A few concerns about Lamb

[Qcard]

Did... did you just say he's not that great of an athlete?

This is embarrassing....

In-game athletism.. we've scene the one hand statue of liberty grab, ability to run through, over and around tackles...

Out-game athleticism....best pirouette leaping grab in NFL Combine Route drills...

Yet somehow @CATCH17 questions Lamb's athleticism.....troll

 

[Gaede]

I totally understand Catch's concerns. There's nothing wrong with saying that this was the best pick we could've made, but still highlighting why he was still available to us. All valid criticisms of the player.

But that doesn't mean he won't totally rock in our offense.

 

[Rockport]

I’m happy with the pick. It had to be him or Chaisson or else the 1st round would’ve been a failure.

Can’t have it both ways.

 

[ghst187]

you can check my other posts, not crazy about the pick but not upset either.
He’s a tremendous athlete and a freak of a football player.
He has a slight frame but he should have plenty of pro success because he a route technician.
He’s also sudden, quick, explosive player. Perhaps most importantly, he’s a competitor and I can only imagine him lining up across from Jordan Lewis in camp....should be incredible matchup of some feisty competitors.

Sure, the defense needed help more...but I see a lot less bust potential in Lamb than Chaisson. We can’t afford another first pick bust. like Taco or Hill.

 

[Qcard]

First off let me say that if Dallas didn’t pick Lamb or Chaisson then they failed with their pick.

I had Lamb as my best WR in the 1st round but not necessarily the best fit for Dallas.

When I watch Lamb he is an incredible open field runner and he can win 50/50 throws.



Here is some of my concerns:

1. He’s not that great of an athlete..

4.51 40 and 34 inch vertical point to a lack of explosiveness. When you watch him he just kind of floats. He doesn’t have that quick suddenness in his route or a lot of top end speed to separate at the top of routes

2. He played with 3 Heisman candidates in a conference that plays no defense on the best team. We constantly got to watch him play in a ton of space.

3. Dak... Dak tends to like the separation receivers and isn’t going to throw guys open or give his guy chances to make a play on the ball.


Dallas got the pick right.. I’m just not as sold as this being a total slam dunk simply because I’m not 100% sold on what he does translating to the pro’s and our QB’s strengths specifically.

Congrats...1st Dak Hater Disguised Thread, post Lamb draft..

Troll

 

[Rockport]

I totally understand Catch's concerns. There's nothing wrong with saying that this was the best pick we could've made, but still highlighting why he was still available to us. All valid criticisms of the player.

But that doesn't mean he won't totally rock in our offense.

And there’s nothing wrong with questioning his opinion. Especially when he says Cee Dee Lamb is not a great athelete.

 

[nobody]

4.5 40

34 inch vert

Not that great in terms of testing compared to other athletes.

My comparison for him though is Deandre Hopkins and Hopkins ran a 4.56 40 with a 36 inch vert. Also not that impressive.

I'll take a receiver who's a little bit worse than the best as an athlete who can freaking catch like he can...rather than taking amazing athletes who drop so many passes that you wonder why they're taken. And he seemed like a plenty good athlete to me.

 

[CATCH17]

I had Lamb as my best WR in the 1st round

Every player has concerns I think especially when you project how they will do in certain situations.

IMO, Jeudy was probably the best Dak fit but for our overall offense I think Ruggs would’ve made our offense more dangerous then all of them because of the matchups he would get and if a team paid too much attention to Zeke then he would leave the entire secondary in the dust as well as stretching out defenses vertically and creating space for others.

Ruggs was the best space creator in this draft imo.

Jeudy was the best crafty WR with the suddenness of Antonio Brown.

Lamb is the bigger body / Body control/ great hands / after catch guy.

 

[Zekeats]

First off let me say that if Dallas didn’t pick Lamb or Chaisson then they failed with their pick.

I had Lamb as my best WR in the 1st round but not necessarily the best fit for Dallas.

When I watch Lamb he is an incredible open field runner and he can win 50/50 throws.



Here is some of my concerns:

1. He’s not that great of an athlete.. WRONG!!!

4.51 40 and 34 inch vertical point to a lack of explosiveness. When you watch him he just kind of floats. He doesn’t have that quick suddenness in his route or a lot of top end speed to separate at the top of routes WRONG AGAIN. I see a ton of quick suddenness hence not only the broken tackles but the way he makes people miss. Actually he reminds me so much of Hopkins and Beckham. Guy can just flat out ball.

2. He played with 3 Heisman candidates in a conference that plays no defense on the best team. We constantly got to watch him play in a ton of space. Ill give you the whole HC, System but I won't give you the QB. Maybe those QBs benefited from the HC and System but facts are still facts and this guy goes and gets the ball and then goes with the ball after. Amazing balance, quickness and he's a baller.

3. Dak... Dak tends to like the separation receivers and isn’t going to throw guys open or give his guy chances to make a play on the ball.
He got plenty of separation and had to adjust to a lot of poorly thrown balls already.

Dallas got the pick right.. I’m just not as sold as this being a total slam dunk simply because I’m not 100% sold on what he does translating to the pro’s and our QB’s strengths specifically. It was a perfect alley oop pass with an EASY slam dunk. Im shocked that you of all people are questioning this pick cause I know what a huge Dez fan you are and Ill say this it shows your not a HomER on the WR position.

 

[CowboyRoy]

First off let me say that if Dallas didn’t pick Lamb or Chaisson then they failed with their pick.

I had Lamb as my best WR in the 1st round but not necessarily the best fit for Dallas.

When I watch Lamb he is an incredible open field runner and he can win 50/50 throws.



Here is some of my concerns:

1. He’s not that great of an athlete..

4.51 40 and 34 inch vertical point to a lack of explosiveness. When you watch him he just kind of floats. He doesn’t have that quick suddenness in his route or a lot of top end speed to separate at the top of routes

2. He played with 3 Heisman candidates in a conference that plays no defense on the best team. We constantly got to watch him play in a ton of space.

3. Dak... Dak tends to like the separation receivers and isn’t going to throw guys open or give his guy chances to make a play on the ball.


Dallas got the pick right.. I’m just not as sold as this being a total slam dunk simply because I’m not 100% sold on what he does translating to the pro’s and our QB’s strengths specifically.

As usual , your analysis his terrible. But lets be honest on what your #1 concern is:

1. It just got laughably worse for you Dak trolls. Time to start rooting for a broken leg.

 

[Runwildboys]

He has elite body control which you love as a receiver! You can make a lot of catches that other guys cant get to!

Burleson loves him:

Impressive. This makes me wish we'd let Cooper go and spent that money elsewhere.

 

[Diehardblues]

Lamb is a great talent. But is that the impact we think we need in 1st round to help put us over the top?

 

[Diehardblues]

Impressive. This makes me wish we'd let Cooper go and spent that money elsewhere.

Now if we’d done that then this pick is awesome addressing a big need making more sense !

And yea, we could have resigned Jones and or Heath.

 

[CATCH17]

I totally understand Catch's concerns. There's nothing wrong with saying that this was the best pick we could've made, but still highlighting why he was still available to us. All valid criticisms of the player.

But that doesn't mean he won't totally rock in our offense.

Maybe this thread would’ve gone over better in the draft zone and not the Pom Pom zone lol.

I have concerns with almost every player because I evaluate the upside, downside, and team fit.

 

[alicetooljam]

Every player has concerns I think especially when you project how they will do in certain situations.

IMO, Jeudy was probably the best Dak fit but for our overall offense I think Ruggs would’ve made our offense more dangerous then all of them because of the matchups he would get and if a team paid too much attention to Zeke then he would leave the entire secondary in the dust as well as stretching out defenses vertically and creating space for others.

Ruggs was the best space creator in this draft imo.

Jeudy was the best crafty WR with the suddenness of Antonio Brown.

Lamb is the bigger body / Body control/ great hands / after catch guy.

Ruggs is a burner, but how he went 1st among WRs is a question only the Raiders can attempt to explain.

 

[Malhavoc]

Lamb is a playmaker. A game changer. You don’t second guess getting arguably the best WR in a deep class.

 

[HellCrowe]

First off let me say that if Dallas didn’t pick Lamb or Chaisson then they failed with their pick.

I had Lamb as my best WR in the 1st round but not necessarily the best fit for Dallas.

When I watch Lamb he is an incredible open field runner and he can win 50/50 throws.



Here is some of my concerns:

1. He’s not that great of an athlete..

4.51 40 and 34 inch vertical point to a lack of explosiveness. When you watch him he just kind of floats. He doesn’t have that quick suddenness in his route or a lot of top end speed to separate at the top of routes

2. He played with 3 Heisman candidates in a conference that plays no defense on the best team. We constantly got to watch him play in a ton of space.

3. Dak... Dak tends to like the separation receivers and isn’t going to throw guys open or give his guy chances to make a play on the ball.


Dallas got the pick right.. I’m just not as sold as this being a total slam dunk simply because I’m not 100% sold on what he does translating to the pro’s and our QB’s strengths specifically.

• 40 YARD DASH: 4.57 SEC
• BENCH PRESS: 15 REPS
• VERTICAL JUMP: 36.0 INCH
• BROAD JUMP: 115.0 INCH
• 20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.50 SEC

Eerily the same as DeAndre Hopkins. Put the tape on and you can just see he’s made different. Still able to make every catch and high point balls. Now if you’re looking at “measurable,” give the guy a year to get stronger, that vert jumps at least another inch or two and also his play starting to translate from college to pros. This coming season, he’ll be the 2nd/3rd option and as much as we like to talk about developing players, he is in a great situation to just learn and develop. Love the pick

 

[Runwildboys]

Every player has concerns I think especially when you project how they will do in certain situations.

IMO, Jeudy was probably the best Dak fit but for our overall offense I think Ruggs would’ve made our offense more dangerous then all of them because of the matchups he would get and if a team paid too much attention to Zeke then he would leave the entire secondary in the dust as well as stretching out defenses vertically and creating space for others.

Ruggs was the best space creator in this draft imo.

Jeudy was the best crafty WR with the suddenness of Antonio Brown.

Lamb is the bigger body / Body control/ great hands / after catch guy.

Dak was much better last season at throwing receivers open and throwing to receivers who weren't wide open. He was also better at anticipating the WR's routes. I think with the catch radius and juke moves Lamb has, he's a very good fit for Dak.

 

[CATCH17]

Lamb is a great talent. But is that the impact we think we need in 1st round to help put us over the top?

I think outside of QB there is really no position that puts us over the top on the team.

I think adding a Joey Bosa Or Von Miller type of guy Might be the only other thing.


Right now the biggest impact we could get is from our coaching staff.

McCarthy wants to see Dak around 71% completions so to me that means we will see a lot of shorter throws similar to what New England has been doing.

 

[Cmac]

First off let me say that if Dallas didn’t pick Lamb or Chaisson then they failed with their pick.

I had Lamb as my best WR in the 1st round but not necessarily the best fit for Dallas.

When I watch Lamb he is an incredible open field runner and he can win 50/50 throws.



Here is some of my concerns:

1. He’s not that great of an athlete..

4.51 40 and 34 inch vertical point to a lack of explosiveness. When you watch him he just kind of floats. He doesn’t have that quick suddenness in his route or a lot of top end speed to separate at the top of routes

2. He played with 3 Heisman candidates in a conference that plays no defense on the best team. We constantly got to watch him play in a ton of space.

3. Dak... Dak tends to like the separation receivers and isn’t going to throw guys open or give his guy chances to make a play on the ball.


Dallas got the pick right.. I’m just not as sold as this being a total slam dunk simply because I’m not 100% sold on what he does translating to the pro’s and our QB’s strengths specifically.

To calm your concerns:
1. Film don't lie
2. Film still don't lie
3. Heisman candidates played with him too.
4. Film still don't lie

We shall see.....No draft pick for any team is proven until proven.