53 underclassmen declare early for draft - why didn't we stock picks?

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Is it too early for Cowboys front office/draft-bashing threads?

A record-tying 53 players declared for early entry today, story below.

OK, so we stockpiled draft picks before last April's draft for what we knew was a weak draft class (we ended up with 12 guys anyway). By stockpile, I mean two picks before the draft I can think of, the fourth rounder from the Lions (a deal swung in the previous draft) and a six pick for Ferguson (from Miami also swung in 2008).

But .. we apparently didn't try to trade any of our eventual 2009 dozen picks forward into 2010 for what would be a big year for underclassman because of the uncapped year blah blah blah ... Nobody I ever heard from the Boys said anything about trying to trade those picks in news conferences last April when you thought they would have said so ...

So, we only have six picks (at the moment) in a banner draft class..

Yet smart guys like Belichick managed to trade two third rounders last draft (plus change) for two second-round picks this year, an approach any wise draftnik on this board would have tried to do. ...

Just sayin' .... OK I will say it - IMO I'm afraid more Jerry short sightedness and snafu when it comes to draft day ...

It's a result of the Cowboys draft-day philosophy. Their philosophy is to let deals come to them in the war room rather than seek them out, "be buyers not sellers" (This is Jerry's philosophy he's spoken of, not something I'm making up) .. So Jerry, Stephen et al sit by the phone last April and wait for offers to come in to snatch one of their many picks, for a future deep-draft-year 2010 pick. And it never comes, because teams know 2010 is a deep class. At least we could have tried to prod some teams out of 2010 picks, something Belichick was able to do ...

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(AP) - The expected heavy influx of nonseniors applying for this year's NFL draft did not happen despite looming labour unrest in the league.

Although a record-tying 53 players declared for early entry, that number released yesterday by the NFL was short of projections. "I think that the colleges have really done a good job of telling these young men how it is to their advantage to stay in school," said NFL draft consultant Gil Brandt. With a potential rookie wage scale in the next collective bargaining agreement, more juniors were expected to declare.

Six All-Americans did apply: defensive backs Eric Berry of Tennessee and Joe Haden of Florida; defensive end Derrick Morgan of Georgia Tech; tight end Aaron Hernandez of Florida; linebacker Rolando McClain of Alabama; and wide receiver Golden Tate of Notre Dame. Mississippi QB Jevan Snead, Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen, Southern California running back Joe McKnight and Penn State linebacker Navorro Bowman also declared early for April's draft.

The 53 players match the previous high in 2008; last year, 46 declared. Brandt said: "If you are good enough, you will get it (the money) anyway. This way, you get to enjoy your senior year and get that diploma."
 

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For whatever reason that Patriots seem to always end up with multiple high draft picks. You keep referring to them but few teams get picks like they do. We aren't the only ones without three 2nd round picks, you know?
 

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This draft isn't spectacular by any stretch.

People were trying to say that the player we get at the bottom of 1 would be a guy that normally goes 15 ish.

I call BS.

Besides DT and OT the top of the draft is very weak.

20-32 There is no Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Michael Oher, Mike Jenkins, Felix Jones........There is no stud WR, S, CB down there either.
 

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Only 7 more juniors declared then last year. Whats the big deal again?
 

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igtmfo;3246056 said:
Is it too early for Cowboys front office/draft-bashing threads?

A record-tying 53 players declared for early entry today, story below.

OK, so we stockpiled draft picks before last April's draft for what we knew was a weak draft class (we ended up with 12 guys anyway). By stockpile, I mean two picks before the draft I can think of, the fourth rounder from the Lions (a deal swung in the previous draft) and a six pick for Ferguson (from Miami also swung in 2008).

But .. we apparently didn't try to trade any of our eventual 2009 dozen picks forward into 2010 for what would be a big year for underclassman because of the uncapped year blah blah blah ... Nobody I ever heard from the Boys said anything about trying to trade those picks in news conferences last April when you thought they would have said so ...

So, we only have six picks (at the moment) in a banner draft class..

Yet smart guys like Belichick managed to trade two third rounders last draft (plus change) for two second-round picks this year, an approach any wise draftnik on this board would have tried to do. ...

Just sayin' .... OK I will say it - IMO I'm afraid more Jerry short sightedness and snafu when it comes to draft day ...

It's a result of the Cowboys draft-day philosophy. Their philosophy is to let deals come to them in the war room rather than seek them out, "be buyers not sellers" (This is Jerry's philosophy he's spoken of, not something I'm making up) .. So Jerry, Stephen et al sit by the phone last April and wait for offers to come in to snatch one of their many picks, for a future deep-draft-year 2010 pick. And it never comes, because teams know 2010 is a deep class. At least we could have tried to prod some teams out of 2010 picks, something Belichick was able to do ...

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(AP) - The expected heavy influx of nonseniors applying for this year's NFL draft did not happen despite looming labour unrest in the league.

Although a record-tying 53 players declared for early entry, that number released yesterday by the NFL was short of projections. "I think that the colleges have really done a good job of telling these young men how it is to their advantage to stay in school," said NFL draft consultant Gil Brandt. With a potential rookie wage scale in the next collective bargaining agreement, more juniors were expected to declare.

Six All-Americans did apply: defensive backs Eric Berry of Tennessee and Joe Haden of Florida; defensive end Derrick Morgan of Georgia Tech; tight end Aaron Hernandez of Florida; linebacker Rolando McClain of Alabama; and wide receiver Golden Tate of Notre Dame. Mississippi QB Jevan Snead, Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen, Southern California running back Joe McKnight and Penn State linebacker Navorro Bowman also declared early for April's draft.

The 53 players match the previous high in 2008; last year, 46 declared. Brandt said: "If you are good enough, you will get it (the money) anyway. This way, you get to enjoy your senior year and get that diploma."

we dont need quanity players this year in the draft, we need quality players, impact players that can play right away,
 

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cowboyjoe;3246111 said:
we dont need quanity players this year in the draft, we need quality players, impact players that can play right away,

True and don't forget almost our entire draft class from last year will be back.
 

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1. Yes, it is too early.

2. Better deals are to be had Jerry's way, because then the other party is more motivated, and they have some idea if the player they want will (or may) be available.

3. Notice any other teams swapping hypothetical draft picks? Think there's a reason?
 

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cowboyjoe;3246111 said:
we dont need quanity players this year in the draft, we need quality players, impact players that can play right away,
But come April we will probably be told only three or four of our draftees can even make the team anyways and people will buy it.

As for quality versus quantity, I am always in favor of the numbers. The more picks the better. It reduces the margin for error. That is exactly how we built our last dynasty. And draft for "quality" makes busts that much more damaging, which is why we went into the depths we did. That said six picks, all of them late in the round, is something I would like to see changed.
 

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quaigs;3246083 said:
Only 7 more juniors declared then last year. Whats the big deal again?

Unfortunately, the original poster and many others do not realize this.

Initially, the thought was there would be a deluge of juniors declaring.

It never happened.
 

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igtmfo, do you happen to remember what the patriots gave up to pick up those extra picks? There must be buyers in order to sell. Who exactly do you think we should have traded and who do you think would have been a willing trade partner? Just curious.
 

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superpunk;3246383 said:
What do we need to do to get in a position to draft Tebow?

I assume you are being sarcastic.

you should always add :rolleyes: or ;) when trying to sarcastic. Otherwise people might think you were being serious.
 

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JBond;3246419 said:
I assume you are being sarcastic.

you should always add :rolleyes: or ;) when trying to sarcastic. Otherwise people might think you were being serious.

Anyone that takes SP serious deserves a flogging.

...or at least to be made fun of and humiliated on the interwebs.
 

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The Realist;3246073 said:
This draft isn't spectacular by any stretch.

People were trying to say that the player we get at the bottom of 1 would be a guy that normally goes 15 ish.

I call BS.

Besides DT and OT the top of the draft is very weak.

20-32 There is no Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Michael Oher, Mike Jenkins, Felix Jones........There is no stud WR, S, CB down there either.

Eric Berry is about as close as anyone can get to the Ed Reed mold....
There are stud WR, Dez Bryant? just to name one.
The top is not any weaker than last year, most drafts are heavy in a few positions anyways....
 

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JBond;3246419 said:
I assume you are being sarcastic.

you should always add :rolleyes: or ;) when trying to sarcastic. Otherwise people might think you were being serious.
I have sarcastic remorse.
 
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