A 3rd QB I Wouldn't Mind Bringing In

[Hostile]

Isn't Jim Jeffcoat also a Sun Devil?

You are correct. I was thinking UTEP, but that was Tolbert. Add him to my respect ASU list.

 

[joseephuss]

I wish we wouldn't have cut Moore as we lack a developmental QB. Johnson is a stopgap and not someone that will be around long.

Isn't Bartel on the practice squad? Big guy with a big arm. Wouldn't he count as a developmental QB?

 

[dogunwo]

There is no way we could bring in another guy this season, but I would be very much in favor of trading as high as a 4th or 5th for McCown in the off-season. With JaMarcus on board, and Culpepper there, the Raiders should be more willing to deal. McCown has shown flashes of ability, and has a playing style similar to Romo.

 

[Hostile]

There is no way we could bring in another guy this season, but I would be very much in favor of trading as high as a 4th or 5th for McCown in the off-season. With JaMarcus on board, and Culpepper there, the Raiders should be more willing to deal. McCown has shown flashes of ability, and has a playing style similar to Romo.

I say let's replace Brad Johnson and the missing 3rd QB with both McCown brothers this off season.








For those of you who don't know...I'm joking.









I really would do it though if it didn't cost picks. Seriously.










Fell for it again didn't ya? Joking.










Or am I?

 

[joseephuss]

There is no way we could bring in another guy this season, but I would be very much in favor of trading as high as a 4th or 5th for McCown in the off-season. With JaMarcus on board, and Culpepper there, the Raiders should be more willing to deal. McCown has shown flashes of ability, and has a playing style similar to Romo.

A 4th rounder would be a high price to give up for McCown. The Raiders got both McCown and Mike Williams for one 4th round pick.

 

[the kid 05]

dare i say it....Ricky Ray

 

[Yeagermeister]

If we are going to replace Johnson I'd rather have Leftwich.

 

[aikemirv]

If we are going to replace Johnson I'd rather have Leftwich.

I gotta say that the transition from Romo's quick release to Leftwich's windup would be more than the receivers could handle!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I would be all over Walter. I loved that guy coming out. Thought he was the best of the bunch, outside of Alex Smith, coming out that year. Honestly, I wanted to try and get him last year. Raiders seriously screwed with him. Threw that kid out there with nothing on offense last year. That was brutal. I'd try to get him. I really like Walter.

 

[superpunk]

I'm really not sure why this thread isn't about Byron Leftwich.

Walters was a disaster in Oakland. Displayed almost no talent, despite Raiders fans big to-do about how talented he is.

He was garbage - and I know how bad their franchise is. But at least a little talent should shine through. It didn't, not with Walter.

Sorry Hos, don't see the point. Bartel can be our project for now.

 

[dogunwo]

I'm really not sure why this thread isn't about Byron Leftwich.

Walters was a disaster in Oakland. Displayed almost no talent, despite Raiders fans big to-do about how talented he is.

He was garbage - and I know how bad their franchise is. But at least a little talent should shine through. It didn't, not with Walter.

Sorry Hos, don't see the point. Bartel can be our project for now.

YOU are on the Leftwich bandwagon?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm really not sure why this thread isn't about Byron Leftwich.

Walters was a disaster in Oakland. Displayed almost no talent, despite Raiders fans big to-do about how talented he is.

He was garbage - and I know how bad their franchise is. But at least a little talent should shine through. It didn't, not with Walter.

Sorry Hos, don't see the point. Bartel can be our project for now.

I honestly don't know how anybody would know if he has talent or not, based on his play with Oakland. I had opportunity to watch him last year and I'm not kidding when I say that he was literally running for his life on almost every play. 46 Sacks less then 12 full games. That's over 60 sacks for a season. That's a lot.

 

[superpunk]

YOU are on the Leftwich bandwagon?

No. That was just a rib.

I honestly don't know how anybody would know if he has talent or not, based on his play with Oakland. I had opportunity to watch him last year and I'm not kidding when I say that he was literally running for his life on almost every play. 46 Sacks less then 12 full games. That's over 60 sacks for a season. That's a lot.

Even when you're getting killed on a bad team, you can show talent. Walters showed none.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No. That was just a rib.


Even when you're getting killed on a bad team, you can show talent. Walters showed none.

Not when youre repeatedly asked to do 7 step drops and your oline is a sieve.

 

[jterrell]

i just dont see us adding a qb at all unless romo gets injured.

we could swap out ps qbs if someone we like better than bartel comes available but I don't see us using a roster spot on a guy that doesn't participate on any special teams and just eats a roster space.

the obvious reason to have a 3rd qb is as a developmental player but walter is as about as old as romo.

 

[superpunk]

i just dont see us adding a qb at all unless romo gets injured.

we could swap out ps qbs if someone we like better than bartel comes available but I don't see us using a roster spot on a guy that doesn't participate on any special teams and just eats a roster space.

the obvious reason to have a 3rd qb is as a developmental player but walter is as about as old as romo.

And he just got finished being beaten out by Josh McCown (who I like).

Sorry, I just don't see the appeal.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

No. That was just a rib.


Even when you're getting killed on a bad team, you can show talent. Walters showed none.

I have to agree with Fuzzy on this. The Oakland offense was horrible. I mean, it's not even about talent with that offense last year. They run a vertical offense and couldn't keep guys off the QB long enough to even complete three and five step drops. To me, the guy just had no chance last year. I don't know how good or bad he is. He just never had opportunity to get anything done, that I could see.

 

[superpunk]

I have to agree with Fuzzy on this. The Oakland offense was horrible. I mean, it's not even about talent with that offense last year. They run a vertical offense and couldn't keep guys off the QB long enough to even complete three and five step drops. To me, the guy just had no chance last year. I don't know how good or bad he is. He just never had opportunity to get anything done, that I could see.

It's kind of the same line of thinking everyone wants to have with Spears and Canty - that they were just being held back by scheme and coaching ineptitude.

That's rarely the case. You can still play the hell out of your position no matter how stupid your coaching staff is. You might not produce, but you'll show flashes. Walters didn't do that at all last year. There's no reason to think he'll change.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's kind of the same line of thinking everyone wants to have with Spears and Canty - that they were just being held back by scheme and coaching ineptitude.

That's rarely the case. You can still play the hell out of your position no matter how stupid your coaching staff is. You might not produce, but you'll show flashes. Walters didn't do that at all last year. There's no reason to think he'll change.

No, it's nothing like that. You can not compare a kid who got thrown into the starting QB position with no prior starts and no talent on offense to a couple of young DLs who have had starting experience and are not producing.

I don't agree on Walter. He may or may not have something but based on his play in Oakland, there is no way to say one way or the other. He just never had a chance. I'm saying this having watched at least 5 of his starts. Seriously, he had no chance.

 

[superpunk]

No, it's nothing like that. You can not compare a kid who got thrown into the starting QB position with no prior starts and no talent on offense to a couple of young DLs who have had starting experience and are not producing.

I don't agree on Walter. He may or may not have something but based on his play in Oakland, there is no way to say one way or the other. He just never had a chance. I'm saying this having watched at least 5 of his starts. Seriously, he had no chance.

Ok. If that's what you want to think, have a blast.




It's exactly like that.