All Personal T.O. bias aside...

[Chuck 54]

Clearly, many of the fans on this site, myself included, cannot stand T.O., what he stands for, or the way he conducts himself. Most of us think his stats are fairly empty and he's not the player he used to be, not because of coaching but because he's slipping over-the-hill. On this side of the aisle, we have those who dearly hope T.O. will not be in a Cowboys uniform next season.

On the other side of the aisle, we have those who believe T.O. is indeed still a top receiver in this league, that other defenses actually double team him, and that his TD total and 1000 yards prove he's the best receiver on our team and in the league, and that most of what he says is actually accurate and that he should be listened to.

I don't see either side changing its tune or opinion...clearly, T.O.'s complaints, the spitting incident, and his league leading TD total prove that everyone is deeply entrenched...next season will be determined in the offseason, and while I for one see no way in the world JJ will bring TO back no matter how this season ends, I know I'll never convince any of TO's fans.

Bottom Line: We need T.O. this season...we need TO to get the ball and play big in order for this team to do anything in the postseason...we are not capable of winning a single game without his involvement...even I recognize that.

It's the design of this team...anyone who thinks Crayton or Hurd or Miles Austin are capable of replacing T.O. is just insane...Hurd may have a slight chance someday of being a #2 receiver, but he has a lot of work to do since he can't even get any playing time as the #3. Crayton is what he is...an average #3 guy benefitting sometimes from playing with Glenn, TO, and Witten...a guy who still can't get the job done on a consistent basis.

Yes, we need our defense to step up...we need some changes in the front 7 to win a playoff game, and we need Roy, injured or not, to play like Roy...he needs to show up, whether he gives up something in coverage or not, and we need Zimmer/Parcells to find a clue to get the most out of these guys.

But the bottom line is still that we need the offense to score points, hold the ball, and give the defense some hope and fire. We desperately need Glenn, T.O., Witten, Crayton, and Romo to play big in the postseason...if these guys are together and playing well, it will make the job of the OL easier, and we'll see some running opportunities for our very average RB's (sorry...I let an opinion slip in).

Maybe we won't need him next year if we gather some WR's in the offseason through the draft and Free Agency, but right now, even I, one of the biggest haters of T.O., recognize how much we need him if we are to have any chance of winning a playoff game.

 

[HTownCowboysFan]

It's sad state of affairs when I'm more excited for March 1st and the day TO is released than the damn playoffs.

But yeah, point taken.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

What we need is an owens that will make clutch plays.
We don't need an owens who drops clutch passes.

The later is the reason we can finaly get rid of the dirt bag.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Sad thing is, IMO, if T.O. would have just kept his big mouth shut, did not bring negative attention on himself or given the media reason to bash him, Just go out and do his job then none of this would be a problem.

Seriously.

He has put up good numbers, his drops would not be as big of an issue to me if he would not complain about getting the ball more (when I recently saw a stat that shows he has actually been thrown to more times so far this year than his first year with the eagles).

I remember not wanting Keyshawn to be a cowboy, but he came and did his job and for the most part did not make waves or bring attention to himself.

If TO would have came in here, did his job, did not bring attention to himself I would be OK with him right now. But that was not the case. What is even worse that the ESPN agenda, which TO brings on himself, is those that go out of their way to defend his actions.

If the man would just shut the heck up and do his job it would be a different story, but Nooo Mr Media Meglomaniac has to keep running his yap.

Once again in case someone missed it....According to a segment I saw this morning, TO has been thrown to MORE TIMES so far this year, than his first year with the Eagles. Yet he is complaining he needs the ball more.

I tell you this if I was a QB and I seen TO streaking down the sidelines or someone like Jason Witten or Terry Glenn...I am throwing it to Terry or Jason because I would have more faith that they would catch the ball. Kind of hard to trust someone who has sacrificed a few scores and big plays because he has a case of the drops.

 

[HTownCowboysFan]

Sad thing is, IMO, if T.O. would have just kept his big mouth shut, did not bring negative attention on himself or given the media reason to bash him, Just go out and do his job then none of this would be a problem.

Amen to that! Good take. Of course sir, you are a "hater."

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Amen to that! Good take. Of course sir, you are a "hater."

I think it is my excess gas that makes me a hater.:laugh2:

 

[Doomsday101]

As much as I dislike him I don't cheer against him. I want to see him make big plays and do well in the games. When he makes a play I cheer and when he messes up I don't boo him I know some who may not believe that but it is true. I will comment the following day at this site. My passion for the Cowboys is greater than my dislike for TO

 

[superpunk]

He has put up good numbers, his drops would not be as big of an issue to me if he would not complain about getting the ball more (when I recently saw a stat that shows he has actually been thrown to more times so far this year than his first year with the eagles).

It's not the number drops for me - it's the timing. If you look for antonyms of "clutch", there will undoubtedly be a picture of TO next to it.

 

[MissionCoach]

if sTOne Hands would just learn to keep his BIG Mouth SHUT, and stop giving ESPN enough material for a lifetime series...all else could be forgiven!!!

 

[Bleu Star]

All haters be sure to check into this thread.

We have, yet another one going.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

It's not the number drops for me - it's the timing. If you look for antonyms of "clutch", there will undoubtedly be a picture of TO next to it.

Yes I think that is a big part of it as well.

Drop on the Fourth Down play to keep us from getting back in the game.

A few drops that would have been easy TD scores (do people realize that not only has he been thrown to more so far this year than in his first year in Philly, but if he would not have had a few drops he would have more TDs than that first year in philly, as of now he is only two behind that pace).

One other thing of note.

He has, it seems, not been as dynamic with his YAC as he has been in the past.

There have been times this year where he has made some nice YAC, but just not on a consistent basis.

I read people talking about he is a WCO WR and should have never been brought in because of that so blame JJ. BS, he should have never been brought in because of his mouth and other issues, but a WR with his past talent would and should be able to thrive in any Offense. And once again he is putting up good numbers, and would have even better numbers if he would not drop the balls in crucial situations.

 

[dricas24]

LOL What has TO been saying thats getting under peoples skin so much...

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

All haters be sure to check into this thread.

We have, yet another one going.

Go away Kim.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

All haters be sure to check into this thread.

We have, yet another one going.

The only hater on this thread is you with your hate filled sig pic.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

The only hater on this thread is you with your hate filled sig pic.

:laugh2: He sure is quick to throw out that hater label and pic when it comes to TO...blames everyone but TO.

But must be different when it comes to old Squiggy. :laugh2:

 

[superpunk]

The only hater on this thread is you with your hate filled sig pic.

Tool is constructive criticism.

Not hate.

 

[Hostile]

The only hater on this thread is you with your hate filled sig pic.

Ouch. Man, that's going to leave a mark.

 

[superpunk]

A few drops that would have been easy TD scores (do people realize that not only has he been thrown to more so far this year than in his first year in Philly, but if he would not have had a few drops he would have more TDs than that first year in philly, as of now he is only two behind that pace).

And I was so looking forward to Parcells in tights.

He has, it seems, not been as dynamic with his YAC as he has been in the past.

That's definitely true. He still runs it out hard, but it also seems that draws a crowd quickly. He's either less dynamic than he was (entirely possible, given his age), or we just aren't getting the ball to him at the right time.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Yes I think that is a big part of it as well.

Drop on the Fourth Down play to keep us from getting back in the game.

A few drops that would have been easy TD scores (do people realize that not only has he been thrown to more so far this year than in his first year in Philly, but if he would not have had a few drops he would have more TDs than that first year in philly, as of now he is only two behind that pace).

One other thing of note.

He has, it seems, not been as dynamic with his YAC as he has been in the past.

There have been times this year where he has made some nice YAC, but just not on a consistent basis.

I read people talking about he is a WCO WR and should have never been brought in because of that so blame JJ. BS, he should have never been brought in because of his mouth and other issues, but a WR with his past talent would and should be able to thrive in any Offense. And once again he is putting up good numbers, and would have even better numbers if he would not drop the balls in crucial situations.

Preach on brother BP

 

[MichaelWinicki]

TO won't ever stay quiet. He is what he is. You're going to get the bad with the good.