A trade idea for Manziel (or another top player)

[KB1122]

So I tried to figure out a way to trade up to get Manziel, to get some idea of how to do it, how much it would cost, etc. The basic structure was easier than I thought.

The first question is, what pick would you shoot for. I'm going to shoot for Jacksonville at #3. Too many rumors about the Browns at #4. And if either Houston or St. Louis wants Manziel, we won't be able to stop them.

My system is two trades. Basically, I'm going to trade up for Manziel. Then I'm going to trade down my second-round pick. Surprisingly, it came out pretty even.

I'm using the numbers on Walter Football Guide's draft value chart.

http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/draftchart.php

Jax's #3 pick is valued at 2,200 points.

The Cowboys' #16 is valued at 1,000 points.

I'm going to bundle this year's No. 1 and next year's No. 1 for 2,000 points. Then I'm going going to add our third round, pick 78, with a value of 200 points. That's 2,200 points even. An exact match.

Then I'm trading down my No. 2 pick to the 49ers, who have a lot of second and third-round picks. The Cowboys 2nd round pick (#47) has a value of 430 points. The 49ers second-round pick (#56) has a value of 340 points. Their late third-round pick (#100) pick has a value of 100 points. That's 440. Close.

So the result of these trades would have the Cowboys with picks in rounds 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and a bunch of sevenths. We'd be up in value in round 1 a little down in round 2, and a good chunk down in round 3. We would lose our first-round pick next year. That would be the only outright loss.

Obviously we might have to sweeten the deals some. But that's a basic framework idea.

 

[jujoboys]

One significant flaw in your post. Next year's draft picks are worth one round lower. In other words, our 1st round pick next year is treated as if it is a 2nd round pick this year. A 1st round pick next year is not equal to a 1st round pick this year.

 

[Fredd]

...not to mention I wouldn't want Manziel....but for Mack I would consider a trade-up...I just don't want anything drastic like this...there is no one in the top 5 picks that is worth giving up that much IMO

 

[xwalker]

So I tried to figure out a way to trade up to get Manziel, to get some idea of how to do it, how much it would cost, etc. The basic structure was easier than I thought.

The first question is, what pick would you shoot for. I'm going to shoot for Jacksonville at #3. Too many rumors about the Browns at #4. And if either Houston or St. Louis wants Manziel, we won't be able to stop them.

My system is two trades. Basically, I'm going to trade up for Manziel. Then I'm going to trade down my second-round pick. Surprisingly, it came out pretty even.

I'm using the numbers on Walter Football Guide's draft value chart.

http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/draftchart.php

Jax's #3 pick is valued at 2,200 points.

The Cowboys' #16 is valued at 1,000 points.

I'm going to bundle this year's No. 1 and next year's No. 1 for 2,000 points. Then I'm going going to add our third round, pick 78, with a value of 200 points. That's 2,200 points even. An exact match.

Then I'm trading down my No. 2 pick to the 49ers, who have a lot of second and third-round picks. The Cowboys 2nd round pick (#47) has a value of 430 points. The 49ers second-round pick (#56) has a value of 340 points. Their late third-round pick (#100) pick has a value of 100 points. That's 440. Close.

So the result of these trades would have the Cowboys with picks in rounds 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and a bunch of sevenths. We'd be up in value in round 1 a little down in round 2, and a good chunk down in round 3. We would lose our first-round pick next year. That would be the only outright loss.

Obviously we might have to sweeten the deals some. But that's a basic framework idea.

How about if you were in a car wreck and they started naming all the cuts you and at the end they say "the only outright loss was the cut that removed his head from his body" ?

I've seen some really bad ideas on the forum, but this might be the winner for all time worst.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Don't like messing with next years 1st...............if this thing goes south, that might be a top 10 pick.................see Commanders for an example of what can happen trading away future ones.

 

[IAmLegend]

No.. Just... no.

 

[DFWJC]

So I tried to figure out a way to trade up to get Manziel, to get some idea of how to do it, how much it would cost, etc. The basic structure was easier than I thought.

The first question is, what pick would you shoot for. I'm going to shoot for Jacksonville at #3. Too many rumors about the Browns at #4. And if either Houston or St. Louis wants Manziel, we won't be able to stop them.

My system is two trades. Basically, I'm going to trade up for Manziel. Then I'm going to trade down my second-round pick. Surprisingly, it came out pretty even.

I'm using the numbers on Walter Football Guide's draft value chart.

http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/draftchart.php

Jax's #3 pick is valued at 2,200 points.

The Cowboys' #16 is valued at 1,000 points.

I'm going to bundle this year's No. 1 and next year's No. 1 for 2,000 points. Then I'm going going to add our third round, pick 78, with a value of 200 points. That's 2,200 points even. An exact match.

Then I'm trading down my No. 2 pick to the 49ers, who have a lot of second and third-round picks. The Cowboys 2nd round pick (#47) has a value of 430 points. The 49ers second-round pick (#56) has a value of 340 points. Their late third-round pick (#100) pick has a value of 100 points. That's 440. Close.

So the result of these trades would have the Cowboys with picks in rounds 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and a bunch of sevenths. We'd be up in value in round 1 a little down in round 2, and a good chunk down in round 3. We would lose our first-round pick next year. That would be the only outright loss.

Obviously we might have to sweeten the deals some. But that's a basic framework idea.

You already lost it when you gave next years 1st rounder the same as this years...it should 40-50% of the value at best.

 

[Mrdude108]

I don't want to move next years first at all...I wouldn't want to move up at all really because we need all of our picks but maybe for a Barr or Donald or Mack and only if its cheap to move up which is doubtful.

 

[rkell87]

can't wait for the draft so I can stop seeing this busts name everywhere on my favorite forum.