A week out ABQjr Mock

[ABQcowboyJR]

I've thought a lot about how the top of the draft is going to work out. I'm hoping for a couple teams to reach for a QB, but i'm really only seeing one go. I expect the QB selection to be a trade up scenario in the 12-18 range. Here is a list of players I expect to be gone before our pick.

Eric Fisher
Dion Jordan
Star Lotulelei
Dee Milliner
Luke Joeckel
Sheriff Floyd
Lane Johnson
Johnathan Cooper
Tavon Austin
Cordarrelle Patterson
Sheldon Richardson
Kenny Vaccaro
Geno Smith
Barkevious Mingo
Ezekiel Ansah
Jamar Taylor
Chance Warmack

So who does everyone want to take? I'd be interested to see some opinions. I'll take a shot in the dark mock based on this scenario.

1. Keenan Allen - I know you guys won't like this pick but he is right around the top of the board with the options left, IMO. He would give us some flexibility with Miles. It gives us the option to move him and get some future cap relief.

2. Larry Warford - I think he would fit just fine in our system and be a solid RG for 10 years.

3. DJ Swearinger - I have thought for a long time that he wouldn't be a JG kinda guy and they would look the other way. Call it a gut feeling, or i keep hearing Jim Garrett "we aren't the Dallas Choir Boys," but Swearinger is to talented to pass up in round 3.

4. Le'veon Bell - I think the boys feel like he has enough quickness to get the job done at the next level. He catches the ball very well and will be an asset in short yardage situations. He has proven that he can carry the load as well.

5. Brandon Jenkins - Of course this is dependent on him checking out medically, which I have heard no news that he shouldn't. I go back and watch some of his 2011 tape and man he is good. He has the talent to become one of if not the best pass rusher in this class. He turns the corner and has a great first step. He does need to add some bulk at the next level and learn to disengage vs the run. Bottom line he has some potential.

6. Demontre Hurst - He is a great tackler and not afraid to stick his nose in on run support and blitzing. He has decent size and speed for the position. I would be happy if we could snag him in the sixth.

Alright rip it up.

 

[TheSport78]

I respect the work and thought that was put into this, but other than the Le'Veon Bell pick, I'd be pretty PO'ed if the draft ended up this way for Dallas.

Also, I've heard that Bell may go in the late 2nd round now, so I doubt he'd be there in the 4th.

EDIT: If the board ended up this way, I'm taking Sylvester Williams all day.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I've thought a lot about how the top of the draft is going to work out. I'm hoping for a couple teams to reach for a QB, but i'm really only seeing one go. I expect the QB selection to be a trade up scenario in the 12-18 range. Here is a list of players I expect to be gone before our pick.

Eric Fisher
Dion Jordan
Star Lotulelei
Dee Milliner
Luke Joeckel
Sheriff Floyd
Lane Johnson
Johnathan Cooper
Tavon Austin
Cordarrelle Patterson
Sheldon Richardson
Kenny Vaccaro
Geno Smith
Barkevious Mingo
Ezekiel Ansah
Jamar Taylor
Chance Warmack

So who does everyone want to take? I'd be interested to see some opinions. I'll take a shot in the dark mock based on this scenario.

1. Keenan Allen - I know you guys won't like this pick but he is right around the top of the board with the options left, IMO. He would give us some flexibility with Miles. It gives us the option to move him and get some future cap relief.

2. Larry Warford - I think he would fit just fine in our system and be a solid RG for 10 years.

3. DJ Swearinger - I have thought for a long time that he wouldn't be a JG kinda guy and they would look the other way. Call it a gut feeling, or i keep hearing Jim Garrett "we aren't the Dallas Choir Boys," but Swearinger is to talented to pass up in round 3.

4. Le'veon Bell - I think the boys feel like he has enough quickness to get the job done at the next level. He catches the ball very well and will be an asset in short yardage situations. He has proven that he can carry the load as well.

5. Brandon Jenkins - Of course this is dependent on him checking out medically, which I have heard no news that he shouldn't. I go back and watch some of his 2011 tape and man he is good. He has the talent to become one of if not the best pass rusher in this class. He turns the corner and has a great first step. He does need to add some bulk at the next level and learn to disengage vs the run. Bottom line he has some potential.

6. Demontre Hurst - He is a great tackler and not afraid to stick his nose in on run support and blitzing. He has decent size and speed for the position. I would be happy if we could snag him in the sixth.

Alright rip it up.

I'm a little bit surprised you didn't go Werner there but I do like Allen. I don't love the idea of missing out on impact Lineman but if it happens to turn out that way, then I would not mind Allen. I like Warford at RG, I do not like Swearinger as much as you do but I could live with him. I love Bell and think he would fit in perfectly with our offense and I love Jenkins coming off injury. If he can get back to his original form, he was arguably better then Werner and Tank at FSU.

Hurst, that I don't really get but that's fine.

Good effort Son.

 

[xwalker]

1. Keenan Allen
2. Larry Warford
3. DJ Swearinger
4. Le'veon Bell
5. Brandon Jenkins
6. Demontre Hurst

Allen would be a borderline "reach" even for team that has WR as the top need.

Warford is big and slow. ZBS Guards are normally very quick.

Swearinger does not have character issues other than being an over-celebrator.

Bell would be good if available in the 4th.

Jenkins would be a OK in the 5th. He ran a bad forty at his Pro Day, but is probably not completely back from the injury.

Hurst is a 5-09 Cornerback that can't break 4.5 in the forty. That is not usually a good combination.

 

[RS12]

1) I'd rather have Wheaton, Hopkins, Williams, Hunter or Rodgers in two or lower.

2) I'd rather have Bailey in 3 or 4, Armstead in 2, or preferably Short in 2.

3) I'd rather have Kelcey, Escobar or Ellington.

4) Like this pick. Alternatives Shamarko Thomas or Akeem Spence.

5) Like the value. Alternatives Cornelius Washington or Bennie Logan.

6) I'd rather have Zac Stacy.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Allen would be a borderline "reach" even for team that has WR as the top need.

Warford is big and slow. ZBS Guards are normally very quick.

Swearinger does not have character issues other than being an over-celebrator.

Bell would be good if available in the 4th.

Jenkins would be a OK in the 5th. He ran a bad forty at his Pro Day, but is probably not completely back from the injury.

Hurst is a 5-09 Cornerback that can't break 4.5 in the forty. That is not usually a good combination.

Not really. For a RG, his 10 and 20 times are OK. His 40 time is not great but he's not going to be asked to run down field 40 yards but I know you know that.

 

[CyberB0b]

I respect the work and thought that was put into this, but other than the Le'Veon Bell pick, I'd be pretty PO'ed if the draft ended up this way for Dallas.

Also, I've heard that Bell may go in the late 2nd round now, so I doubt he'd be there in the 4th.

EDIT: If the board ended up this way, I'm taking Sylvester Williams all day.

Same thoughts here.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

If we're gonna reach, I'd rather reach for a guy that fits a bigger need or reach for a guy that is a better player. In fact, I think if we're reaching, we can likely find a guy that meets both criteria

 

[xwalker]

Not really. For a RG, his 10 and 20 times are OK. His 40 time is not great but he's not going to be asked to run down field 40 yards but I know you know that.

Beware NFLDS and CBS have some incorrect data this year.

Warford's ten yard time was terrible as well as his Short-Shuttle time.

Warfords measureables as reported immediately after the combine:
Pos OL
First Larry
Last Warford
College Kentucky
Height 6032
Weight 332
Arm 33.375
Hand 9.5
Forty 5.58
Forty (u) 5.53
Ten 1.92
Bench 28
Vert 22.5
Broad 8'5
3-Cone 7.78
SS 5.10

 

[honyock]

I respect the work and thought that was put into this, but other than the Le'Veon Bell pick, I'd be pretty PO'ed if the draft ended up this way for Dallas.

Also, I've heard that Bell may go in the late 2nd round now, so I doubt he'd be there in the 4th.

EDIT: If the board ended up this way, I'm taking Sylvester Williams all day.

Agree, if the draft breaks this way, I hope we'd take Sly Williams, and I'd bet that Kiffin and Marinelli value him.

I just don't think Warford is the best fit for us.

I'd be happy with Bell and Swearinger.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

If we're gonna reach, I'd rather reach for a guy that fits a bigger need or reach for a guy that is a better player. In fact, I think if we're reaching, we can likely find a guy that meets both criteria

I see your point, I don't see him as a reach though. I have Allen above sly on my board. Werner was a guy I toyed with taking there.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Nice work, Jr. Next time add some vids for us novices to see what you're talking about.

 

[Tezz]

If the Cowboys go for an offensive skill player early I think its going to be Tyler Eifert for some reason...

 

[Oh_Canada]

I don't hate the Allen pick and especially like the thought process, but Williams and Werner would be better choices there.

Not a big fan of Warford. I don't see a guy who has explosive strength and in the NFL you just don't overpower guys with sheer size as he did in college.

Jenkins just doesn't have enough junk in the trunk to be an effective end in the 4-3.

Didn't mind the other half.

 

[TheSport78]

If the Cowboys go for an offensive skill player early I think its going to be Tyler Eifert for some reason...

Ew, no.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

If the Cowboys go for an offensive skill player early I think its going to be Tyler Eifert for some reason...

I concur.

 

[Eskimo]

With that horrible 40, there is no way you take Allen in the mid first round. I'd argue you could get him in a trade down into the early to mid first round.

I would prefer us to trade down if Cooper and Tavon Austin are gone as there are no special players left. I would like to trade back into the mid-20s and hope to get Datone Jones, Werner or Carradine. I hope we could get an extra third rounder in the move. Another alternative would be to trade down into the late first with the hopes of getting a late second rounder. Maybe we could even swing one of those deals where we get a second rounder and a first rounder next year from one of the bottom 5 teams from this past years.

My biggest problem is that I see a huge mess of players with similar draft grades once you go a little below us. I also see there being a high risk of all the players we may be really interested in being gone by the time our pick is up. This puts us in a difficult position when we are on the clock. I think the better move is let someone else take one of the top players on the board who fits their needs/systems and let us pick up some extra picks in this deep draft.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

With that horrible 40, there is no way you take Allen in the mid first round. I'd argue you could get him in a trade down into the early to mid first round.

I would prefer us to trade down if Cooper and Tavon Austin are gone as there are no special players left. I would like to trade back into the mid-20s and hope to get Datone Jones, Werner or Carradine. I hope we could get an extra third rounder in the move. Another alternative would be to trade down into the late first with the hopes of getting a late second rounder. Maybe we could even swing one of those deals where we get a second rounder and a first rounder next year from one of the bottom 5 teams from this past years.

My biggest problem is that I see a huge mess of players with similar draft grades once you go a little below us. I also see there being a high risk of all the players we may be really interested in being gone by the time our pick is up. This puts us in a difficult position when we are on the clock. I think the better move is let someone else take one of the top players on the board who fits their needs/systems and let us pick up some extra picks in this deep draft.

I wouldn't be opposed to moving down in the draft if this scenario played out. I think it would be a tough deal for us to sell. There isn't much for other teams to want to move up for. But hey, Jerrah do your thing.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I wouldn't be opposed to moving down in the draft if this scenario played out. I think it would be a tough deal for us to sell. There isn't much for other teams to want to move up for. But hey, Jerrah do your thing.

Agreed, you can't really do a Mock and expect to have a trading partner in this situation. You have to deal with what you have and who might be there.


I think those who are putting a lot of stock into Allen's 40 times are probably devaluing his actual agility. Remember also that he has a knee injury. He's not a vertical speed guy but he is a guy who, on film, shows that he has agility. He is quick in and out of his cuts and he has excellent change of direction skills. He's a 6'2", 205 lbs. WR who has the agility of a 5'11" 190 lbs WR. He catches everything. This is the guy that when people made up the term, catching BBs in the Dark, they had in mind. This guy understands how to run Pro Routes. I mean, he did run 4.49 at the combine as his fast time. Mike was not any faster then that. Boldin is not fast, Carter was not fast, there are a lot of guys who played WR who were not burners but they were excellent route runners and understood how to play the position. I have a feeling, he's going to be undervalued because of the injury and somebody is going to draft an excellent WR lower then he should go. The only WR I would take before him is Austin.

I think he's going to be one heck of a good WR in the NFL. I would not feel badly about taking him at all if all of the impact OLs were gon and he was the guy there for us. I think he's going to be really, really good.

JMO

 

[Eskimo]

I wouldn't be opposed to moving down in the draft if this scenario played out. I think it would be a tough deal for us to sell. There isn't much for other teams to want to move up for. But hey, Jerrah do your thing.

We're right at the point where the true first round grades seem to run out. My guess is someone will have a slightly different board and see the last first rounder at a position of need and ask if they can trade up for him. This is especially true of some teams who have extra picks and deep rosters (Seattle, SF). We just have to keep an open mind and pursue any reasonable offers that seem to be advantageous to us.

Only time will tell what will happen. I happen to believe a slight trade up for Cooper is our best choice. If that fails I then think our next best move is to trade down.