After draft party hangover, reality of our thin DE corps hits

_sturt_

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First, put my in the column with those who loved the draft, for the most part. People can argue any specific actual choice, but I'm mainly interested in whether there seemed to be good rationale used for making the choices they did. I like the gamble on Jaylon Smith mainly b/c he is such an elite talent and b/c, as others do, it makes sense to trust in our/his surgeon's inclinations.

But.

So, out of the gate we face NYG, WAS, CHI and SF, and at DE it sounds like we've got a flex-DT who just had surgery starting on one side of the D-line, and then our best option on the other side appears to be one of (a) an outside LB who coaches moved out of DE, (b) a newly-signed free agent who only registered 2 sacks and 23 tackles in 3 starts in 2 years in OAK, (c) a 4th round pick DE, a round of the draft which one writer noted has almost never yielded a rookie worthy of starting in Big D, and (d) a 5th round pick from last year who is coming off of IR.

Kept thinking there had to be... just had to be... some trade for a veteran DE in the works during the draft given the timing of Jerrah's announcement that Hardy and Mincey are definitely off the radar... but of course, we now know better.

So, sure, plenty of time to do something, but at the moment, hard to figure what that might be.

Thoughts immediately go to who might be a post June 1 cut candidate on another team, but several minutes of googling, on my part anyway, hasn't produced any ideas.

Interested in what others are seeing or have read that might shed some light.

Only thing I'm seeing at all is that MIA had been wanting Cameron Wake to take a pay cut for this last year of his contract, but he doesn't appear to be budging. He has little motivation to do so, since cutting him would leave them with a hole. Granted, given his injury last season (achilles), the team has already let it be known they're planning on playing him more as a situational pass rusher this season, so it's not as large a hole to fill. Monkey wrench could be a 1st rounder DE they drafted in 2013, Dion Jordan, who was out on a drug suspension this past year and reportedly the team would welcome back if he gets allowed back by the Goodell.

Would we maybe look to make a trade there? I don't see it. His contract is $9m+.

And even assuming Jordan came back, would MIA release Wake, or would it just mean that Wake caves to the pay cut they want him to take?

Is Wake even ideal? No, not ideal. Achilles injuries can slow athletes down. The guy is 34 already. He's been playing on the left side all his career. A lot of reasons not to pursue him even if he became available.

I'd just like to see us gain some veteran with some decent number of starts under his belt to add to the mix, and I figure I'm not alone.
 

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It's going to be tough with both starting DE suspended.

When I think about some of the guys on this defense it's sometimes hard to believe how bad we are though.

Dlaw
Byron Jones
King Crawford
Gregory
Thorton
Lee
McClain
Jaylon Smith

I mean wow I'm a Homer because I see alot of talent there. But we are too stupid or immature or injured to put it together.
 

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You are just hungover.

Tapper and Thornton can play DE so can Crawford/Irving, which replaces Hardy, DLaw and Gregory plus one. Then after the first four games of the year, we get two more fresh DEs.


Carrs' contract saved 4-5million, Dallas already had plenty of 2016 Cap Salary to sign our Rookies then sum. There is a move in Veteran Free Agency to come, just not sure who or where.
 
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I think you guys are forgetting the cowboys have said they are very confident Lawrence suspsoension will be overturned. We may only be down 1 de for the first 4 games.
 

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Well get a vet or two in the mix. Just got to wait for stuff to shake out. Rosters are big right now. Ton of guys will be on the street in a few months
 

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I think you guys are forgetting the cowboys have said they are very confident Lawrence suspsoension will be overturned. We may only be down 1 de for the first 4 games.

Source? Not doubting you but hadn't heard this.
 

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I'd sign Jason Jones and wait for the Lawrence and Gregory to complete their 4 game suspensions.

I think Jones & possibly Mincey become the obvious choices to bring in, both as potential starter(s) and as vet depth & leadership.
 

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You are just hungover.

Tapper and Thornton can play DE so can Crawford/Irving, which replaces Hardy, DLaw and Gregory plus one. Then after the first four games of the year, we get two more fresh DEs.


Carrs' contract saved 4-5million, Dallas already had plenty of 2016 Cap Salary to sign our Rookies then sum. There is a move in Veteran Free Agency to come, just not sure who or where.

Hard for me to get comfortable with plugging a 4th round pick in as a starter. I don't see that one.

I'd forgotten about Irving... that's a good point. And now that you mention it, I think I recall it being said that Thornton can flex.

Those help.
 

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It's going to be tough with both starting DE suspended.

When I think about some of the guys on this defense it's sometimes hard to believe how bad we are though.

Dlaw
Byron Jones
King Crawford
Gregory
Thorton
Lee
McClain
Jaylon Smith

I mean wow I'm a Homer because I see alot of talent there. But we are too stupid or immature or injured to put it together.

They aren't that bad.

They're simply very young.
 

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Don't forget that there will also be camp cuts. We'll be in a better position regarding Lawrence's suspension by then. If we need a vet, once should become available until Gregory's return.
 

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For the umpteenth time, there is no magical "June 1st" cut date any more when it comes to players actually being cut. Teams can cut players before June 1st and designate them as a June 1st cuts for cap reasons. This was changed because it was hurting veteran players chances of signing with another team.

The Cowboys currently (well after they sign their rookies) have 7 defensive ends on the team, not counting players who could play defensive end but are labeled as other positions. That said, the real way to add some depth would be to wait until pre-season cuts start happening as there will be some defensive ends available then that are in shape due to going through training camp with other teams.
 

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I'd sign Jason Jones and wait for the Lawrence and Gregory to complete their 4 game suspensions.

Yeah, we're going to just have to be patient in the first 4 games. I'm glad that the Cowboys didn't go DE in the first round because you don't need to make a long term decision for a short term problem.
 
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