Aaron Donald to visit Cowboys

[supercowboy8]

I would bet my paycheck Chicago takes Donald. He may go higher but he will not get past Chicago. There is no way I would trade up to get him either.

If he makes it to 14 he will make it to 16

 

[Hardline]

If he makes it to 14 he will make it to 16

The problem is,He most likely will not get past 14.

 

[BAT]

Really then who is that in denver? Potroast as aka Knighton plays that position. Not really a one gap shooting DT.

Knighton plays the 1tech primarily.

 

[supercowboy8]

Knighton plays the 1tech primarily.

Yep and the other DT is Sylvester williams who is not a donald type DT.

 

[supercowboy8]

The problem is,He most likely will not get past 14.

No if he makes it to 14 he gets past 14 to 16. Problem is making it to 14. I think NYG or ST. Louis will take him but not chicago.

 

[ColeBeasley11]

Donald or Barr better make it too 16 or we gotta trade down.....

 

[DFWJC]

Not a popular opinion, but it wouldn't cost that much to move from 16 to 11 with Tenn and insure we get Donald.

5 years from now we would have one of the best DT in the league (IMO) and the pick we traded will be long forgotten. It would be well worth it to me.

I'd never rule it out, but that is actually an expensive trade up.

It'd cost at least our 3rd rounder and maybe our 4th (we'd maybe get a 6th in return) ...or maybe a 3rd plus couple of those spare (and minimally valuable 7ths).
The 3rd round could be really loaded this year.

In any case, the odds of being able to trade exactly where you want are always fairly low; with 30 other teams out there plus the fact that the team you wish to trade with actually has to want to drop out that slot (and go exactly to our slot) in the 1st place.

 

[Hardline]

No if he makes it to 14 he gets past 14 to 16. Problem is making it to 14. I think NYG or ST. Louis will take him but not chicago.

I disagree. Chicago most likely will take him if he is on the board.

 

[supercowboy8]

I disagree. Chicago most likely will take him if he is on the board.

I disagree and I don't think they will.

 

[BAT]

Yep and the other DT is Sylvester williams who is not a donald type DT.

So are you saying that Denver would not use Donald to replace/upgrade the 3tech spot currently occupied by Sylvester Williams, if given that opportunity?

 

[supercowboy8]

So are you saying that Denver would not use Donald to replace/upgrade the 3tech spot currently occupied by Sylvester Williams, if given that opportunity?

Nope because donald shoots the gap with his speed and quickness. Gets up field. Williams was a 2nd round pick last year.
Denver system has the DTs use power to hold ground, read the play and react. This is why I have been saying Jernigan is a perfect fit for chicago new defense not donald. They try to have both take on double teams to free up the DEs and LBs.

 

[BAT]

Nope because donald shoots the gap with his speed and quickness. Gets up field. Williams was a 2nd round pick last year.
Denver system has the DTs use power to hold ground, read the play and react. This is why I have been saying Jernigan is a perfect fit for chicago new defense not donald. They try to have both take on double teams to free up the DEs and LBs.

I understand what you are saying but I am going to have to respectfully disagree. Jack Del Rio played with John Randle under Tony Dungy. And before that with Jimmy Johnson and the Dallas Cowboys. He is fully aware of how dominating and disruptive 3techs can be. Even Marvin Lewis, who Del Rio coached under at Baltimore and who loved using 2 big two gapping DTs, fully understands and embraces the disruptive (albeit sometimes undersized) 3tech dynamo(see Geno Atkins).

Just because Del Rio (and others) are scheme diverse, does not mean they pass on a once in a generation type player, because they were forced to use the resources at hand (2 bigger guys who fairly beat out all the other guys, smaller or faster notwithstanding). And FYI, Bears wanted to re-sign Melton, and not as a back up.

 

[supercowboy8]

I understand what you are saying but I am going to have to respectfully disagree. Jack Del Rio played with John Randle under Tony Dungy. And before that with Jimmy Johnson and the Dallas Cowboys. He is fully aware of how dominating and disruptive 3techs can be. Even Marvin Lewis, who Del Rio coached under at Baltimore and who loved using 2 big two gapping DTs, fully understands and embraces the disruptive (albeit sometimes undersized) 3tech dynamo(see Geno Atkins).

Just because Del Rio (and others) are scheme diverse, does not mean they pass on a once in a generation type player, because they were forced to use the resources at hand (2 bigger guys who fairly beat out all the other guys, smaller or faster notwithstanding). And FYI, Bears wanted to re-sign Melton, and not as a back up.

Agree to disagree then

 

[manster4ever]

Donald reminds me quite a bit of Russell Maryland. Size, motor, attitude and ability. Get him.

 

[jobberone]

Let the draft fall to you and maximize your picks while picking well.

 

[Nightman]

Not a popular opinion, but it wouldn't cost that much to move from 16 to 11 with Tenn and insure we get Donald.

5 years from now we would have one of the best DT in the league (IMO) and the pick we traded will be long forgotten. It would be well worth it to me.

I like the plan, but NOTHING around here is ever forgotten. Donald would have to be the next Randy White for some people to justify a trade up.