All ratings were down except one

[goshan]

The Chargers have several tickets available for this week's game, and they play in a tiny 30,000 seat stadium.

But revenue is climbing for the league well above expected growth rate? Are traditional measures like tv ratings and stadium attendance becoming less important or lower priority? Seems likely to me.

 

[Fizziksman]

The NFL isn't making money because of Roger Goodell....... he is just the guy who happens to be there to collect the checks... he pales in comparison to Paul Tagilabue...... they don't need any more reasons to fire him over the last couple years

Goodell has always been good about screwing over the NFLPA which is why the owners like him.

 

[sideon]

Name one good game? It's not even about Kaepernick it's just the NFL is bad right now.

 

[bulkyboy22]

The NFL is committing suicide with all the SJW stuff and targeting their own stars for punishment

The NBA would never go after Lebron or Steph Curry...... they protect them

MLB is regional but it is the same game it has been for 100 years.....besides a well run replay system

The NFL has bogged down the game with penalties and commercials.....those are huge problems.....like player conduct they look for ways to take big plays OFF the board with replay.....there is no spontaneity

The NFL loaded the deck with good matchups and TNF was down 13%, Fox down 28% Fox National down 12%, CBS down 10%, SNF up 5% with Dallas and Zeke, MNF down 12% and 7% from low ratings last year............ ESPN is hemorrhaging viewers with anchors like Jemele Hill and cord cutters....... they are down 10m households in the last 5years

The NFL is not indestructible and the fans will and have been leaving... look at NASCAR and WWE and that is whats coming

 

[DandyDon1722]

Streaming doesn't come close to making up the losses.......demand is way down for many many reasons

It's not "way down." It's about 8% and let's make sure we define "demand" and "interest" and I'm approaching this from an analytics standpoint.

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/7/27/...national-anthem-protests-jd-power-survey-2017

Yes, many things contributed to last year's ratings and I also agree with your premise on Goodell. But interest in the NFL is still off the charts. Last year's Cowboys/Commanders Thanksgiving game was the highest rated game on the Fox network ever.

If you want to say viewership is down it is, and all clues point to a combination of things, most prominently fantasy football and the Red Zone They have effectively killed the three-hour broadcast. Add to that an archaic Neilson rating system and the lack of accounting for other ways to view and you get a false narrative.

In 2017 Fantasy Football will be a 7 Billion dollar industry with 60 million people playing it - up 27% from 2015. Those numbers don't lie.

Last year Twitter had 243,000 people watching a Thursday Night game at any one time and while it may not make a dent in network viewings it is definitely part of that 8% number.

Demand is not down in football nor is interest. Network television viewing has slipped because viewing habits have changed and elements within the game distract viewers and will probably continue to do so. I watched last weeks game on my laptop streamed from my cable company -

Not one single entity accounted for that because there are no metrics to do so.

 

[ConstantReboot]

If Zeke doesn't serve his suspension this year, I think you can almost guarantee that the calls are going to go against us in the playoffs. The last thing the NFL wants is a scenario where Goodell is handing a Super Bowl MVP trophy to a player that hasn't served his suspension for a domestic violence incident.

Screw Goddell. Zeke is innocent of any wrong doing regarding domestic violence. Therefore, he has no rights of suspending Zeke in the first place. This is nothing more than an elaborate witch hunt.

 

[Risen Star]

I can't help but wonder how many of those 24 million people thought Joey Ivie was still on the team.

 

[Nightman]

It's not "way down." It's about 8% and let's make sure we define "demand" and "interest" and I'm approaching this from an analytics standpoint.

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/7/27/...national-anthem-protests-jd-power-survey-2017

Yes, many things contributed to last year's ratings and I also agree with your premise on Goodell. But interest in the NFL is still off the charts. Last year's Cowboys/Commanders Thanksgiving game was the highest rated game on the Fox network ever.

If you want to say viewership is down it is, and all clues point to a combination of things, most prominently fantasy football and the Red Zone They have effectively killed the three-hour broadcast. Add to that an archaic Neilson rating system and the lack of accounting for other ways to view and you get a false narrative.

In 2017 Fantasy Football will be a 7 Billion dollar industry with 60 million people playing it - up 27% from 2015. Those numbers don't lie.

Last year Twitter had 243,000 people watching a Thursday Night game at any one time and while it may not make a dent in network viewings it is definitely part of that 8% number.

Demand is not down in football nor is interest. Network television viewing has slipped because viewing habits have changed and elements within the game distract viewers and will probably continue to do so. I watched last weeks game on my laptop streamed from my cable company -

Not one single entity accounted for that because there are no metrics to do so.

It is down from this year and down from last year.......it is real

All that peripheral stuff is not the same as TV ratings...... that is what drives the TV deals and that is the bulk of the NFL's revenues...... Fantasy football and Red Zone are fads and I would know .....people are losing interest in those too......big time

Everything is cyclical ......look at the golf boom, poker tourneys, NASCAR, the Kardashians

NFL has big reasons to be worried and that is why they added 2 LA teams and a Vegas team

 

[bigbob]

FOX game.

So the only Way we get Romo is if the game is on CBS.

 

[bigbob]

So the only Way we get Romo is if the game is on CBS.

Only 2 games on CBS KC and SD .
Those 2 are the only one's that might
Have Romo.

 

[bigbob]

If Fox had hired Tony that would have been better for us fans.
I live in Dallas area so mostly get NFC east game's, or other NFC game's.

 

[VACowboy]

So the only Way we get Romo is if the game is on CBS.

Yep. And that only happens when we play an AFC team in Dallas.

 

[Everson24]

NFL, can we please not get any nearly unheard of or extremely hard to justify or describe calls against us this year?

We'll continue to hold up our end of the bargain and give you excellent ratings either way. Which you obviously know.

This is another thing that must drive the Jones' family crazy. The Cowboys bring in the best ratings and the most revenue, but then the dirty NFL bites the hand that feeds them. We got flexed to the night game at least twice last season and every year we have to play 3 games in 12 days and then we get all this unfair officiating against us. This has to stop.

 

[SDCowboy]

But revenue is climbing for the league well above expected growth rate? Are traditional measures like tv ratings and stadium attendance becoming less important or lower priority? Seems likely to me.

The TV ratings reasons have already been covered, but Stadium attendance is certainly also becoming an outdated measure. The home experience has gotten so good, I can't think of a reason to go to the games. I've been to a couple of games, and football is just so much better on TV than in person.

 

[DogFace]

This is another thing that must drive the Jones' family crazy. The Cowboys bring in the best ratings and the most revenue, but then the dirty NFL bites the hand that feeds them. We got flexed to the night game at least twice last season and every year we have to play 3 games in 12 days and then we get all this unfair officiating against us. This has to stop.

Doubt it will and you made all the points why. It doesn't matter win lose or draw the Cowboys generate tons of money.

There is a bias among refs just as there is in the general population.

The best scheduling bs was when we played the night game at New York before Thanksgiving.

 

[DogFace]

The TV ratings reasons have already been covered, but Stadium attendance is certainly also becoming an outdated measure. The home experience has gotten so good, I can't think of a reason to go to the games. I've been to a couple of games, and football is just so much better on TV than in person.

But you miss out on 10$ beers. They are soooo good!!!

 

[superonyx]

Revenue focus versus ratings focus. Ratings are becoming less meaningful. Don't think you are smarter than the highly paid people who model all this.

Rating focus equals revenue focus. The money Directv pays the NFL pales in comparison to the money advertisers pay which leads to bigger tv contracts. If they start to believe that the directv money is dragging down ratings which leads to smaller tv contracts and less revenue then they will listen.
Watch them scramble when ratings continue to drop.

Don't assume I am not as smart as the people who they pay to model this. You don't know me or my profession.

 

[SDCowboy]

But you miss out on 10$ beers. They are soooo good!!!

Along with $40 parking, tons of noise and people, not being able to tell what the hell is happening on the field. Just so many compromises.

No joke, I'm honestly surprised any teams still sell out their games.

 

[Philmonroe]

Sorry, still waiting for my TV guide in the mail.....hasn't arrived yet for some reason!

Get on google gramps lol

 

[RomoFor6]

SNF had more viewers than game 6 of the 2016 NBA finals when Lebron beat Golden State, arguably one of the most exciting games in NBA history. NFL will always be king.