90's Boys Offense v. Today

Teague31

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With the return of Red and the talk that he will install the Norv offense of the 90's, thought I would take a look at how this year's offensive personnel stack up against those great 90's teams.

QB- Aikman v. Romo- As much as we all love Romo, this one is a no brainer in favor of Troy.

RB- Emmitt v. Julius- Another no brainer for Emmitt.

FB- Moose v. whomever- Moose.

WR- Irvin v. TO- Close but score another for the 90's- edge to the Playmaker.

WR- Harper v. Glenn- Real close, Alvin always played his best in the biggest games and many of us think the slant versus SF in the 92 NFC title game was one of the biggest plays in team history. But I give the slight nod to Glenn.

TE- Novacek v. Witten- Novacek was very good but Witten is great.

LT- Tuinei v. Flo- This is the most frustrating one for me. Flo has much more natural talent than Tui ever had but has never put it together. I give the nod to Tuinei, the most underrated player on those great 90's teams.

LG- Newton v. Kosier- Nate.

C- Stepnoski v. Gurode- Maybe if Gurode strings together a few more Pro Bowls he would prevail but for now its Step.

RG- Allen v. Davis- No brainer- all Larry

RT- Big E v. Colombo- Another no brainer- Big E was the baddest man on the planet till his wreck.

Thats 9-2 in favor of the 90's... are we overrating this year's squad or were those 90's teams even better than we thought.
 

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Teague31;1553936 said:
With the return of Red and the talk that he will install the Norv offense of the 90's, thought I would take a look at how this year's offensive personnel stack up against those great 90's teams.

QB- Aikman v. Romo- As much as we all love Romo, this one is a no brainer in favor of Troy.

RB- Emmitt v. Julius- Another no brainer for Emmitt.

FB- Moose v. whomever- Moose.

WR- Irvin v. TO- Close but score another for the 90's- edge to the Playmaker.

WR- Harper v. Glenn- Real close, Alvin always played his best in the biggest games and many of us think the slant versus SF in the 92 NFC title game was one of the biggest plays in team history. But I give the slight nod to Glenn.

TE- Novacek v. Witten- Novacek was very good but Witten is great.

LT- Tuinei v. Flo- This is the most frustrating one for me. Flo has much more natural talent than Tui ever had but has never put it together. I give the nod to Tuinei, the most underrated player on those great 90's teams.

LG- Newton v. Kosier- Nate.

C- Stepnoski v. Gurode- Maybe if Gurode strings together a few more Pro Bowls he would prevail but for now its Step.

RG- Allen v. Davis- No brainer- all Larry

RT- Big E v. Colombo- Another no brainer- Big E was the baddest man on the planet till his wreck.

Thats 9-2 in favor of the 90's... are we overrating this year's squad or were those 90's teams even better than we thought.

IMO that was one of the best offenses the game has ever seen. Sure, there have been more prolific offenses such as the present era Colts or the not long ago Rams.

However, that offense was so methodical and could kill you however you wanted to be killed.

In a tight game, they were just as likely to hold the ball nearly the whole quarter and remove any chances whatsoever of a comeback victory.

No telling what would have happened if Jimmy stayed, Big E did not get in a wreck, Irvin stayed off the crack and Troy did not take one concussion too many.

We could be looking at quite possibly another piece or two of Lombardi hardware.

It is amazing what they accomplished and no telling what they could have accomplished had we kept that core for a couple of more years.

Those were some good ole' days.
 

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I'd take Novacek over Witten so for me, it would be 10-1. Man, without a doubt those years were very, very good and miss it very very much and I could only hope that the current squad can play close to 90s offense level.
 

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03EBZ06;1553945 said:
I'd take Novacek over Witten so for me, it would be 10-1. Man, without a doubt those years were very, very good and miss it very very much and I could only hope that the current squad can play close to 90s offense level.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, but they are such different players. Witten is so young though that by the time his career is over this argument could be a no brainer.

Can't go wrong with either.
 

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The team in the 90's was just that good. I think it's the best team ever assembled, but then I'm pretty biased. As a result, even though the current team's offense doesn't compare with the great 90's team, that doesn't mean it isn't a damn good one.
 

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Teague31;1553936 said:
Thats 9-2 in favor of the 90's... are we overrating this year's squad or were those 90's teams even better than we thought.

During the early 90's there was only one other team in the league that was even close talent wise - the 49er's. Due to free agency and the salary cap, those two teams where the last of a breed of super teams. Today no one in the league could even come close to matching the talent. For example, today's Colts v. the '93 Cowboys are close maybe as far as offensive skill players, but the Colt's O-line is no where as dominant as that O-line the boys had, and their Defense completely pales in comparison to the early 90's boys.
 

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Teague31;1553936 said:
With the return of Red and the talk that he will install the Norv offense of the 90's, thought I would take a look at how this year's offensive personnel stack up against those great 90's teams.

QB- Aikman v. Romo- As much as we all love Romo, this one is a no brainer in favor of Troy.

RB- Emmitt v. Julius- Another no brainer for Emmitt.

FB- Moose v. whomever- Moose.

WR- Irvin v. TO- Close but score another for the 90's- edge to the Playmaker.

WR- Harper v. Glenn- Real close, Alvin always played his best in the biggest games and many of us think the slant versus SF in the 92 NFC title game was one of the biggest plays in team history. But I give the slight nod to Glenn.

TE- Novacek v. Witten- Novacek was very good but Witten is great.

LT- Tuinei v. Flo- This is the most frustrating one for me. Flo has much more natural talent than Tui ever had but has never put it together. I give the nod to Tuinei, the most underrated player on those great 90's teams.

LG- Newton v. Kosier- Nate.

C- Stepnoski v. Gurode- Maybe if Gurode strings together a few more Pro Bowls he would prevail but for now its Step.

RG- Allen v. Davis- No brainer- all Larry

RT- Big E v. Colombo- Another no brainer- Big E was the baddest man on the planet till his wreck.

Thats 9-2 in favor of the 90's... are we overrating this year's squad or were those 90's teams even better than we thought.

Keep in mind....the 90 team was proven.....it is hard to compare with today's team.
 

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If this team wins two SBs it will compare although I still wouldn't rate the entire team as comparable; just the offense. I think our WR/TEs are the best in team history overall. They just need to win.
 

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The OL comparison is the compelling difference between yesterday and today. Unless our line improves further this season, our record will continue to reflect the difference.
 

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lspain1;1554242 said:
The OL comparison is the compelling difference between yesterday and today. Unless our line improves further this season, our record will continue to reflect the difference.


Well, I do agree with you that the OL is not comparative, at this point. However, I do believe that the OL has a chance to become very good. The fact that Romo is more mobile and can make things happen, out of the pocket, much better then Troy ever could is going to help here. Our current WR set is much better then what Troy ever had to work with, IMO. I also think that you have to look at the RB situation as Emmitt vs JJ/Barber, which is a much more favorable comparison. Lastly, I think our defensive personel is much better now then it was then. Seriously, I really do think our defense has a chance to be lights out. The 90s defense, IMO, was never really great. They lead the league in some things but I really attribute that more towards the Offenses ability to control and dictate the flow of the game. We had some great players in spots but I don't view them in the same light as I did some of the Dooms Day defenses of the 70s. This defense, I think, has a chance to be a truely great one. JMO.
 

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Nice work.

Tuinei started going down hill after the 1993 season. I always thought that if Erik Williams had not been injured in his car accident in 1994 that rookie Larry Allen would have been starting at left tackle before the year was out. Tuinei was the weak link that year. So the comparison of Tuinei to Flozell is pretty darned close. At least once Larry Allen joined the team and especially when Larry was the RG. Now prior to 1994, Tui was pretty good.

I give the slight edge to Alvin Harper and I do mean slight. I am not a big Harper fan. He was not a great receiver, but he was very good in his role. I think Glenn is the better receiver, but Harper just did more. Especially in the playoffs, which is why I give him the slight edge. Harper played in 10 playoff games, caught 24 passes for 655 yards(27.3 avg.) and scored 4 TDs. Glenn has played in 8 playoff games, caught 30 passes for 407 yards(13.6 avg.) and scored 0 TDs. Glenn also has a game changing fumble.
 

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I give the edge to Glenn. Harper had a HOF QB throwing to him and played against defenses that had to focus on stopping one of the best running attacks of all time. I think if you put Glenn on the Cowboys in the early 90's he would have been a star.
 

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Teague31;1553936 said:
With the return of Red and the talk that he will install the Norv offense of the 90's, thought I would take a look at how this year's offensive personnel stack up against those great 90's teams.

QB- Aikman v. Romo- As much as we all love Romo, this one is a no brainer in favor of Troy.

RB- Emmitt v. Julius- Another no brainer for Emmitt.

FB- Moose v. whomever- Moose.

WR- Irvin v. TO- Close but score another for the 90's- edge to the Playmaker.

WR- Harper v. Glenn- Real close, Alvin always played his best in the biggest games and many of us think the slant versus SF in the 92 NFC title game was one of the biggest plays in team history. But I give the slight nod to Glenn.

TE- Novacek v. Witten- Novacek was very good but Witten is great.

LT- Tuinei v. Flo- This is the most frustrating one for me. Flo has much more natural talent than Tui ever had but has never put it together. I give the nod to Tuinei, the most underrated player on those great 90's teams.

LG- Newton v. Kosier- Nate.

C- Stepnoski v. Gurode- Maybe if Gurode strings together a few more Pro Bowls he would prevail but for now its Step.

RG- Allen v. Davis- No brainer- all Larry

RT- Big E v. Colombo- Another no brainer- Big E was the baddest man on the planet till his wreck.

Thats 9-2 in favor of the 90's... are we overrating this year's squad or were those 90's teams even better than we thought.

I'm amazed at how much this mirrors my thinking. The Novacek/Witten comparison is the toughest in my mind - you can't blame anyone for going either way.

AS for overestimating our current offense - I don't really think anyone believed it was at or even very close to the offense of the 1990's anyway, so I don't see that the comparison tells us much in that regard.
 

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Our O line was so much better that that over shadows everything. I agree that the Doomsday D's of the 70s were better then the 90's D, but that 90's O line was just so good and so dominant. They could impose their will on any D line in football and did.
 
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