Aikman would win multiple superbowls in this era of football on the Cowboys

RonnieT24 said:
Yeah but that's had more to do with the stupidity of the fans than their play. Emmitt was still a 1000 yard rusher well into his 30's and Troy didn't forget how to throw the ball in 2000. Go back and look at how he started 1999 before Mike got hurt. While I don't agree that Troy would have "won multiple Super Bowls" on these teams I don't think he would have fallen on his face either. Emmitt is the one who I think would absolutely feast in this modern era of football were half the guys on the defense are avoiding contact. But let's face it... if Emmitt played in this pass happy era he might only get 12-15 carries a game and we'd never know who he was..
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True dat. How many times did we hear an announcer during the game say something along the lines of "he just gets better, the more you feed him." Even in his mid-30s dude was asking for more carries. LOL. Today's league wouldn't know what to do with that.
 
No way to know.
Pure speculation, not grounded on anything concrete.

I would say no way on the "multiple" part, though.

Troy never won without a completely dominant defense and the best oline in football
He would do well though.
The offense is pretty loaded
 
RonnieT24 said:
People forget that Troy was VERY mobile and athletic when he came into the league. But the beating he took while the offensive line was getting things figured out took most of that away. By year 4 or 5 his knees and back were in shambles.
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I took that into consideration. But all young QBs move better, mostly because they are forced to since they can't read defenses and react as fast. Aikman, like Emmitt, gets unfair rap that it was all the offensive line. People forget it was mostly that SAME O-Line when Aikman was a rookie. Tuey, Big Nate, Gogan, Step, etc... Big E and Larry Allen later in the dynasty were the only serious additions, and they just replaced losses. Sounds cliche, but it's a team game, they just all grew together. That's why it's so hard to compare players in eras besides the obvious size differences and rules changes. And I think that's the beauty of football. No two teams are the same.
 
plasticman said:
Aikman wouldn't tolerate the lack of commitment present on every level of this organization from GM down.

In 1994 Aikman complained to Jerry Jones that Switzer's practices lacked intensity.

In this era of football, Aikman would have bolted from the Cowboys the first chance he got.

Troy Aikman had a singular goal. He wanted to win as many championships as possible for the team he was playing for during the length of his career. Period.

That goal is entirely incompatible with the 21st century version of the Dallas Cowboys.
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Correct!
Troy was a Jimmy guy.
Not a Jerry guy.
 
RonnieT24 said:
That was not because they lacked talent. It was because back in those days the pro game was WAY more different from the college game than it is now. The modern NFL has embraced the full time shotgun, the pistol and the air raid concepts in the passing game. What that has done has made the transition from college to pro much easier for QBs than it was in the past. Not that's easy.. but it's the easiest it has ever been because many pro teams are basically using the college playbook and just adding onto it.
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Interesting perspective and I see what you are saying, not sure if I agree but good points. The NFL has been making the rules much more offense friendly for some time, and think that is a factor as well.
 
Yeah, I could definitely see it on the '07, '14 and '16 teams.
 
CowboysFever1973 said:
2000s. 2010s. 2020s. It doesn’t matter which decade we’re talking about. Aikman goes on a dynasty run in any decade. He had the intangibles any good leader has. He is a true general and would have embarrassed Mahomes!!!!

Put him in his prime in any decade with the teams we had and you get the same results. Dynasty!
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Agreed
 
Chuck 54 said:
Ridiculous to think Aikman or any other QB would win a SB the past 30 years. He won 3 with a team that had the triplets, all HOFers. He had the Great Wall of offensive linemen. He had Doomsday 2. He struggled mightily as a young QB. He struggled mightily after Irvin was gone, and then Emmitt. Aikman is a well deserved Hall of Fame QB, but one man doesn’t win a SB. The Cowboys wouldn’t be a contender this season even with Aikman in his prime. Be realistic.
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Honestly I want to believe the other narrative, but ultimately I think this take is spot on.

Ruminating on this topic, I was going to say that the right QB is the absolute key, i.e. Brady, Mahomes. Look at Belichek or Andy before/after them.

But it's actually a lot more complex than that. I think of Stafford for instance. Nothing he could do could have made the Lions a contender, but traded to McVay.... perennial SB contenders with or without Donald.
 
plymkr said:
I truly don’t understand the hate Aikman gets on this site. It’s weird. 3 time Super Bowl champion, first ballot HOFer and a great leader on the field and an exceptional representative off the field. What exactly are some fans looking for?

No Aikman no rings.

The drought would be 40 or so years, maybe fifty. Some fans act like he’s a blemish on the Cowboy brand.
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Aikman could have won with the 2014 or 2016 rosters. Maybe the 2021-2023 teams as well.

With the roster in its current format? Not a chance.
 
I don't hate the player. Hate is too strong a word. Loved the player. I'm disgruntled about the person and broadcaster he can be at times. Seems like he's a sour guy.
 
VaqueroTD said:
I took that into consideration. But all young QBs move better, mostly because they are forced to since they can't read defenses and react as fast. Aikman, like Emmitt, gets unfair rap that it was all the offensive line. People forget it was mostly that SAME O-Line when Aikman was a rookie. Tuey, Big Nate, Gogan, Step, etc... Big E and Larry Allen later in the dynasty were the only serious additions, and they just replaced losses. Sounds cliche, but it's a team game, they just all grew together. That's why it's so hard to compare players in eras besides the obvious size differences and rules changes. And I think that's the beauty of football. No two teams are the same.
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Emmitt doesn’t get near the credit he deserves from people even Dallas fans. No back did much of anything behind that line before 22 or when he missed time. They were not all-pro offensive linemen until they had 22 running behind them.
 
CowboysFever1973 said:
2000s. 2010s. 2020s. It doesn’t matter which decade we’re talking about. Aikman goes on a dynasty run in any decade. He had the intangibles any good leader has. He is a true general and would have embarrassed Mahomes!!!!

Put him in his prime in any decade with the teams we had and you get the same results. Dynasty!
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Love Aikman and he was an amazing QB, but with Jerry
plymkr said:
I truly don’t understand the hate Aikman gets on this site. It’s weird. 3 time Super Bowl champion, first ballot HOFer and a great leader on the field and an exceptional representative off the field. What exactly are some fans looking for?

No Aikman no rings.

The drought would be 40 or so years, maybe fifty. Some fans act like he’s a blemish on the Cowboy brand.
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I'm curious what Jerry built defense you would pair with Aikman to win these championships, since the defense has been our Achilles heel in the playoffs the past 30 seasons.

Aikman was an incredible HOF QB with incredible accuracy and a great leader. However, all his championships were won with a dynasty roster Jimmy built, not Jerry.
 
RonnieT24 said:
Brady was responsible for the "Can't Touch This" rules after the 2008 season when a defender took out his knee. Were it not for all the added protections for him and other pampered QBs Brady would have probably been done in 2012 or 2013.
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Yeah, but he wasn’t, so my point stands
 
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