About time of possession

[GimmeTheBall!]

You are still rebuked!! Rebuked I say!!

Shut up or I turn the TV off.

 

[AsthmaField]

Even when one of these two team is really good and the other is really bad... these games always are close and come down to the last min.

Always.

Difficult to gain too much information from this one game.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

I hear you, but I completely disagree with trying to prove the larger point about controlling TOS with this one game. If we only convert one TD in the entire game it negates the advantage. This was just one game, its like saying Dez Bryant will finish the season with 16 catches for 128 yards because the trend from this game will continue.

I think Dez will have a good season . But I'm sick of feeling like this team can only win with Romo. This team needed this win without him just so they can believe. It's crazy to think they might be 1-14 if they don't beat the Commanders next week without Romo. I'm also not going to make the mistake I did last year and think everything's going to be fine when he's back.

Ugggghhh I have a bad taste in my mouth . Makes me sick the pats went up to Arizona and beat the cards with garopollo , Vikings beat ten with gee I don't even know who Shaun hill etc...

 

[Blackspider214]

The defense gave up 2.2 points per drive, which would've ranked 28th in the league last year (according to @percyhoward ). In all likelihood, the only reason they didn't give up more points was because the time of possession was so lopsided.

And the Giants not really trying to score on that final drive. If the Giants needed points, no doubt they get them there.

 

[Kaiser]

Even when one of these two team is really good and the other is really bad... these games always are close and come down to the last min.

Always.

Difficult to gain too much information from this one game.

You are only saying that because you got rebuked.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

No, the point is you wouldn't be here saying a word if our offense had finished the job behind the concept.

They didn't. And here you are.

Except for the inconvenient (for you) fact that i've been saying all offseason that the notion we grabbed Zeke to help the defense and crush opponents with TOP was nonsense. It was nonsense last season. And it was nonsense today.

 

[Alexander]

Except for the inconvenient (for you) fact that i've been saying all offseason that the notion we grabbed Zeke to help the defense and crush opponents with TOP was nonsense. It was nonsense last season. And it was nonsense today.

Once more, the point is scoring. If we had a quality head coach and offensive scheme, we would have scored more points.

THAT was the reason for wanting Elliott. To get a game changing back who could score more points.

The point of drafting him was not to play keep away. We supposedly have the biggest baddest OL on the planet, yet we can't make it work. That's not the idea, that is the implementation.

Sadly, our leadership can't figure that part out and featured of all players Witten and Beasley, those two scoring dynamos.

BTW, how did Ramsey help his team win today?

Oh yes, by completely bouncing off of Rodgers when we had a bead on him for a game changing sack.

 

[Dale]

Except for the inconvenient (for you) fact that i've been saying all offseason that the notion we grabbed Zeke to help the defense and crush opponents with TOP was nonsense. It was nonsense last season. And it was nonsense today.

I agree TOP alone is meaningless, but paired with an offense that can score points I do think it's a highly valuable thing. A high-scoring offense that can churn time off the clock, control the line of scrimmage, etc., can in many essences dictate the entire nature of a football game. And that's a powerful thing.

The two missing ingredients today was that our run game wasn't very good at all, and we didn't punch the ball into the end zone. And those are two fairly large ingredients LOL.

 

[Alexander]

I agree TOP alone is meaningless, but paired with an offense that can score points I do think it's a highly valuable thing. A high-scoring offense that can churn time off the clock, control the line of scrimmage, etc., can in many essences dictate the entire nature of a football game. And that's a powerful thing.

The two missing ingredients today was that our run game wasn't very good at all, and we didn't punch the ball into the end zone. And those are two fairly large ingredients LOL.

No, no, no.

If we had just drafted Jalen Ramsey, we would have won.

 

[Dale]

Once more, the point is scoring. If we had a quality head coach and offensive scheme, we would have scored more points.

THAT was the reason for wanting Elliott. To get a game changing back who could score more points.

The point of drafting him was not to play keep away. We supposedly have the biggest baddest OL on the planet, yet we can't make it work. That's not the idea, that is the implementation.

Sadly, our leadership can't figure that part out and featured of all players Witten and Beasley, those two scoring dynamos.

BTW, how did Ramsey help his team win today?

Oh yes, by completely bouncing off of Rodgers when we had a bead on him for a game changing sack.

Totally agree. I have to think the mindset behind drafting Zeke was to get back to what our offense was in 2014 -- and, in reality, take it a step or two further with what is perceived as a more talented back than Murray.

One game in, spending a first-round pick on Zeke looks silly. I still believe he's a good enough back to prove today was just a rookie learning the game.

 

[Kaiser]

The two missing ingredients today was that our run game wasn't very good at all, and we didn't punch the ball into the end zone. And those are two fairly large ingredients LOL.

The argument was never Time of Possession, it was effective Time of Possession. If you drive down the field and fumble at the 5 every time, you owned TOP but you weren't effective. But you would still see threads like this.

 

[wileedog]

I agree TOP alone is meaningless, but paired with an offense that can score points I do think it's a highly valuable thing.

Personally I think Parcells had the right of it. Build a killer defense first, then worry about an offense that can control the ball.

Because if the other team can score in a matter of minutes, than you holding the ball for 8 minutes at a time doesn't mean anything.

 

[Alexander]

Totally agree. I have to think the mindset behind drafting Zeke was to get back to what our offense was in 2014 -- and, in reality, take it a step or two further with what is perceived as a more talented back than Murray.

One game in, spending a first-round pick on Zeke looks silly. I still believe he's a good enough back to prove today was just a rookie learning the game.

Still is not going to matter if he is not put in a position to matter. That looked like our same old offense. Might as well have been Joe Randle wearing that jersey.

 

[wileedog]

No, no, no.

If we had just drafted Jalen Ramsey, we would have won.

Prove we wouldn't have. What the heck did Zeke do today that Morris couldn't have done?

 

[Dale]

No, no, no.

If we had just drafted Jalen Ramsey, we would have won.

If we can invest enough first-round picks in the secondary, it could turn whoever those defensive ends were that we started today into top-flight players (!!!).

 

[Alexander]

If we can invest enough first-round picks in the secondary, it could turn whoever those defensive ends were that we started today into top-flight players (!!!).

Yep. Don't you know that all great teams are built on the backs of corners?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Once more, the point is scoring. If we had a quality head coach and offensive scheme, we would have scored more points.

THAT was the reason for wanting Elliott. To get a game changing back who could score more points.

The point of drafting him was not to play keep away. We supposedly have the biggest baddest OL on the planet, yet we can't make it work. That's not the idea, that is the implementation.

Sadly, our leadership can't figure that part out and featured of all players Witten and Beasley, those two scoring dynamos.

BTW, how did Ramsey help his team win today?

Oh yes, by completely bouncing off of Rodgers when we had a bead on him for a game changing sack.

If you don't think the reason we drafted Zeke was to win TOP and help the defense...you didn't pay attention to the Jones, Garrett, mainstream media and nearly everyone who wanted Zeke to the Cowboys.

But feel free to try and pretend this never happened.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Totally agree. I have to think the mindset behind drafting Zeke was to get back to what our offense was in 2014 -- and, in reality, take it a step or two further with what is perceived as a more talented back than Murray.

One game in, spending a first-round pick on Zeke looks silly. I still believe he's a good enough back to prove today was just a rookie learning the game.

I mean this wasn't a great draft . Did you see Jalen Ramsey today ? Or did you want Bosa ( a lazy self entitled punk)? Another offensive lineman? There was no Von Miller type pass rusher in this draft . Zeke was the right call. Emmitts first game was like 2 carries for 6 yards. The problem with this offense is the playcalling in the redzone. Everything is underneath .

 

[Alexander]

Prove we wouldn't have. What the heck did Zeke do today that Morris couldn't have done?

What did Ramsey do today that Carr did not? One got a turnover. I will let you guess which one did.

 

[wileedog]

What did Ramsey do today that Carr did not? One got a turnover. I will let you guess which one did.

Ramsey played fine today, despite missing a sack on Rodgers which about 700 other NFL players can say has happened to them too.

Certainly better than 20 carries for 50 flippin yards behind this Oline. McFadden was face palming somewhere.