Amari Cooper's drops

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Anyone want to get back to the topic at hand? Theres many many many other places to talk about Jerry
 
QuincyCarterEra said:
Did some background info on the drops that had plagued Cooper while in Oakland.

According to sportscharta.com
In 2016 of players with at least 30 catches, 22 players had drop rates of 6.2% or higher. Of those 22, 4 of them were Raiders.
Jalen Richard- 10.3% with 3 drops
Clive Walford- 7.7% with 4 drops
Seth Roberts- 6.5% with 5 drops
Michael Crabtree- 6.2% with 9 drops(most in the league)

Amari was at 2.3% with 3 drops

In 2015 here's another breakdown

Amari- 7.7% with 10 drops(most in the league)
Seth Roberts- 7.3% with 4 drops
Andre Holmes- 9.1% with 3 drops
Crabtree- 5.5% with 8 drops

Sportingcharts doesnt have 2017 dropped stats up, but according to PFF the Raiders in 2017 were YET AGAIN amongst the worst in the league, tied for 2nd with 38 dropped passes.

Drops are overblown, because of ocourse around here everything is overblown, but players can still excel despite dropping passes at a constant rate. Look at players like TO, Dem Thomas, and Odell. This is meant to be a resource for those that like to see the whole picture before making blanket statements and saying a player that has made 2 pro bowls in 3 years as "trash".
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Doesn't matter, the WR's are exempt from drop blame.
 
plymkr said:
I am so pissed about this move. I hope Jerry Jones never wins a game in his life for this stupidity.

If I'm wrong about this move please enlighten cuz I think this is one of the worst trades in Jerry Jones' reign of over reaching.

Please cheer me up.
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Terrell Owens had the drops most of his career and became a Hall of Famer. Does that help?
 
plymkr said:
I am so pissed about this move. I hope Jerry Jones never wins a game in his life for this stupidity.

If I'm wrong about this move please enlighten cuz I think this is one of the worst trades in Jerry Jones' reign of over reaching.

Please cheer me up.
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Just so I understand. Jerry makes a move you disagree with and you don't want this team to win a game?

Please explain the logic behind this.
 
QuincyCarterEra said:
Drops are overblown, because of ocourse around here everything is overblown, but players can still excel despite dropping passes at a constant rate. Look at players like TO, Dem Thomas, and Odell. This is meant to be a resource for those that like to see the whole picture before making blanket statements and saying a player that has made 2 pro bowls in 3 years as "trash".
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Sure, but he hasn't produced this year or last year, either. When you combine that with the drops problem, it makes you wonder why anyone would give up a 1st for him.
 
CyberB0b said:
Sure, but he hasn't produced this year or last year, either. When you combine that with the drops problem, it makes you wonder why anyone would give up a 1st for him.
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1. They watched the tape and he's a good player
2. Blue chip prospect coming in
3. Histocially great production at his young age
4. No off field issues
5. Has played in 93% of games
6. Just now 24 years old
7. Plays the position we are weakest at
8. Perfect complement to Dak as he gets easy seperation

I wouldnt have given a 1st, but there's a lot to like
 
darthseinfeld said:
Cooper is far from trash. I think most peoples issue is the price. Personally I think he is a good amd potentially very good WR, but I dont know if I see him as a true #1 WR
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I think he has the tools to do it but if you are going to give up a 1 you had better have more then just potential.
 
plymkr said:
I am so pissed about this move. I hope Jerry Jones never wins a game in his life for this stupidity.

If I'm wrong about this move please enlighten cuz I think this is one of the worst trades in Jerry Jones' reign of over reaching.

Please cheer me up.
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it won't be me today my friend. This might be the worst of the worst things that could have happened to our fanbase.
 
plymkr said:
I am so pissed about this move. I hope Jerry Jones never wins a game in his life for this stupidity.

If I'm wrong about this move please enlighten cuz I think this is one of the worst trades in Jerry Jones' reign of over reaching.

There is nothing anybody can say that will make this move ok.
Not only did they over pay by 2 rounds in terms of draft pick but essentially committed to him long term.
It's a disgrace.
Its pathetic
Its embarrassing.

I've checked out .......

Please cheer me up.
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plymkr said:
I am so pissed about this move. I hope Jerry Jones never wins a game in his life for this stupidity.

If I'm wrong about this move please enlighten cuz I think this is one of the worst trades in Jerry Jones' reign of over reaching.

Please cheer me up.
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Cooper is just 24 years old despite being drafted in 2015.

Calvin Ridley is 6 months younger than Cooper, and he was drafted in 2018.
 
QuincyCarterEra said:
1. They watched the tape and he's a good player
2. Blue chip prospect coming in
3. Histocially great production at his young age
4. No off field issues
5. Has played in 93% of games
6. Just now 24 years old
7. Plays the position we are weakest at
8. Perfect complement to Dak as he gets easy seperation

I wouldnt have given a 1st, but there's a lot to like
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Not for a first round pick there isn't. The player isn't the issue here. If we gave up a 3rd everyone would be happy. Plus, historically great production at a young age doesn't mean anything when he's done very little the past 2 years as a primary target. He's not a blue chip prospect anymore, hasn't been in a couple years
 
TimHortons said:
Not for a first round pick there isn't. The player isn't the issue here. If we gave up a 3rd everyone would be happy. Plus, historically great production at a young age doesn't mean anything when he's done very little the past 2 years as a primary target. He's not a blue chip prospect anymore, hasn't been in a couple years
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Not true. People just dont seem to understand that performance and stats dont always go hand in hand.

And saying "doesnt mean anything" is just silly.

Yes he's still a blue chip lol
 
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