A wasted season?

[Zaxor]

Ryan Young, Dedric Ward, Richie Anderson, Vinny Testaverdi, Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Gennaro DiNapoli, Jeff Robinson, Drew Bledsoe, Marco Rivera

keep those names in mind...

When Bledsoe was first signed... I had thought it would be a completely wasted season if we did not win the SB...because of the seemingly small window of opportunity this offense seems to have...

Now I am sure all you engineers out there are gonna tell me about the building time of a large european city...

but is it necessary to use old and decaying timber in the building process?

The defense on the other hand could have been fixed with the proper materials but was condemned and torn down...

and all new equipment is being brought in to replace the worn but still functional pieces...

...forgive me if I seem to be beating out the same tune over and over...

It is just that I have this mad passion for the Dallas Cowboys and honestly feel they are going about things in the wrong way...Now I know there is little to nothing that I can do but voice my displeasure but man alive if I could...

 

[George]

The biggest consideration to me is having a poor plan in our division. We will likely finish last in our division next year.

I say Parcells has to go. Not that he isn't a good coach. He just isn't good enough.

 

[Rack]

The biggest consideration to me is having a poor plan in our division. We will likely finish last in our division next year.

I say Parcells has to go. Not that he isn't a good coach. He just isn't good enough.

My god ignorant people annoy me.

 

[Sarge]

I've said this before, there is this thing known as a salary cap nowadays. I'm not a fan of this older version of BP but he has done a good job retooling the defense. It is only going to get better, I have no doubt about that.

This offseason we'll be looking at OL as we should. The loss of Flo was bigger than most of us thought. It exposed how bad the rest of the OL was and I'll include Larry Allen in there. I'd really like to get a young QB and start the youth movement there.

I'd like BP back one more year and then he can go on his merry way.

Why? He'll rebuild the OL like he did the DL and they'll be better in time.

Further, he'll NEVER go with youth at QB so it's going to take a new HC before that happens, even if we draft one this year.

Way too many people had unrealistic expectations and that is their right.

This team is exactly where I thought they'd be - - 9-7.

One more year of rebuilding the trenches with BP, then let's move on.

IMO/FWIW

 

[Zaxor]

I've said this before, there is this thing known as a salary cap nowadays. I'm not a fan of this older version of BP but he has done a good job retooling the defense. It is only going to get better, I have no doubt about that.

This offseason we'll be looking at OL as we should. The loss of Flo was bigger than most of us thought. It exposed how bad the rest of the OL was and I'll include Larry Allen in there. I'd really like to get a young QB and start the youth movement there.

I'd like BP back one more year and then he can go on his merry way.

Why? He'll rebuild the OL like he did the DL and they'll be better in time.

Further, he'll NEVER go with youth at QB so it's going to take a new HC before that happens, even if we draft one this year.

Way too many people had unrealistic expectations and that is their right.

This team is exactly where I thought they'd be - - 9-7.

One more year of rebuilding the trenches with BP, then let's move on.

IMO/FWIW

I agree with most everything you said my friend..except that the o-line has stunk for years now not just this year but last year and the year before that and the year before that and so on...

but I am hoping it takes precedence this year

 

[Sarge]

I agree with most everything you said my friend..except that the o-line has stunk for years now not just this year but last year and the year before that and the year before that and so on...

but I am hoping it takes precedence this year

That is true, but let's be fair. BP did obtain Rivera and it was pure bad luck that he hurt his back right after being signed.

I'm not giving BP an A+ by ANY STRETCH. I'm just a little more realistic about the expectations of this team than a lot of other people.

He inherited a pathetic group of players.

I think the job BP has done will be more appreciated long after he is gone.

 

[jackrussell]

When Bledsoe was first signed... I had thought it would be a completely wasted season if we did not win the SB...because of the seemingly small window of opportunity this offense seems to have...

Well then you set yourself up for a disappointment. Your expectations were unrealistic, it should come as no surprise you're left pondering what happened when your house of cards didn't weather the storm.

 

[Zaxor]

That is true, but let's be fair. BP did obtain Rivera and it was pure bad luck that he hurt his back right after being signed.

I'm not giving BP an A+ by ANY STRETCH. I'm just a little more realistic about the expectations of this team than a lot of other people.

He inherited a pathetic group of players.

I think the job BP has done will be more appreciated long after he is gone.

I was way down on the Rivera signing I thought he was close to being done when we signed him even though he had made the probowl...

The players he got were bad but the players he has replaced them with on the oline aren't any better and we just finished year 3...

I think I am not sure what his legacy will be when he leaves...so far color me as unimpressed...

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

That is true, but let's be fair. BP did obtain Rivera and it was pure bad luck that he hurt his back right after being signed.

I'm not giving BP an A+ by ANY STRETCH. I'm just a little more realistic about the expectations of this team than a lot of other people.

He inherited a pathetic group of players.

I think the job BP has done will be more appreciated long after he is gone.

Ok. But when we were going 5-11 we could always count on 2 of the wins being against the Commanders.... so what happened?

 

[Zaxor]

Well then you set yourself up for a disappointment. Your expectations were unrealistic, it should come as no surprise you're left pondering what happened when your house of cards didn't weather the storm.

Jack I expected the team to be 8-8 but I would have expected 6-10 to 8-8 with playing Romo/Henson and being a year along in there development...

I thought it useless to sign another aging Vet (Bledsoe) if we aren't going to the SB anyway...

Hence the SB or bust...

 

[Sarge]

Ok. But when we were going 5-11 we could always count on 2 of the wins being against the Commanders.... so what happened?

If you want to take that shallow of a look at it, fair enough. But you can also look at it this way:

We got 9 wins this year and didn't have to rely on 2 wins over the Commanders to get there.

The team is better. If you choose not to believe same, good for you.

 

[jterrell]

I agree with most everything you said my friend..except that the o-line has stunk for years now not just this year but last year and the year before that and the year before that and so on...

but I am hoping it takes precedence this year

The problem with crying as you do is that it gets hard to see through the tears.

OK just messing with you there but honestly the post is a serious case of Blue Monday.

The Cowboys HAVE BEEN addressing the OL. They have been getting younger. Half the guys you listed were 1 year cheap stopgaps not long term solutions. You don't hit on every draft pick or sign every young free agent.

The cap as has been pointed out to you 1 zillion times prevents that.

We drafted Al Johnson, Jacob Rogers and Stephen Peterman day 1. We have signed Ryan Young, Marco Rivera. Thus far they have been nearly useless. 1 below average starter out of the day 1 draftee group. We went with Petitti at RT because Rogers wouldn't play through an injury and we didn't want to commit more cap cash to a veteran.

Everyone would love to have a young pro bowler at every position but it just doesnt work that way. You miss on 2nd and 3rd round picks and well you are gonna have to bring in an old guy or just suck. I'd much rather use stop gap guys like Ryan Young then to flat suck.

Contrary to popular belief I don't think you should go 3-13 every year you don't win the Super Bowl.

This team has far, far more young talented guys than it did 3 years ago. But it is clearly a work in progress. Center needs to be addressed. We need to add a young guard that can actually play. We need a RT be it Petitti developing or Rogers coming back or whatever. We do need to continually address the OL because the moves we have made have not worked out as we intended.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Ok. But when we were going 5-11 we could always count on 2 of the wins being against the Commanders.... so what happened?

And we usually lose to the Eagles, whats your point?

 

[Sarge]

And we usually lose to the Eagles, whats your point?

............exactly.

 

[George]

My god ignorant people annoy me.

Andy Reid, Joe Gibbs and Tom Coughlin are better... their teams will be better. You can talk about particulars - i.e. better OL, this guy got hurt, kicker sucks, blah, blah, blah, excuse, excuse, excuse.

Parcells ego gets him every time. He'll keep his projects and we will always be pretty good but not great.

 

[mwmilsted]

Ryan Young, Dedric Ward, Richie Anderson, Vinny Testaverdi, Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Gennaro DiNapoli, Jeff Robinson, Drew Bledsoe, Marco Rivera

keep those names in mind...

When Bledsoe was first signed... I had thought it would be a completely wasted season if we did not win the SB...because of the seemingly small window of opportunity this offense seems to have...

Now I am sure all you engineers out there are gonna tell me about the building time of a large european city...

but is it necessary to use old and decaying timber in the building process?

The defense on the other hand could have been fixed with the proper materials but was condemned and torn down...

and all new equipment is being brought in to replace the worn but still functional pieces...

...forgive me if I seem to be beating out the same tune over and over...

It is just that I have this mad passion for the Dallas Cowboys and honestly feel they are going about things in the wrong way...Now I know there is little to nothing that I can do but voice my displeasure but man alive if I could...

You are right. It's now 6 poor seasons in a row without producing a competitive team.
With Campo and BP, it's change, change change nad more change (3-4 defense, new QB's, new coaches, etc.). Let BP out to pasture and come up with a solid plan for the team you need. BP isn't good enough to do that. He's living in the the 90's. We have a bunch of 30 something players who won't be able to stick around for long. All of us have been sold on BP's idea to keep bringing in new (former players). But, that's not what most other teams do. We have pi#$ poor coaches to begin with.

 

[Sarge]

You are right. It's now 6 poor seasons in a row without producing a competitive team.
.

We were a playoff hopeful team right up to the last hours of the last week.

I'd call that being competitive.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Ryan Young, Dedric Ward, Richie Anderson, Vinny Testaverdi, Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Gennaro DiNapoli, Jeff Robinson, Drew Bledsoe, Marco Rivera

keep those names in mind...

When Bledsoe was first signed... I had thought it would be a completely wasted season if we did not win the SB...because of the seemingly small window of opportunity this offense seems to have...

Now I am sure all you engineers out there are gonna tell me about the building time of a large european city...

but is it necessary to use old and decaying timber in the building process?

The defense on the other hand could have been fixed with the proper materials but was condemned and torn down...

and all new equipment is being brought in to replace the worn but still functional pieces...

...forgive me if I seem to be beating out the same tune over and over...

It is just that I have this mad passion for the Dallas Cowboys and honestly feel they are going about things in the wrong way...Now I know there is little to nothing that I can do but voice my displeasure but man alive if I could...

Are you in the construction business? That was a great read....you bring up some very valid points to think about!

 

[kmd24]

In the last 7 years, Dallas has two seasons above .500, and Parcells owns both of them.

The worst part of this season was that the team had opportunities late and did not capitalize.

Anyone who thinks that Parcells hasn't significantly upgraded this team, including the OL, needs to go back and look at the 2002 roster.

The following 2002 OL are no longer on the team (Adams, Allen, and Gurode are the only holdovers):

T Javiar Collins
T Char-ron Dorsey
T Aaron Gibson
G/C Matt Lehr
T Marques McFadden
G/T Jeremy McKinney
T/G Solomon Page
G/T Ross Tucker
T Kurt Vollers
T Tyson Walter

Rivera, Johnson, Pettiti, and Tucker, as maligned as they are, would be difficult to replace with any of the names on that list. When I consider the OL improvements in light of the complete overhaul of the defense and skill positions, I consider it pretty amazing what has transpired in a relatively short time frame.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

In the last 7 years, Dallas has two seasons above .500, and Parcells owns both of them.

The worst part of this season was that the team had opportunities late and did not capitalize.

Anyone who thinks that Parcells hasn't significantly upgraded this team, including the OL, needs to go back and look at the 2002 roster.

The following 2002 OL are no longer on the team (Adams, Allen, and Gurode are the only holdovers):

T Javiar Collins
T Char-ron Dorsey
T Aaron Gibson
G/C Matt Lehr
T Marques McFadden
G/T Jeremy McKinney
T/G Solomon Page
G/T Ross Tucker
T Kurt Vollers
T Tyson Walter

Rivera, Johnson, Pettiti, and Tucker, as maligned as they are, would be difficult to replace with any of the names on that list. When I consider the OL improvements in light of the complete overhaul of the defense and skill positions, I consider it pretty amazing what has transpired in a relatively short time frame.