Yards: 10

    Defense
    Scoring: 1
    Yards: 2
     
  7. charron

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    Talent matters more. Do you think he got that much better as a coach or did their talent base raise? This is what the 2nd year garapolo has played? That matters, those guys on defense line are mostly top 10 picks.

    2018- 9th pick
    2017- 3rd pick
    2016- 7th pick

    Go look at what we did in 2016 draft. They had 3 straight drafts just like that picking high in each round. We had 1 year vs their 3 years. Maybe Garrett should have just thrown games in the beginning to get those high picks. Now they have talent they are winning.
     
  8. ryanbabs

    ryanbabs Well-Known Member

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    This is what I was about to post...:laugh:
     
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  9. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Video 1a:
    Yes, that will get called when they see it. Tyron kept his arm extended too long.

    The DE did some acting to draw attention to it.

    Video 2a: Clearly a penalty.



     
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  10. xwalker

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    Video 1b: Clearly a penalty.
    Video 2b: Clearly a penalty.
    Video 3b: Clearly a penalty.






     
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  11. NeonNinja

    NeonNinja Dash28

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    Difference in record: coaching. That’s our problem.
     
  12. Walker

    Walker Texas Ranger

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    We have a cat now.
     
  13. Mr_C

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    As they say you can call one every time. I see far worse on Quinn regularly not called. Others too.

    The third one was his power taking the guy down.

    They’re all debatable
    On the second one: is reaching around to push/pull him by his chest not the same as pushing from the front? I haven’t seen many blocks like that, but he didn’t clip him.

    I answered those out of order. iPhone is making it hard to watch rewind then reply.
     
  14. xwalker

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    You have to watch on bigger screen to really see these plays.

    All 5 are types of blocks that routinely get flagged.

    It's a different issue if the question is: "should all of those be against the rules?"
    • I would prefer that the rules to be more lenient with regards to OL holding.
    • What was for a long long time considered a pancake block is now considered a penalty.
    • A pancake is basically only legal if the OL punches the defender and then backs off.
    • If the OL maintains contact until the defender is on the ground, it's a penalty.
     
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  15. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    The Cowboys are nowhere near the consistency and skill sets of the 49ers.
    Give it up.
    Let's just hope we never have to play these monsters.
    Vikings will provide a big enough test without hoping to play a team that, today, could beat the Patriots.
     
  16. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Coaching or Talent: Both
    • Even if he had the 2019 roster his first season as HC, they probably wouldn't have been nearly as good.
    • It generally takes time for coaching to really click with an entire team.
    • IMO, parity from the salary cap has made coaching more important than in the past.
    Side Note:
    • Shanahan is a master of the Zone Blocking Scheme.
    • Zone Blocking details have been a problem for the Cowboys on both Offense and Defense in recent times.
    • The Rams Zone Blocking was the top reason the Cowboys lost the playoff game.
    • During the losing streak this season both the offense and defense had issues with regards to Zone Blocking.
    • They changed OL and DL scheme/assignments starting with the Eagles game and it has made a big difference.
    • The Niners are somewhat opposite of the Rams in that they use a FB more than other teams while the Rams never use one.

    Niners:
    • It's interesting that the Niners were mentioned in this regard.
    • I've always thought that Harbaugh inherited one of the best situations a new HC can inherit.
    • They had put together a talented roster and Singletary had instilled a sense of discipline.
     
  17. Mr_C

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    Yeah, I was wondering exactly what one could do on a pancake now. Some of the others still seemed very iffy compared to many I see on us and others mention at the same time in the game theeaf.

    That said, I’ve clearly developed a persecution complex as a fan after the no hold streaks, illegal fake sub, false start on long snapper etc. I’ll try to watch on a bigger screen, but I’ll trust you...
     
  18. Mr_C

    Mr_C Carharris2

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    You can be a real downer as a straight poster. :(


    I like your other “styles” better.
     
  19. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    Here I was, harbor boy, thinking me message was keen and you focus on me writing style. Do you have a job, a vocation?
    Stay busy and prosper!
     
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  20. rnr_honeybadger

    rnr_honeybadger Well-Known Member

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    This has been an issue since Wade was HC. They haven't done it so far.
     

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