Aaron Murray; I really like him.

[Mookie]

Reminds me a lot of Brees/Romo. Watch his play;

I really love his presence, his arm, his accuracy and his energy. Look at him! Look at his numbers, look at his leadership, locker room chemistry, he is a well-liked, professional franchise-type quarterback. In a couple of years people will wonder why wasn't he selected in the first round. I see a great opportunity to draft him 3rd-4th, but I'm sure some team might even risk a 2nd for him, he shattered every number Brees ever posted, he is a winner, and a throwing machine. He is at least worth considering in my opinion. Couldn't be in a better more enviable position than to learn a system behind a proven guy like Romo and who knows, maybe he can be our Aaron Rodgers in the sense that he can sit behind Romo for several seasons. If by the second season he doesn't seem like a potential starter, well so you draft another kid.


I personally like him better than Johnny Football and the rest of the class, and he would cost a nickel.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I wouldn't mind Murray, Garrapolo or even as a late rounder Connor Shaw.....good mobility(fastest QB at combine, average arm, 24-1 TD to int in the SEC.

 

[gmoney112]

There's a button at the top called, "Draft Zone."

That's where Aaron Murray threads go.

 

[cowboy_ron]

I have him mocked for the 4th rd for us

 

[tm1119]

You gotta stop and think why a kid who started for several years at a major program in the SEC isn't a high draft pick. The answer is because he has a limited skill set. He's short, has average arm strength, and average foot speed. He really does nothing outstanding as a QB. He'll have a fine career as a backup and might even start somewhere for a few years, but he's nowhere near a franchise QB. So in other words he'd pretty much be a waste of a pick for us. This notion of "developing" a mid round QB in the modern NFL is pretty much non existent. Check the history of QB's taken in rounds 3-7 (not counting UDFA) in the past 10-15 years. There's only a handful of success stories

 

[Mookie]

I have him mocked for the 4th rd for us

In the 4th round, he would be a steal! I'd take that.

 

[Muhast]

You gotta stop and think why a kid who started for several years at a major program in the SEC isn't a high draft pick. The answer is because he has a limited skill set. He's short, has average arm strength, and average foot speed. He really does nothing outstanding as a QB. He'll have a fine career as a backup and might even start somewhere for a few years, but he's nowhere near a franchise QB. So in other words he'd pretty much be a waste of a pick for us. This notion of "developing" a mid round QB in the modern NFL is pretty much non existent. Check the history of QB's taken in rounds 3-7 (not counting UDFA) in the past 10-15 years. There's only a handful of success stories

He is actually a lot faster than you would think. Supposed to be a 4.5 guy. He had a 60+ yd td run against Tennessee this year. People thought he nay be a possible 1st round pick near the end of the season before he got hurt. He came out of high school as a dual threat qb. And uga coached him into developing as a pocket passer.

 

[cowboyschmps3]

In the 4th round, he would be a steal! I'd take that.

I'd take him in a heart beat! Or Shaw if Murray ain't there

 

[DuDa]

I think he'll go much higher than the 4th. The guy is too good to fall that far.

 

[Mookie]

You gotta stop and think why a kid who started for several years at a major program in the SEC isn't a high draft pick. The answer is because he has a limited skill set. He's short, has average arm strength, and average foot speed. He really does nothing outstanding as a QB. He'll have a fine career as a backup and might even start somewhere for a few years, but he's nowhere near a franchise QB. So in other words he'd pretty much be a waste of a pick for us. This notion of "developing" a mid round QB in the modern NFL is pretty much non existent. Check the history of QB's taken in rounds 3-7 (not counting UDFA) in the past 10-15 years. There's only a handful of success stories

Fair enough.

Negatives... Plays in the spread offense, taking the bulk of his snaps from the shotgun... Tends to side-arm his passes going deep...Lacks accuracy and touch on his long throws... Seems more comfortable in the short/intermediate passing attack...Does not possess the ideal height you look for in a pro passer, though his ability to scan the field helps him compensate in this area...Will improvise and run when the passing lanes are clogged, but tends to run through defenders rather than trying to avoid them to prevent unnecessary punishment.

...but I am not convinced that he will come anywhere close to matching his lofty collegiate figures at the pro level. If those three teams pass on him, he will still be on board when the second round opens.

Yes, Drew Brees.

Also:

GAZING INTO THE CRYSTAL BALL... Despite his "shortcoming" in the size department, Brees has put up impressive enough numbers to generate first round consideration. Pittsburtgh, Kansas City (if they don't pull off the Trent Green trade) or Miami could opt for Brees in the first round, but I am not convinced that he will come anywhere close to matching his lofty collegiate figures at the pro level. If those three teams pass on him, Brees will still be on board when the second round opens.

Murray put up even more impressive numbers than Brees. I don't trust Scouting Reports 100% on every player. Nobody does, and nobody should as a matter of fact. Murray's only problem is his injury, but an ACL these days is like a fever. Not a big deal if you ask me.

 

[WV Cowboy]

#86 has awesome speed in that video

 

[Wayne02]

I'd take him in a heart beat! Or Shaw if Murray ain't there

Shaw is more of a runner than a passer, I'd pass on him if he were there but I'd definately take Murray in the 4th.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Shaw is more of a runner than a passer, I'd pass on him if he were there but I'd definately take Murray in the 4th.

24 to 1 in the SEC is pretty good for a runner

 

[Future]

You gotta stop and think why a kid who started for several years at a major program in the SEC isn't a high draft pick. The answer is because he has a limited skill set. He's short, has average arm strength, and average foot speed. He really does nothing outstanding as a QB.

You could literally say all the same things about Brees.

I don't think Brees is all that he's cracked up to be, but he's a legit star in this league. No reason Murray couldn't be as well

 

[Wayne02]

24 to 1 in the SEC is pretty good for a runner

South Carolina didn't have to play Auburn, Alabama, or LSU this season, the toughest team they played in the SEC was Missouri which wasn't very strong in the secondary. Outside of a few teams at the top, the SEC is very overrated.

 

[Mookie]

You gotta stop and think why a kid who started for several years at a major program in the SEC isn't a high draft pick. The answer is because he has a limited skill set. He's short, has average arm strength, and average foot speed. He really does nothing outstanding as a QB. He'll have a fine career as a backup and might even start somewhere for a few years, but he's nowhere near a franchise QB. So in other words he'd pretty much be a waste of a pick for us. This notion of "developing" a mid round QB in the modern NFL is pretty much non existent. Check the history of QB's taken in rounds 3-7 (not counting UDFA) in the past 10-15 years. There's only a handful of success stories

2000 NFL Draft:

1st Round: Chad Pennington

6th Round: Marc Bulger
6th Round: Tom Brady

(I'll take the late rounder's before that first-round pick any day.)

2002 NFL Draft:

1st Round: David Carr
1st Round: Joey Harrington
1st Round: Patrick Ramsey


3rd Round: Josh McCown
4th Round: David Garrard

(Mid-rounders were obviously better here.)


2003:

1st Round: Byron Leftwich
1st Round: Kyle Boller
1st Round: Rex Grossman


Undrafted: Tony Romo


(Yes, even undrafted QB talents account to something in the NFL these days.)


2004:

Great First-Round class of QB's: Rivers, Manning, Roethlisberger. Schaub in the 3rd, so no arguments here.



2005:

1st Round: Alex Smith
1st Round: Aaron Rodgers
1st Round: Jason Campbell

4th Round: Kyle Orton
6th Round: Derek Anderson
7th Round: Matt Cassel.


So despite Rodgers and Smith being great ones, there was some late-round talent in this class that could have been developed.


2006:

1st Round: Vince Young
1st Round: Matt Leinart
1st Round: Jay Cutler

Apart from Cutler, overall a terrible class for quarterbacks.


2007:

1st Round: JaMarcus Russell
1st Round: Brady Quinn
Undrafted: Matt Moore

There's no such thing as a sure-bet when it comes to QB's in the NFL Draft, tm1119. The best career went to the undrafted talent in this case.


Sure, first-rounders are attractive and will sometimes be amazing players, but there's no saying as to who can actually pan out, and sometimes first-rounders will take you back several years. They can hurt a team more than they can benefit it. I'd rather try and get a mid-late rounder and see if he may be the guy, otherwise you can really hurt a team.

 

[tm1119]

2000 NFL Draft:

1st Round: Chad Pennington

6th Round: Marc Bulger
6th Round: Tom Brady

(I'll take the late rounder's before that first-round pick any day.)

2002 NFL Draft:

1st Round: David Carr
1st Round: Joey Harrington
1st Round: Patrick Ramsey


3rd Round: Josh McCown
4th Round: David Garrard

(Mid-rounders were obviously better here.)


2003:

1st Round: Byron Leftwich
1st Round: Kyle Boller
1st Round: Rex Grossman


Undrafted: Tony Romo


(Yes, even undrafted QB talents account to something in the NFL these days.)


2004:

Great First-Round class of QB's: Rivers, Manning, Roethlisberger. Schaub in the 3rd, so no arguments here.



2005:

1st Round: Alex Smith
1st Round: Aaron Rodgers
1st Round: Jason Campbell

4th Round: Kyle Orton
6th Round: Derek Anderson
7th Round: Matt Cassel.


So despite Rodgers and Smith being great ones, there was some late-round talent in this class that could have been developed.


2006:

1st Round: Vince Young
1st Round: Matt Leinart
1st Round: Jay Cutler

Apart from Cutler, overall a terrible class for quarterbacks.


2007:

1st Round: JaMarcus Russell
1st Round: Brady Quinn
Undrafted: Matt Moore

There's no such thing as a sure-bet when it comes to QB's in the NFL Draft, tm1119. The best career went to the undrafted talent in this case.


Sure, first-rounders are attractive and will sometimes be amazing players, but there's no saying as to who can actually pan out, and sometimes first-rounders will take you back several years. They can hurt a team more than they can benefit it. I'd rather try and get a mid-late rounder and see if he may be the guy, otherwise you can really hurt a team.

I don't get it, are you proving my point? Every QB drafted in the middle rounds you just listed is mediocre at best and never won anything. You can go back as far as 15 years and you'll only find a handful of QB's drafted outside the top 2 rounds who had prolonged and successful careers in the NFL. If you told me Murray was the the next Kyle Orton, Derek Anderson, ect I would gladly pass. Those types of guys get you no where

 

[joseephuss]

e.



2005:

1st Round: Alex Smith
1st Round: Aaron Rodgers
1st Round: Jason Campbell

4th Round: Kyle Orton
6th Round: Derek Anderson
7th Round: Matt Cassel.


So despite Rodgers and Smith being great ones, there was some late-round talent in this class that could have been developed.

Smith is a great one?

Is Connor Shaw a product of Steve Spurrier's system? The QBs who played for Spurrier in college have not fared well in the NFL.

 

[Mookie]

I don't get it, are you proving my point? Every QB drafted in the middle rounds you just listed is mediocre at best and never won anything. You can go back as far as 15 years and you'll only find a handful of QB's drafted outside the top 2 rounds who had prolonged and successful careers in the NFL. If you told me Murray was the the next Kyle Orton, Derek Anderson, ect I would gladly pass. Those types of guys get you no where

Brady, Bulger, Romo, those are all great QB's. What I'm saying is statistically speaking, not even 50% of the first rounders become successful, so why not try to score a Brees/Romo guy with Murray.

 

[tm1119]

Brady, Bulger, Romo, those are all great QB's. What I'm saying is statistically speaking, not even 50% of the first rounders become successful, so why not try to score a Brees/Romo guy with Murray.

Why don't you quit your job and play the lottery?

Ok, obviously hyperbole, but you get what I'm saying. It's most likely going to be a waste of a pick for a team that isn't in need of a QB and has a bunch of holes elsewhere. Especially in such a deep draft where a 4th round pick could be a contributor on D right away.

And Drew Brew was a high 2nd round pick by the way.

And give me a break with Mark Bugler and Tony Romo being great.