A trade idea that might make some sense

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Tampa might be shopping Glennon. They want a 2nd for him but most think they would settle for a 3rd. It looks like Ramsey wont be there at 4 and Dallas is supposedly interested in a DE and it doesn't sound like Bosa or Bunkner is the guy. I suspect Lawson might be the guy they are interested in.

Here is a potential trade idea that might benefit both teams.

Dallas trades pick 4 to Tampa for Pick 9, pick 74 and Glennon.

That is 1800 points for 1570 and Glennon. The difference is 230 points or the equivalent of a 3rd rd pick. A fairly high one too. Pick 72 to be exact. This would put Tampa in position to get a top talent like Jack, Bosa or Bunkner. We could still get Lawson, get our backup QB(Glennon) and add a 3rd rd pick.

Glennon would have to be re-signed but that shouldn't be too hard to do and it could be part of the parameters for doing the trade.

Thinking outside the box and trying to maximize resources and if we truly are interested in drafting Lawson then this might make a lot of sense.
 

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Interesting if you think that this is a good back up.

I think Glennon is a guy with all the tools that was thrown to the wolves too early and would make a good replacement for Romo in a couple or 3 years. Plus we can still get our guy at 9 and add a 3rd rd pick. I really like the options in the 3rd rd this year and could be a solid contributor. Pick 74 might be a starter on this team. 3rd Rd is the sweet spot for RB's WR's, LB's even a rotational DT or DE. It's just a thought and Glennon is probably as good a prospect as any of the QB's in this draft. I should add that Glennon has had some success and is likely more capable of filling in now if Romo is injured than any QB we could draft.
 

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Interesting idea for sure. Not trying to take pot shots but it does beg a few questions:

- Who would Tampa be trading up for?
- Who would be Tampa's backup QB?
- What would we then do at #9?
 

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Interesting idea for sure. Not trying to take pot shots but it does beg a few questions:

- Who would Tampa be trading up for?
- Who would be Tampa's backup QB?
- What would we then do at #9?

They could trade up for Jack(possibly the last of the elite players) Bosa or Buckner. I am not sure who Tampas back up QB would be but it sounds like they are interested in shopping Glennon. We could take Lawson at 9 or Hargreaves or even Treadwell, maybe even Zeke but it is based on the speculation that Dallas is targeting a DE not named Bosa or Buckner so really Lawson would be the likely target.
 

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Interesting for sure. ...great to think of ways to make the team better that are different then the normal.

Personally I want Rams 15 and both 2nds
 

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Tampa might be shopping Glennon. They want a 2nd for him but most think they would settle for a 3rd. It looks like Ramsey wont be there at 4 and Dallas is supposedly interested in a DE and it doesn't sound like Bosa or Bunkner is the guy. I suspect Lawson might be the guy they are interested in.

Here is a potential trade idea that might benefit both teams.

Dallas trades pick 4 to Tampa for Pick 9, pick 74 and Glennon.

That is 1800 points for 1570 and Glennon. The difference is 230 points or the equivalent of a 3rd rd pick. A fairly high one too. Pick 72 to be exact. This would put Tampa in position to get a top talent like Jack, Bosa or Bunkner. We could still get Lawson, get our backup QB(Glennon) and add a 3rd rd pick.

Glennon would have to be re-signed but that shouldn't be too hard to do and it could be part of the parameters for doing the trade.

Thinking outside the box and trying to maximize resources and if we truly are interested in drafting Lawson then this might make a lot of sense.

This is actually an interesting idea. I'd sort of rejected the idea of trading for a QB who's about to hit the market and look for a chance to start, but I like Glennon a lot as a backup. And we'd have lots of options at 9 that would work well for us, plus another top-100 pick.

It's a deal I wouldn't make until I saw who was there at 4, of course, because if Ramsey's there I like that pick better. But if the QB(s) we like are gone, this gives us a year at least to develop a player we like and still back up Romo. I agree that there's a chance Glennon develops into a capable starter given protection and the weapons we've got on offense. In fact, I think the Jets and the Broncos should be talking about bringing him in already.
 

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This is actually an interesting idea. I'd sort of rejected the idea of trading for a QB who's about to hit the market and look for a chance to start, but I like Glennon a lot as a backup. And we'd have lots of options at 9 that would work well for us, plus another top-100 pick.

It's a deal I wouldn't make until I saw who was there at 4, of course, because if Ramsey's there I like that pick better. But if the QB(s) we like are gone, this gives us a year at least to develop a player we like and still back up Romo. I agree that there's a chance Glennon develops into a capable starter given protection and the weapons we've got on offense. In fact, I think the Jets and the Broncos should be talking about bringing him in already.

I agree. If Ramsey is there I stay at pick 4 and take him. It would have to be a trade contingent on a couple of factors. Ramsey being off the board and Glennon signing an extension at a reasonable cost. Other QB's I might consider trying to trade for are Garappolo and Josh Mccown. If Cle go's QB at 2 which the consensus seems to dictate then they would probably be willing to deal him. I hope the FO is looking at all available options.
 

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Interesting for sure. ...great to think of ways to make the team better that are different then the normal.

Personally I want Rams 15 and both 2nds

This really is the dream scenario. Pick 15 and both 2nd's is a way to make a major impact in this draft. We would have some serious draft capitol. Hopefully Cle takes Wentz and the Rams are in love with Goff or vice-versa.
 

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I agree. If Ramsey is there I stay at pick 4 and take him. It would have to be a trade contingent on a couple of factors. Ramsey being off the board and Glennon signing an extension at a reasonable cost. Other QB's I might consider trying to trade for are Garappolo and Josh Mccown. If Cle go's QB at 2 which the consensus seems to dictate then they would probably be willing to deal him. I hope the FO is looking at all available options.

Hoyer's probably going to shake loose after the draft, too. He's a guy who's had some spotty play, but it's typically because he doesn't handle pressure well. He'd be a good fit in Dallas and wouldn't cost a pick, if there were any way to guarantee that we could land him.

I like your idea, though, assuming we like one of the QBs and not the other and assuming TB is interested in dancing with us.
 

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Only thing I would say is.

One would think that if other teams thought well of Glennon...the offers would be flying off the table and they would be in a bidding war for him since QBs are so hard to find.

I would imagine that he is not as well thought of as some on here might think.

Just something to consider.
 

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This really is the dream scenario. Pick 15 and both 2nd's is a way to make a major impact in this draft. We would have some serious draft capitol. Hopefully Cle takes Wentz and the Rams are in love with Goff or vice-versa.

I agree. We could set this team up great with that kind of haul. Even in that trade we could get Lynch then use the three round 2s and our 3rd to help build a better team now is to great to pass up.

Even if we go DL at 15 with Rankins or Billings. ...maybe Lawson our Spence then grab a QB in 2-4 to develop would be great. Lots of options there
 

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Only thing I would say is.

One would think that if other teams thought well of Glennon...the offers would be flying off the table and they would be in a bidding war for him since QBs are so hard to find.

I would imagine that he is not as well thought of as some on here might think.

Just something to consider.

I don't know why anyone wouldn't like Glennon. I suspect the asking price of a 2nd rd pick is too lofty for some teams but as we get closer to the draft they might drop their asking price and if they love Bosa, Jack or Buckner those are players they probably might be willing to trade up for. Their needs are DE's and LB and they might be thrilled at the opp to nab one. We might not be in love with Bosa or Jack but other teams might think differently.
 

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I don't know why anyone wouldn't like Glennon. I suspect the asking price of a 2nd rd pick is too lofty for some teams but as we get closer to the draft they might drop their asking price and if they love Bosa, Jack or Buckner those are players they probably might be willing to trade up for. Their needs are DE's and LB and they might be thrilled at the opp to nab one. We might not be in love with Bosa or Jack but other teams might think differently.

One thing Jerry Jones has been very consistent on saying around draft time is that trading players for draft picks are at the lowest during the draft time. IOW you don't normally get the right value for the player because so many teams value the draft picks around and during the draft.

Now maybe if they trade Glennon for Leary ...maybe that would be something to consider.

I just don't have a feeling that Jerry is going to trade picks for players since he has said for years that it is the worst time to do it.

Just something to think about.
 

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I agree. We could set this team up great with that kind of haul. Even in that trade we could get Lynch then use the three round 2s and our 3rd to help build a better team now is to great to pass up.

Even if we go DL at 15 with Rankins or Billings. ...maybe Lawson our Spence then grab a QB in 2-4 to develop would be great. Lots of options there

It would certainly offer the opportunity to fill a lot of holes. Maybe the only chance to fix the DL, the secondary and add an offensive weapon to two while still getting a developmental QB with high upside.
 

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One thing Jerry Jones has been very consistent on saying around draft time is that trading players for draft picks are at the lowest during the draft time. IOW you don't normally get the right value for the player because so many teams value the draft picks around and during the draft.

Now maybe if they trade Glennon for Leary ...maybe that would be something to consider.

I just don't have a feeling that Jerry is going to trade picks for players since he has said for years that it is the worst time to do it.

Just something to think about.

It is the worst time of the year to be the one trading a player for a pick since as you said draft picks are overvalued during the draft. It is the best time to trade pick for player though and if we are truly targeting a guy that will likely be there at 9 anyway, why not get an extra 3rd and fill the backup qb spot with a guy that not only could be developed into an eventual starter but also more prepared to fill in now in case of a Romo injury.
 

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Not a bad idea depending on how the draft unfolds. Well thought out & kudos for some originality as well.

I may have been among the 1st to mention a potential trade for Glennon on the board a while back. Greg Cosell likes him & was surprised he wasn't traded last offseason. Lovie Smith did say there were inquiries, but they decided to keep him. I think Glennon performed pretty well as a rookie in 2013 behind a terrible O-Line. Josh McCown was battered & kind of bad with the Bucs in 2014. He was sacked 36 times in 11 games started...threw 11 TD's vs. 14 Int's, lost 4 fumbles, and had a completion percentage of 56.3%. McCown's stats with the Bears & Browns were markedly better in 2013 & 2015...except fumbles lost in 2015. In 13 starts as a rookie, Glennon threw 19 TD's vs. 9 Int's...was sacked 40 times...lost 4 fumbles...& had a completion percentage of 59.4%.

Wouldn't give up a 2nd...particularly where the Cowboys are picking & given Glennon is an unrestricted free agent at seasons end. And certainly, QB's like Glennon took note of Osweiler's deal, and the deal for back up Chase Daniel. Dallas could also inquire about Garoppolo...though the Pats may want #34 given they lack a 1st & that gets them quite close. Garoppolo is younger, has 2 years left on his deal, and has some similarities to Romo (aside from the obvious school ties). On the flip side, Glennon is more proven in the NFL at this point...but that could work against trying to extend him him a bit. Either way, some assurance of an extension would be helpful given the potential compensation, though that's unlikely.

Then there's this recent article from NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...n-should-entice-rams-jets-broncos-and-cowboys
 

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Tampa might be shopping Glennon. They want a 2nd for him but most think they would settle for a 3rd. It looks like Ramsey wont be there at 4 and Dallas is supposedly interested in a DE and it doesn't sound like Bosa or Bunkner is the guy. I suspect Lawson might be the guy they are interested in.

Here is a potential trade idea that might benefit both teams.

Dallas trades pick 4 to Tampa for Pick 9, pick 74 and Glennon.

That is 1800 points for 1570 and Glennon. The difference is 230 points or the equivalent of a 3rd rd pick. A fairly high one too. Pick 72 to be exact. This would put Tampa in position to get a top talent like Jack, Bosa or Bunkner. We could still get Lawson, get our backup QB(Glennon) and add a 3rd rd pick.

Glennon would have to be re-signed but that shouldn't be too hard to do and it could be part of the parameters for doing the trade.

Thinking outside the box and trying to maximize resources and if we truly are interested in drafting Lawson then this might make a lot of sense.

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Hoyer's probably going to shake loose after the draft, too. He's a guy who's had some spotty play, but it's typically because he doesn't handle pressure well.
If he can't handle pressure well, how is that going to work if he is the QB of America's Team?
 

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If he can't handle pressure well, how is that going to work if he is the QB of America's Team?

You know what I mean. He craps the bed with a pass rush in his face. Like any QB, except he craps sooner and with more volume. He's a pretty good reserve passer when he's got time, though.
 
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