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who clearly has lost a step.Its definitely not going to break this team.Romo does have more pressure but in the huddle less.This guy would be so beligerent in a huddle,at least the QB can throw where he wants to.I dont know the more I think about this Im cool with it,not that my opinion matters.lol.
 

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juckie;2674816 said:
who clearly has lost a step.Its definitely not going to break this team.Romo does have more pressure but in the huddle less.This guy would be so beligerent in a huddle,at least the QB can throw where he wants to.I dont know the more I think about this Im cool with it,not that my opinion matters.lol.
He has not clearly lost a step, and you have never been in the huddle to know anything.

If the QB wasn't already throwing where he wants to, .. whose fault is that?

Age aside, we lost the best WR on the team.

If we don't replace that production, our offense will suffer and our season will be long.
 

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WV Cowboy;2674847 said:
He has not clearly lost a step, and you have never been in the huddle to know anything.

If the QB wasn't already throwing where he wants to, .. whose fault is that?

Age aside, we lost the best WR on the team.

If we don't replace that production, our offense will suffer and our season will be long.

Ever think he was the best cause we threw to him the most?Miles could have a 1000 yard season just as easy if we throw to him that much,same with RW11,witten,etc....
 

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Did you see that game where he actually crossed the field and caught up to Miles Austin (the speedster) and gave him a block that freed him up to score?

Or the Green Bay game when Romo threw and INT in the endzone to Nick Collins? Owens was knocked down inside the 5yard line, but got back up and was able to catch up and tackle Collins.

Yeah...he's lost a step. So now he's only 1-2 steps ahead of the WRs we have on the roster now.
 

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WV Cowboy;2674847 said:
He has not clearly lost a step, and you have never been in the huddle to know anything.

If the QB wasn't already throwing where he wants to, .. whose fault is that?

Age aside, we lost the best WR on the team.

If we don't replace that production, our offense will suffer and our season will be long.

Please don't slit your wrists over this, T.O. ain't worth it! This is the first opportunity in awhile that this team actually has a chance to be cohesive. I'd gladly sacrifice T.O.'s meaningless stats for this chance that the team can be a TEAM again. How many playoff games did we win with T.O.? His stats/"production" were shallow!;)
 

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Some little factoids...

TO was 8th best in the NFL among pass targets. He delivered Top 25 caliber stats with all those targets.

Out of the Top 25 WRs in targets, only TO and Braylon "Hands of Stone" Edwards had a lower than 50% success rate with their targets. I know the knee jerk reaction will be to throw Tony 91+ QB Rating Romo under the bus to explain it, but most of the other 23 WRs out of that 25 putting up 50+% success rates had a lot worse QBs throwing them the ball. I'm sure TJ Housmandzadeh would haved loved to trade places with TO as he was putting up a 67% success rate with Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Here's a newsflash ... if Vince Carter goes 10 of 31 shooting from the field, he didn't have a great night even if it says he scored 24 points.
 

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EPL0c0;2674862 said:
Did you see that game where he actually crossed the field and caught up to Miles Austin (the speedster) and gave him a block that freed him up to score?

Or the Green Bay game when Romo threw and INT in the endzone to Nick Collins? Owens was knocked down inside the 5yard line, but got back up and was able to catch up and tackle Collins.

Yeah...he's lost a step. So now he's only 1-2 steps ahead of the WRs we have on the roster now.
Dude he has no lateral quickness anymore,he cannot get seperation.Thats obvious.TO was GREAT at one point,he peaked in Philly.Mother Nature always wins.Maybe he can go run in the Olympics,hes good at 100 yard dashes.Football is more then chasing someone down.One lateral step is huge.
 

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WV Cowboy;2674847 said:
He has not clearly lost a step, and you have never been in the huddle to know anything.

If the QB wasn't already throwing where he wants to, .. whose fault is that?

Age aside, we lost the best WR on the team.

If we don't replace that production, our offense will suffer and our season will be long.

Dude. He can still play at a high level, but TO clearly had lost a step. And the QB had accuracy problems at the end of the year last year, but he was throwing where the plays were designed to go.

Replacing 69 catches and 15.2 avg with Roy Williams and Myles Austin isn't going to be that big a deal. It's the 10 TDs that are going to be tough to replace.
 

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InmanRoshi;2674871 said:
Some little factoids...

TO was 8th best in the NFL among pass targets. He delivered Top 25 caliber stats with all those targets.

Out of the Top 25 WRs in targets, only TO and Braylon "Hands of Stone" Edwards had a lower than 50% success rate. I know the knee jerk reaction will be to throw Tony 91+ QB Rating Romo under the bus to explain it, but most of the other 23 WRs out of that 25 putting up 50+% success rates had a lot worse QBs throwing them the ball. I'm sure TJ Housmandzadeh would haved loved to trade places with TO as he was putting up a 67% success rate with Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Here's a newsflash ... if Vince Carter goes 10 of 31 shooting from the field, he didn't have a great night even if it says he scored 24 points.


Just think what Romo's numbers would be if one of TO's strengths was catching the ball.
 

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I know this.I just watched a team win the SB with maybe the worst WRs in the league.Football is too big too worry about one dude,especially a 36 year old wr.
 

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Arch Stanton;2674880 said:
Just think what Romo's numbers would be if one of TO's strengths was catching the ball.
:laugh1: That and ran correct routes and finished them out.
 

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While I can see why it was done, and I've said all along that I wasn't worried one way or another rather he was here or not, it's the nature of the sport, I will say that the more I think about it the more sad I am about it.

I mean I'm not upset, or hate the move, or anything it just makes me sad cause I did enjoy watching him play here.
 

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Tho I have concerns about the move, I can see why Jerry did it. Ultimately, Jerry considered T.O. a progress stopper. I remembered that term from some long ago article somebody posted about Parcells.

Lifting this from a blog seems to solidify that thought in my mind

On whether this decision was based on Owens’ behavior and outspokenness.
Jones: There are a lot of reasons why you sign a player or you release or trade a player. You take age as a consideration, where you are with your entire roster, you take into consideration, especially at a position such as wide receiver, do you want to give others more of an opportunity to develop. In this particular case, we have an outstanding player in Roy Williams and it was a significant factor in the decision that I made to release Terrell.

We’ve got some other top receivers that we want to involve, we got some backs that we want to involve in the passing game, we’ve got some tight ends that we to involve in the passing game. So at the end of the day, you can’t have it all. I look at this more of a strategic move relative to personnel for the Dallas Cowboys than I do that there’s something wrong with Terrell Owens. That’s not the case.


On whether Owens’ behavior had anything to do with his release.

Jones: I think that’s the easy place to go because of his personality and because of the visibility, but that’s too easy. If it would have been that easy, that would have been a decision that I would have made 60 or 90 days ago. That is just not a part of why I ultimately made the decision.

This team has some young wide receivers coming up. It's not just about Roy or Crayton. It's about being able to give Hurd, Austin, and Stanback a chance to grow.

At least that's how I see it.
 

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Arch Stanton;2674880 said:
Just think what Romo's numbers would be if one of TO's strengths was catching the ball.

Or get separation from a DB or run the right route or any number of factors that lead to an incomplete pass.

Oh I forgot, Garrett is supposed to call magic routes to get TO open because it's too hard for him to do it all by himself.
 

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InmanRoshi;2674871 said:
Some little factoids...

TO was 8th best in the NFL among pass targets. He delivered Top 25 caliber stats with all those targets.

Out of the Top 25 WRs in targets, only TO and Braylon "Hands of Stone" Edwards had a lower than 50% success rate with their targets. I know the knee jerk reaction will be to throw Tony 91+ QB Rating Romo under the bus to explain it, but most of the other 23 WRs out of that 25 putting up 50+% success rates had a lot worse QBs throwing them the ball. I'm sure TJ Housmandzadeh would haved loved to trade places with TO as he was putting up a 67% success rate with Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Here's a newsflash ... if Vince Carter goes 10 of 31 shooting from the field, he didn't have a great night even if it says he scored 24 points.


Interesting stats. I wonder how much TO's target stat % had to do w/ Tony feeling the need to force the ball to him?
 

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Good points!

Also, I would say this give's Romo a chance to develop as a QB. Now that T.O. doesn't command 2 defenders, Romo will have to do what elite QB's do and actually find an open target rather than throwing to a receiver he feels can outrun the defense.
 

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No team in the history of football has ever been devastated by the loss of a 35-year-old wide receiver... But I guess we'll be the first. :rolleyes:
 

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InmanRoshi;2674909 said:
Oh I forgot, Garrett is supposed to call magic routes to get TO open because it's too hard for him to do it all by himself.

Or not run the same routes game after game after game . . . then afterwards have opposing D's and commentators state how simple the Dallas O is to gameplan. I'm sure that's TO fault.

This move places all the focus and pressure on Garrett. He will have to get creative on O, because outside of Witten, there's no one proven as a threat at receiver.

And I am including RW. He ran bad routes, and showed no ability to get open. Either he was lying about injuries, or Dallas was swindled royally in the trade.

Next season will all be on Garrett - he'll need to prove he's up to the task to be a successful OC.
 
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