Al Michaels?

[KJJ]

It's when fans don't like what they're reading that causes threads to go 20+ pages. :laugh2: Start a thread where everyone agrees and it will fall off page 1 in no time. Rarely do I ever weigh in on topics like this but when someone calls out Al Michaels as a Cowboys hater I'm going to give my opinion. I can understand calling out Keyshawn, Faulk and some of the other yappers but calling out Michaels as a Cowboys hater shows how ridiculous some FANS are.

 

[jazzcat22]

Al Michaels is a baseball guy first and foremost. He's an L.A. Dodgers fan.

He's not a fan of any particular NFL team, nor is he a hater.

Not so sure...I grew up listening to him broadcast the Cincinnati Reds for years, with the Big Red Machine....heard him make a comment once, they are still in his blood so to speak...

 

[Ratmatt]

Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth aren't there to be Cowboy homers.You should turn the tv volume down and listen to Brad Sham and Babe Laufenburg on the radio.

 

[CowboyChris]

i'll second Michaels and Collinsworth as the best duo in broadcasting, ive never thought Michaels was a hater. on the other hand im not very fond of Aikman when he does our games.

 

[J-DOG]

I can count on one hand the media people who picked the Cowboys.

Norm Hitzges and Corby Davidson on The Ticket picked the Cowboys...everyone else on that station picked the Giants.

All the guys on the Cowboys Break show picked the Giants.

Don't listen to the ESPN Dallas station...bunch of lazy back-stabbers on that station. For years they have made a living kicking the Cowboys while they are down.

 

[Mr_Bill]

SB XXX was broadcast on NBC with Dick Enberg, Phil Simms and Paul Maguire. Many fans know that Paul Maguire played for the Bills and of course he hated the Cowboys for beating his Bills in the SB in 92 and 93. Many Cowboy FANS were prepared for him to rip the Cowboys during the SB XXX telecast but I felt he kept his comments under control and fair. Naturally knowing he's a Cowboys hater had some FANS reading his comments differently. When a FAN knows someone doesn't like the Cowboys they're going to read what they want into every comment they make.

Knowing Phil Simms was a former NY Giant who battled the Cowboys for years had some Cowboy FANS reading negativity into every comment he made about the team but again he was fair. If a FAN assumes someone hates the Cowboys which Simms may have they're automatically going to read negativity into a lot of what they say about the team. Nothing is going to change the mindset of some FANS.

Thank you for correcting me on the network and updating me on the announcers.

Enberg was always a good announcer. Simms is not the best, but he is better than most. As for Maguire, I always enjoyed his humor. I do not really care that any of them had an anti-Cowboys background.

I did not object to what they were reporting in that game, just the fact that it was so Steelers-centric; that is focused on what the Steelers were doing or not doing with little mention from a Cowboys perspective, until, as I noted, the Cowboys had put the game in the bag. In other words, it was not, 'Emmitt Smith made a great cutback there,' but rather, 'Greg Lloyd was faked out of his jock on that play.'

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

My argument is that Al Michaels is an excellent broadcaster and most who've commented agree. I characterize FANS here and so do they. They ridicule fans like me claiming we're haters. They claim the same thing about some of the most respected in the media what does that say about them? If Walter Cronkite was alive today and said something negative about the Cowboys some FAN here would start a thread calling him a tool.

What's obvious from some of the responses is there's fans who agree with my sentiments not only about Michaels but about the FANS who keep running to the ZONE to start these cry threads everytime someone in the media says anything critical about the team. I could care less what a few FANS think of me and my opinions when they don't think very highly of even the most respected broadcasters in the media.

You obviously do not know what the true scotsman argument is but at least you freely admit to your hypocrisy.

I don't see the Michael criticism myself nor what people claim about Aikman but I do see what those you claim to be 'homers' say about you.

Making up stuff and claiming it to be true is also fun. Let me try making up crap so I can pigeonhole everyone who happens to disagree with me into one group so I can discount all dissenters.

If Enrico Fermi were alive today and were to say that Collinsworth was too critical the same people would come on here and defend him and then act the martyr maligned by legions of delusional dissenters.

If Tupac were alive and read stuff like yours, he would say you are a dummie.

If Teddy Roosevelt were alive today he would hate all mouthbreathers too.

Wow that was fun. Now maybe if I say it a whole bunch of times it will become true too!

 

[KJJ]

You obviously do not know what the true scotsman argument is but at least you freely admit to your hypocrisy.

I don't see the Michael criticism myself nor what people claim about Aikman but I do see what those you claim to be 'homers' say about you.

Making up stuff and claiming it to be true is also fun. Let me try making up crap so I can pigeonhole everyone who happens to disagree with me into one group so I can discount all dissenters.

If Enrico Fermi were alive today and were to say that Collinsworth was too critical the same people would come on here and defend him and then act the martyr maligned by legions of delusional dissenters.

If Tupac were alive and read stuff like yours, he would say you are a dummie.

If Teddy Roosevelt were alive today he would hate all mouthbreathers too.

Wow that was fun. Now maybe if I say it a whole bunch of times it will become true too!

 

[Hostile]

You obviously do not know what the true scotsman argument is but at least you freely admit to your hypocrisy.

I don't see the Michael criticism myself nor what people claim about Aikman but I do see what those you claim to be 'homers' say about you.

Making up stuff and claiming it to be true is also fun. Let me try making up crap so I can pigeonhole everyone who happens to disagree with me into one group so I can discount all dissenters.

If Enrico Fermi were alive today and were to say that Collinsworth was too critical the same people would come on here and defend him and then act the martyr maligned by legions of delusional dissenters.

If Tupac were alive and read stuff like yours, he would say you are a dummie.

If Teddy Roosevelt were alive today he would hate all mouthbreathers too.

Wow that was fun. Now maybe if I say it a whole bunch of times it will become true too!​

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[StanleySpadowski]

Just press the moot button

 

[KJJ]

I don't make up stuff claiming it to be true. Most of my opinions are supported by facts. I claimed Al Michaels is one of the greatest sports broadcasters ever and he's ranked 4th all time by the source below. Brent Musburger who someone claimed took shots at the Cowboys every chance he got is ranked 3rd all time on that list. I also claimed no fan base in the NFL has more delusional FANS than the Cowboys and they're ranked #1 most delusional amongst NFL teams according to two different sources.

Not one FAN who's claimed Michaels hates the Cowboys has posted video evidence where he's making a derogatory comment about the team. If he hates the Cowboys do a google search and provide some evidence. All we're getting here are the opinion's of a few biased FANS who construe every critical comment made about the Cowboys as hate. They do the same thing with fans here and many others who talk football for a living. We've had FANS make claims about Michaels that have been proven wrong with links that contain facts.

If you're going to start a thread making a claim that a broadcaster is making negative comments about the Cowboys on a Nationally televised broadcast then let's see the video evidence so we can hear for ourselves. It was claimed that it seemed like every remark made by Al Michaels about the Cowboys during the Giants/Cowboys game ended with a negative remark. If he made that many negative remarks about the Cowboys it should be easy to find at least one piece of video evidence proving it. Nuff said!

http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ys-top50announcers013009

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4692849/are-dallas-cowboys-fans-delusional

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...boys-raiders-tebow-fans-rated-most-delusional

 

[cowboys2233]

I don't make up stuff claiming it to be true. Most of my opinions are supported by facts. I claimed Al Michaels is one of the greatest sports broadcasters ever and he's ranked 4th all time by the source below. Brent Musburger who someone claimed took shots at the Cowboys every chance he got is ranked 3rd all time on that list. I also claimed no fan base in the NFL has more delusional FANS than the Cowboys and they're ranked #1 most delusional amongst NFL teams according to two different sources.

While I don't disagree with you regarding whether or not Michaels takes unfair shots at the Cowboys, having two sources rank these guys highly does not make these facts. But no, Al Michaels does not treat the Cowboys unfairly, IMO. But he was absolutely brutal to the refs, unfairly and embarrassingly so, both on Wednesday and Sunday night. I almost had to turn the clown off because it was getting so old and tired.

Overall, I think Collinsworth is pretty astute and balanced in his commentary.

 

[KJJ]

While I don't disagree with you regarding whether or not Michaels takes unfair shots at the Cowboys, having two sources rank these guys highly does not make these facts. But no, Al Michaels does not treat the Cowboys unfairly, IMO. But he was absolutely brutal to the refs, unfairly and embarrassingly so, both on Wednesday and Sunday night. I almost had to turn the clown off because it was getting so old and tired.

Overall, I think Collinsworth is pretty astute and balanced in his commentary.

I could have provided more sources but I shouldn't even have to provide a source to prove the respect Michaels and Musburger have in the broadcasting business. As for Michaels being brutal to the refs he wasn't the only one taking shots at them if you watched the games on Sunday.

These are "replacement" refs who haven't earned anyones respect. They've made some glaring mistakes that have to be pointed out and they've even had trouble spotting the ball correctly. I have no issue with broadcasters pointing out the mistakes these refs make.

 

[cowboys2233]

I could have provided more sources but I shouldn't even have to provide a source to prove the respect Michaels and Musburger have in the broadcasting business. As for Michaels being brutal to the refs he wasn't the only one taking shots at them if you watched the games on Sunday.

These are "replacement" refs who haven't earned anyones respect. They've made some glaring mistakes that have to be pointed out and they've even had trouble spotting the ball correctly. I have no issue with broadcasters pointing out the mistakes these refs make.

Fair enough, but one could also say that Chris Berman is highly regarded in the business. One could say that...but it wouldn't be me. I think he is a total *** clown. I guess the refs have made a few mistakes but my takeaway from the games that I watched is that they threw fewer flags then the regular refs. Despite a few gaffes, I thought the games flowed better because of it. But that's a prime complaint of mine, I think the refs should swallow their whistles across the board, NFL, NBA, you name it. I think a little fighting between receiver and defensive back is a good thing, for example. A little contact when a guy is driving the lane should be acceptable, etc.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

I could have provided more sources but I shouldn't even have to provide a source to prove the respect Michaels and Musburger have in the broadcasting business. As for Michaels being brutal to the refs he wasn't the only one taking shots at them if you watched the games on Sunday.

These are "replacement" refs who haven't earned anyones respect. They've made some glaring mistakes that have to be pointed out and they've even had trouble spotting the ball correctly. I have no issue with broadcasters pointing out the mistakes these refs make.

Just because someone is respected does not mean that they don't have flaws. I said that Musburger was highly respected and to this day he does a fine job on college football for ABC. My point is that he couldn't stand the Cowboys. That didn't take away from his ability to do his job. It justs made him come across as the Cowboy hater that he was. We can agree to disagree. Just remember that your opinion isn't any better than anybody else's. So try dropping the superior attitude. We can all have much more fruitful discussion without it.

 

[KJJ]

Fair enough, but one could also say that Chris Berman is highly regarded in the business. One could say that...but it wouldn't be me. I think he is a total *** clown. I guess the refs have made a few mistakes but my takeaway from the games that I watched is that they threw fewer flags then the regular refs. Despite a few gaffes, I thought the games flowed better because of it. But that's a prime complaint of mine, I think the refs should swallow their whistles across the board, NFL, NBA, you name it. I think a little fighting between receiver and defensive back is a good thing, for example. A little contact when a guy is driving the lane should be acceptable, etc.

One could say Chris Berman is highly regarded in the business but they would have a tough time proving it. If you do a google of the worst announcers his name keeps popping up. The source below has him ranked second worst in a top 50 list. A lot of fans are tired of Berman's schtick. I have posts on this board claiming he's one of the worst announcers and that was before I ever researched it. His golf announcing is beyond HORRIBLE! I don't know how he ever got the gig at ESPN he doesn't have the face or voice for television. As for the refs naturally because they're replacement officials every call they make is going to be heavily scrutinized. It seems like the players and coaches are jawing with them a little more trying to work them.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/Turn-it-off-The-50-worst-announcers-in-sports-?urn=top,137612

 

[KJJ]

Just because someone is respected does not mean that they don't have flaws. I said that Musburger was highly respected and to this day he does a fine job on college football for ABC. My point is that he couldn't stand the Cowboys. That didn't take away from his ability to do his job. It justs made him come across as the Cowboy hater that he was. We can agree to disagree. Just remember that your opinion isn't any better than anybody else's. So try dropping the superior attitude. We can all have much more fruitful discussion without it.

You're "claiming" Musburger couldn't stand the Cowboys it would be nice if you could provide some proof that he couldn't. Google can be your friend and a great supporter for claims so use it. YouTube has millions of video's to provide evidence. All you're doing is giving your take on comments made by Musburger. Anyone can make a comment that can be taken the wrong way. A lot of people are guilty of reading things into comments that aren't there.

I don't post claims that I can't provide at least some proof to back them. I'm not coming off with a superior attitude that's your interpretation. You're welcome to interpret comments from me, Brent Musburger or anyone else the way you want to fit whatever line of thinking you have but that doesn't mean you're correct.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

You're "claiming" Musburger couldn't stand the Cowboys it would be nice if you could provide some proof that he couldn't. Google can be your friend and a great supporter for claims so use it. YouTube has millions of video's to provide evidence. All you're doing is giving your take on comments made by Musburger. Anyone can make a comment that can be taken the wrong way. A lot of people are guilty of reading things into comments that aren't there.

I don't post claims that I can't provide at least some proof to back them. I'm not coming off with a superior attitude that's your interpretation. You're welcome to interpret comments from me, Brent Musburger or anyone else the way you want to fit whatever line of thinking you have but that doesn't mean you're correct.

Apply that last statement to yourself and it's all good. Some of us don't have time to Google and YouTube. That doesn't make what we say any less valid, especially since your sources were so weak. Yeah that's my opinion too.

 

[Hostile]

I think he can push this for 2 more pages. :laugh2:

 

[KJJ]

Apply that last statement to yourself and it's all good. Some of us don't have time to Google and YouTube. That doesn't make what we say any less valid, especially since your sources were so weak. Yeah that's my opinion too.

I have sources that support my line of thinking and you don't. I could provide even more sources just let me know what you need more verification on. Weak is when someone has only their opinion to stand on. It doesn't take much time to Google and Youtube information if the claims that are being made are factual. If Musburger or Michaels are Cowboys haters or were viewed by others as Cowboys haters it would take you less time to Google the proof than the time it took you to contribute to this thread.

I'm not calling you a liar I'm just saying that in all the years I watched the NFL Today I never got the impression Musburger was a Cowboys hater. He may very well be but there's no evidence of it at least none that I can find.