A missed opportunity that may be a blessing in disguise

[Redball Express]

PFT says Jerry wanted to offer a 2nd and 3rd to move up to take Lynch, but Steven vetoed it.

Becuz they had to go defense going forward.

Simple as that.

And we did.

So I always understand Jerrah wanting to go offense.

That's his perspective on the team..sizzle.

Which is fine and its gotten us this far.

When you have used top picks to build an offensive line like we have..

it means the defense has to scramble.

Which with a coach like Marrinelli..is not a risk.

With a Rob Ryan..yes.

So lets not worry about it for now.

 

[dogunwo]

Brown may help...4.35 can't be taught

No it can't. But he could also be Jacques Reeves

 

[Vanilla2]

I believe not being able to get Lynch was a huge mistake on Jerry's part. Evidently he did too.

Dak may make up for it, but as it stands today, I believe Lynch will be a stud.

Did you think he was a stud prior to the draft?

 

[visionary]

After reading about Lynch and the Monday Morning QB piece, if you love a guy that much, the way Dallas loved Lynch, they should've pulled the trigger for him. Especially if they had him rated right next to Goff and Wentz. That means we came up with a top-tier QB and a top 5 pick in the same draft, something the Rams and Eagles couldn't say. Hopefully Lynch is a bust because or Smith turns out to be one of the most special linebackers in the game, otherwise Cowboys nation will look back at the 2016 draft for many years to come. That if we don't find a good QB soon because it is the most difficult thing to do in all of sports; finding an above average quarterback as an NFL team.

You are correct but that is hindsight

 

[Bleu Star]

IMO At a minimum he's got to represent an upgrade at backup QB over the trash we were running out there last year no?

No doubt.. Although, I believe @Floaty might take offense to your comment. Kellen is his hero.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

It makes me feel better about the front office that there are enough checks and balances to keep Jerry at bay. There's no reason that you can't just reevaluate the QB position a year from now and see how things look. The 3rd best QB prospect (from a group that may not even have a single day one starter) can always be had in any draft. There's no need to be desperate.

 

[reddyuta]

So everybody now is a Lynch fan,where were these Lynch fans when he has panned universally on this board except for me,YR and a couple of other guys who liked him from the beginning.To me this works out well if Jaylon smith works out ,otherwise Stephen Jones needs to grow some balls like his father.you cant always be ultra cautious ALL the TIME,you dont get an special award for that.WE are the freaking Cowboys for petes sake.

 

[DeaconMoss]

No doubt.. Although, I believe @Floaty might take offense to your comment. Kellen is his hero.

Been looking for the floatster. Wondering if he thinks Dak is gonna take his boy's spot

 

[TwoDeep3]

Did you think he was a stud prior to the draft?

I admit I am not a huge college football fan. But I did some personal research on him when after the season.

I liked Wentz a great deal, but I came around to this guy.

Before the draft.

 

[fortdick]

So after reading the MMQB thing on the Cowboys' draft process, I think that Jerry did some overthinking and let some unfounded fear rule his decisions.

Mainly, not taking the Baltimore trade of swapping #4 for #6 and picking up their 4th rounder. I think it's pretty clear that neither the Ravens nor the Jags were going to take Elliott. I think that was a missed opportunity for extra value (and to lessen Elliott's cap hit over the next five years).

But I think it may have been a blessing in disguise as well. If we picked up that extra 4th rounder, there's a good chance that we would have used that as more fuel to trade up for Lynch. Maybe with the extra high 4th, we feel like we can give up our 2nd and 3rd rounder to go get Lynch, or maybe we give up our 2nd and two 4ths to go get Lynch. And either way, I think that would have been a mistake.

I like the idea of Jaylon/Collins/Prescott more than Paxton Lynch. I could be wrong and Lynch may be a stud. But with that wonderlic and with that breezy attitude, I just can't see the dude making it. He seems like Jay Cutler 2.0 to me. I like the package we got instead.

So I think we blew a golden opportunity in a silly way. But I think missing out may have saved us in the end.

You say Jerry over thought things?

 

[kevm3]

Even if the Ravens didn't pick Zeke, I'm glad we didn't pull off that trade. Letting the Ravens, who've won the superbowl with defense, get Ramsey with our pick would be an atrocious move, especially if all we got in return was an extra 4th.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I'm glad all of the deals we were working on fell through. I didn't like any of them.

Exactly.

I don't get why everybody has such a boner for Lynch...........the dude lost by 3 TDs to a service academy

And against a 6-6 Auburn team team in the Birmingham Bowl, check out Lynch's stats............16/37 (less than 50% comp) for 106 and a pick.

Yea, dude screams franchise QB

 

[Typhus]

So after reading the MMQB thing on the Cowboys' draft process, I think that Jerry did some overthinking and let some unfounded fear rule his decisions.

Mainly, not taking the Baltimore trade of swapping #4 for #6 and picking up their 4th rounder. I think it's pretty clear that neither the Ravens nor the Jags were going to take Elliott. I think that was a missed opportunity for extra value (and to lessen Elliott's cap hit over the next five years).

But I think it may have been a blessing in disguise as well. If we picked up that extra 4th rounder, there's a good chance that we would have used that as more fuel to trade up for Lynch. Maybe with the extra high 4th, we feel like we can give up our 2nd and 3rd rounder to go get Lynch, or maybe we give up our 2nd and two 4ths to go get Lynch. And either way, I think that would have been a mistake.

I like the idea of Jaylon/Collins/Prescott more than Paxton Lynch. I could be wrong and Lynch may be a stud. But with that wonderlic and with that breezy attitude, I just can't see the dude making it. He seems like Jay Cutler 2.0 to me. I like the package we got instead.

So I think we blew a golden opportunity in a silly way. But I think missing out may have saved us in the end.

The best case scenario played out with Jerry not getting the opportunity to move up for Lynch.

He may feel right now that he missed, but in this case, a miss is a hit.

By missing we got a DE with a lot of upside, something this team desperately needed, and still came away with a QB that might end up better than all 3 of the top prospects.

Take a few minutes to review some tape on Lynch.

Concentrate on his back pedal.

Paxton has some enormous feet, Im talking Shaquille Oneal size hoofs on this guy.

His back pedal looks like hes wearing snow skis, and I can see this being a problem at the next level, with less time to get back in the pocket.

 

[jnday]

Becuz they had to go defense going forward.

Simple as that.

And we did.

So I always understand Jerrah wanting to go offense.

That's his perspective on the team..sizzle.

Which is fine and its gotten us this far.

When you have used top picks to build an offensive line like we have..

it means the defense has to scramble.

Which with a coach like Marrinelli..is not a risk.

With a Rob Ryan..yes.

So lets not worry about it for now.

I don't think that drafting Romo's replacement is s sizzle pick at all. It is a must do. Every year that it is out off is another year that will be wasted.

 

[jnday]

Exactly.

I don't get why everybody has such a boner for Lynch...........the dude lost by 3 TDs to a service academy

And against a 6-6 Auburn team team in the Birmingham Bowl, check out Lynch's stats............16/37 (less than 50% comp) for 106 and a pick.

Yea, dude screams franchise QB

That is not a fair evaluation. Lynch had zero talent around him and he done an amazing job to win the games that he did. He played great against Ole Miss. The same Ole Miss that has beat Bsma the last two years in convincing fashion. A QB can only do so much. Even Romo looked bad when he had little talent and was trying to do too much.

 

[BARRYRAY]

Lynch is more like a dud, watch his pro day, he plods along and it takes him forever to let the ball go.He is going to have real issues, he may look like a pro prospect size and arm wise but he isn't the next Peyton Manning.We will be fi

 

[Seven]

It makes me feel better about the front office that there are enough checks and balances to keep Jerry at bay. There's no reason that you can't just reevaluate the QB position a year from now and see how things look. The 3rd best QB prospect (from a group that may not even have a single day one starter) can always be had in any draft. There's no need to be desperate.

Somebody give me an amen brother.......that wildcatting approach was brutal and cost this team several times.

 

[HellCrowe]

I wasn't as high on Lynch as many others. The thing with Lynch is I've never seen him in an interview where he wowed me and from what I understand interviews are a big part of the draft process. Always came off as timid and unsure. Then someone posted his wonderlic score of what 7? Maybe 8? I'm glad we didn't bite.

 

[dallasdave]

So after reading the MMQB thing on the Cowboys' draft process, I think that Jerry did some overthinking and let some unfounded fear rule his decisions.

Mainly, not taking the Baltimore trade of swapping #4 for #6 and picking up their 4th rounder. I think it's pretty clear that neither the Ravens nor the Jags were going to take Elliott. I think that was a missed opportunity for extra value (and to lessen Elliott's cap hit over the next five years).

But I think it may have been a blessing in disguise as well. If we picked up that extra 4th rounder, there's a good chance that we would have used that as more fuel to trade up for Lynch. Maybe with the extra high 4th, we feel like we can give up our 2nd and 3rd rounder to go get Lynch, or maybe we give up our 2nd and two 4ths to go get Lynch. And either way, I think that would have been a mistake.

I like the idea of Jaylon/Collins/Prescott more than Paxton Lynch. I could be wrong and Lynch may be a stud. But with that wonderlic and with that breezy attitude, I just can't see the dude making it. He seems like Jay Cutler 2.0 to me. I like the package we got instead.

So I think we blew a golden opportunity in a silly way. But I think missing out may have saved us in the end.

Totally agree

 

[Chuck 54]

Good draft, good players, and more good players is always a good thing.

But adding more players isn't as sweet when you look back and know you really wanted someone else.

Had Dallas traded back and missed out on Elliott, Bosa, and Ramsey, I think the extra starter they may have picked up in round 2 or 3 wouldn't have seemed nearly so sweet to them. We would be looking at the draft with the same fan eyes, liking some of it, disliking some of it, but thinking the Cowboys weren't that high on those guys and wanted more players and got what they wanted. However, they'd have been sick to their stomachs knowing it wasn't what they wanted or expected at all.

I'm sure we've been happy and unhappy with many drafts, never knowing when they were lucky that someone fell into their laps or unlucky that they missed on the guy they really wanted even though the guy they took turned out to be a player.