A rule contradiction

[blindzebra]

If you spike the ball after you are tackled it's a delay, because it is deemed unsporting.

If you over celebrate or use the ball as a prop it's taunting, because it's unsporting.

If you wait until the last possible second to call a timeout to screw with the other teams kicker, it is okay.

If protecting the image of the game is so important, why is a blatantly bush league stunt allowed?

 

[theogt]

What do unsporting mean?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I think it was a loophole they did not anticipate and coaches took advantage of it.

I also think there is not much they can do about it until the season is over and the competition committee goes over things concerning keeping or changing rules.

Hate it, but it is a legal move right now and I don't think it will change until after the season is over.

 

[dallasfaniac]

They made it illegal for offenses to snap the ball if you fake a time out, yet they allow you to call timeout at the last second even though everyone goes through the motions. They stopped offenses from faking a timeout because of possible injuries, I don't see this one lasting long.

 

[03EBZ06]

The penalty on TO was bogus. He didn't spike the ball, all he did was let the ball go, again that was a BS call.

 

[peplaw06]

One of these games, the shoe will be on our foot, and Wade will do it.

If the kicker makes the first and misses the second, will you be talking about a rule contradiction, or will you be celebrating the win?

What if we had done it last season right before Shaun Suisham's kick in Washington and he had missed the second one?

If the victim team cries about it, will you call them a crybaby or agree with them that the rule needs changing?

Our kicker happened to be clutch last night. He nailed a 53 yarder not once but twice. And when I say "nailed..." each kick disappeared behind the center post of the goal post. Not a doubt on either one.

If you have a clutch kicker, *crossing my fingers that i don't jinx Folk*, this little strategic ploy is only delaying the inevitable and extending the grief the soon to be losing team will feel.

 

[percyhoward]

The Bills could have had 7 time outs, used them all, and Folk would have made all 7 FG's.

Both kicks were straight down the middle. In fact, when one of his kicks is closer to an upright than it is to the middle, you notice it.

Like I said, Folk is the robot, not JJ.

 

[ZeroClub]

If the goal is to "ice" a kicker, seems like you'd be better off calling a time-out before he kicks, rather than giving him the opportunity to take a practice kick before his real kick.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

One of these games, the shoe will be on our foot, and Wade will do it.

Yes, and he admitted as much today.

But personally, I wish we wouldn't.

It's still a stupid, sloppy rule that will be changed in the offseason. Until then, I guess we just have to put up with it.

 

[arglebargle]

They changed the rules to let the coaches call time outs. The coaches take advantage of it in cheezy gamesmanship. Next year the rules committee takes away the coaches ability to call time outs. My bet on it anyway.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes, and he admitted as much today.

But personally, I wish we wouldn't.

It's still a stupid, sloppy rule that will be changed in the offseason. Until then, I guess we just have to put up with it.

I agree. I would hate to do it then the FG kicker misses and you allow him to have another try because you got too cute.

 

[superpunk]

Wade's explanation was excellent during his press conference today, and I hadn't thought about it this way. He said that he doesn't mind it being done - it's strategy, not bush-league. What he thinks needs to happen, is that these guys need to signal the head ref - not the line judge, so that the ref can stop the game. He said you run the field goal, you expend an enormous amount of energy, and if they let the play run, someone could get hurt eventually. He drew a comparison to a stoppage of play before an offensive stop - you can't just keep running and take out the QB if a timeout or penalty goes down - the play is over and everything stops.

The same should be true of field goal tries. It's a legitimate move, but they need to stop the play.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

If you spike the ball after you are tackled it's a delay, because it is deemed unsporting.

If you over celebrate or use the ball as a prop it's taunting, because it's unsporting.

If you wait until the last possible second to call a timeout to screw with the other teams kicker, it is okay.

If protecting the image of the game is so important, why is a blatantly bush league stunt allowed?

This is the best post ever by you, BZ. I agree.

 

[Dallas]

I think Mick touched on this a bit today. This is why I also think they change the rule during the offseason.

Wade Phillips said we need to do something about the quick time outs right before the kick. This is how coaches get their priveledges taken away from them … they abuse the rule. The league made a rule change this year giving the coaches the ability to call time outs instead of the players as a way to help them out, and now the coaches have abused it and it’s going to be taken away from them.