A case for Nkemdiche at #4

[tyke1doe]

I said this in another thread I started, but I agree that Nkemdiche is a superstar talent. He's not a 1 technique. He's perfect for the 3 technique. If we could put Crawford at RDE and move Lawrence back to LDE, then THAT would be a formidable DL. Maybe sign a 1 technique to replace Hayden.

All that said, I'm not sure Cowboys should take a guy with questionable character for the 4th pick. Just not sure how much of a risk Nkemdiche would be, but he is a freak physically. Moves like a LB, but strong as an Ox.

I agree.

He has too many question marks for the #4 pick. We either need a quarterback of the future or a player who can make an instant impact and one we're not worried about being suspended or doing something crazily stupid that has him missing game.

Now, if we can get him in the second, I'm all for it. But I don't think he'll last that long. Definitely a freak though.

 

[texbumthelife]

I agree.

He has too many question marks for the #4 pick. We either need a quarterback of the future or a player who can make an instant impact and one we're not worried about being suspended or doing something crazily stupid that has him missing game.

Now, if we can get him in the second, I'm all for it. But I don't think he'll last that long. Definitely a freak though.

I just don't see it at all. Nothing about his play, athleticism, ability or physique says freak to me.

 

[tyke1doe]

I just don't see it at all. Nothing about his play, athleticism, ability or physique says freak to me.

I've seen some of his plays while watching Ole Miss games. He's blown up plays in the backfield. And he's definitely an athlete because he lined up at tailback sometimes too. He's big and he's fast for a 300 lber.

But as has been said, he's inconsistent. He would dominate at times then you wouldn't hear from him again.

We need sure-things with the #4 pick - as sure as one can get. So, No, to the Nkemdiche.

 

[texbumthelife]

I've seen some of his plays while watching Ole Miss games. He's blown up plays in the backfield. And he's definitely an athlete because he lined up at tailback sometimes too. He's big and he's fast for a 300 lber.

But as has been said, he's inconsistent. He would dominate at times then you wouldn't hear from him again.

We need sure-things with the #4 pick - as sure as one can get. So, No, to the Nkemdiche.

I saw him plenty too, at least 5 times this season, and I never saw anything resembling dominance. I guess he must be a freakish athlete, but I don't see it translated on the field. Like I said, I just don't see it. I am actually watching videos right now trying to see what scouts and other people are so high on right now.

 

[AzorAhai]

What I am basically hearing is that there are no DL that are worthy of a top 10 pick in this draft other than Bosa, who from what I have seen so far, doesn't look all that impressive on tape himself.

I disagree. I think Shaq Lawson is going to fly up draft boards. IMO he's going to be a top 10 pick and I think it's warranted. I've even seen several big time draftniks suggest he's on par with Bosa or only slightly lesser of a prospect.

 

[texbumthelife]

Watching his tape against Alabama this year right now. The athleticism is obvious, he gets gobbled up by bigger players quite a bit though. He seems to have a hard time transitioning between power and quickness.

 

[LatinMind]

Because the guy doesn't play up to the hype? I am sorry, but Nkemdiche is the most over hyped guy in this draft. His game tape does not show much, in fact it echoes his poor stat lines. I know stats aren't everything, but they are one way prospects are validated and they aren't there. He was consistently double teamed, and rarely won those battles. He didn't spend much time in the backfield and was run out of a lot of plays. He doesn't have great burst or technique. Looks like a 3-4 DE to me. He may be a first round talent, but he is nowhere near top five talent. The fact he is even being uttered as a top ten pick is more of a testament to how weak this draft is than anything else.

Oh and FTR, the guy is being talked about quite a bit around here, his name comes up in nearly every thread. He's even being mentioned in the Fan Zone. No one here is sleeping on him.

Nkemdiche is overrated highly but not as high as Ramsey.

 

[texbumthelife]

Nkemdiche is overrated highly but not as high as Ramsey.

You better duck, or hide out in the shelter with me. I think we are the only two who think that and some are getting violent about it.

 

[LatinMind]

You better duck, or hide out in the shelter with me. I think we are the only two who think that and some are getting violent about it.

Ramsey is a quitter. The guy turns on his whole secondary when they give up big plays. Blames everybody but himself.

 

[texbumthelife]

Ramsey is a quitter. The guy turns on his whole secondary when they give up big plays. Blames everybody but himself.

Well, I didn't know that about him. I try to stay away from tabloid/attitude stuff until much closer to the draft, but I was already down on the guy and that doesn't help.

 

[egn22]

You could probably trade back and still get him along w extra picks. He's slipping right now.

 

[Avery]

I stopped reading simply at the title.

 

[LatinMind]

Well, I didn't know that about him. I try to stay away from tabloid/attitude stuff until much closer to the draft, but I was already down on the guy and that doesn't help.

you dont even need to read it just watch him vs oregon

 

[texbumthelife]

you dont even need to read it just watch him vs oregon

Looks like he has a little Greg Hardy in him where he will go at his own. Even got kicked out of practice by Jimbo Fisher for it.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The dude that got as high as a kite and dove off a balcony at pick 4???

Is this a serious question???

 

[darthseinfeld]

You better duck, or hide out in the shelter with me. I think we are the only two who think that and some are getting violent about it.

Ramsey?

Maybe one of the most overrated prospect in the past 10 years. How is a Safety with no playmaking skills a top 5 prospect?

 

[texbumthelife]

Ramsey?

Maybe one of the most overrated prospect in the past 10 years. How is a Safety with no playmaking skills a top 5 prospect?

I see our house of sin now has three... haha

 

[BAT]

I'd take him if he has a monster combine. Will have to see.

I hope he absolutely blows it up at the combine so some team trades a kings ransom to us for the right to take him. Football isn't played in shirts and shorts.

 

[neosapien23]

Even before Nkemdiche fell out of a window, I did not think of him as a top ten pick. He just didn't dominate at the college level. He could be the next Poe or the next bust, with his issues, I would wager on bust. I have no problem with drafting a DT in the 2nd round or trading down in the 15s and targeting Billings on Clark.