Amazing analysis of Tony's unfortunate pick-6, from NFL Films

[BrassCowboy]

i think its alittle deeper than that, but your on the right track;
the players havent gotten ticked off yet on defense yet

till a few defenders say enough is enough, i am getting tired of getting beat at llast seconds; thats it;

that to a degree goes back also to the head coach, how is he the head coach on being fiery, not liking getting beat on his defense

when your defensive coordinator says, i think our pass rush is fine, we just need to hit the qb some more, come on.

that says alot right there

and when the defensive coordinator says, some of our players dont understand my defensive concepts, packages yet, come on, your going to stand there and say that as a head coach and defensive coordinator that you havent got them ready yet?

what did you do all off season mini camp, OTAs, and training camp wade?

oh yeah, i didnt run the packages as much as i should have due to the fact i didnt want to get players hurt, when you blitz you tend to get players hurt

now does that sound like a fiery defensive coordinator that is suppose to be the head coach, and does that sound like he is lighting a fire underneath the defensive players?

yet let me ask you this question?
on offense how many points have we scored, even against the very good giants defense over 30 points right?
how have our special teams done, pretty good right
so lets add that up
our offensive coordinator has improved his offense right
the special teams coach has improved the special teams right?
yet what is the defensive coordinator doing?

dead on !!

 

[jwhardin]

It looked to me, that if Romo would have thrown a better pass it wouls have been completed. Crayton had space between him and Johnson. To me, Tony just underthrew the ball.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

It's really sickening to see an undrafted rookie making those kind of adjustments and reads. Dude isn't even supposed to play but gets an opportunity because of a myriad of injuries and is already at least somewhat prepared. I haven't seen ANY resemblance of smart, heads up play on our defense over the past 3-4? years, only amazingly athletic plays. Even against divisional opponents where we're supposed to know them better than they know themselves. Testament to the coaching I guess?

Honestly I wouldn't care if Bradie James was a far superior athlete to Antonio Pierce (He's not really) I'd take the smarter guy to be the MLB of the defense. It's not like this **** is rocket science, but our defense has got to be one of the dumbest looking defenses in the league. There's no pre-snap adjustments ever made really, not really many disguised blitzes like Pittsburghs (people here have complained about this numerous times in the past). I personally have been waiting to see the defense get "smarter" and I figured the reason it wasn't there early on was because the guys were too young. It still ain't here and the defense looks just as vanilla as it did when Ware was a rookie. Actually it's gotten worse. The secondary now are seriously making potential blooper clips every other play and running into each other or just completely taking themselves out of the play.

We've had amazing athletes on this defense for the past 4 years that are doing nothing but trying to make athletic plays. Coaching and/or a field general is something the defense really has never had. I want to see this defense make an EASY play for once because it completely mind-****ed the opposition, not just ridiculously amazing athletic play like Ware's INT on Vick that you'll see maybe once a career.

Also, no quarrels at all with our offense, it has made opposing defenses look foolish many MANY times. The offense has been quality, still waiting on the defense to get to that level though despite having all of our draft picks.

This is a great point and it is exactly in line with what I have been thinking about our defense...


Here's what impressed me most about that video...

The Giants rookie CB said he LISTENED to what the Giant coaches told him all week about what was happening when the WR tried to run that inside route in that situation. By listening to his coaches, a rookie FA db, in only his second game understood the game situation and made a huge play that helped win a game for the Giants.

Contrast that with Scandrick basically admitting he wasn't prepared for the game and that he needed to listen to Campo and Wade and that he was humbled by the game. Another example of a db not playing the proper technique was shown in the video that pointed out on the last drive Jenkins failed to play proper technique and allowed the inside route when we were blitzing.

So that begs the question, is it the coaches or the players? The way I see it, it's both. It seems as if the players on defense don't fear and/or respect our defensive coaches enough to listen to them and learn what they are supposed to do and some of our defensive players are either too cocky or simply don't care enough to put the time into their preparation and listen and learn from the coaches so they can become a decent defense.

 

[WV Cowboy]

If Romo puts more air under that ball and hits Crayton closer to the sideline it is a completion, .. no matter what Pierce, the rookie FA, or any Giants defender does.

 

[Jake0]

If that was our defense on the field defending Romo, it's a completion the way he threw it because no one would have been within 5 yards of Crayton.

Yeah let's expect Romo to make the PERFECT pass every 3rd down else he gets chastized. How about we be the defense that gets an easy pick because we FORCED the opposing QB to make a PERFECT THROW or he gets picked. Get the **** outa here with this Romo hate. Romo's carried this team on his back for the past 2 years and he's got an aching back right now because of it. Matter of fact the reason that ball didn't have more air under it was because of his back problem from carrying this team.

 

[CoCo]

If Romo puts more air under that ball and hits Crayton closer to the sideline it is a completion, .. no matter what Pierce, the rookie FA, or any Giants defender does.

That's what I saw as well. Its just a flat out bad throw. Came out of his hand funny. That is what Collinsworth saw as well.

I'm going to watch it again this weekend but that DB seemed to be in no-mans land and grabbed the errant throw.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

If that was our defense on the field defending Romo, it's a completion the way he threw it because no one would have been within 5 yards of Crayton.

Yeah let's expect Romo to make the PERFECT pass every 3rd down else he gets chastized. How about we be the defense that gets an easy pick because we FORCED the opposing QB to make a PERFECT THROW or he gets picked. Get the **** outa here with this Romo hate. Romo's carried this team on his back for the past 2 years and he's got an aching back right now because of it. Matter of fact the reason that ball didn't have more air under it was because of his back problem from carrying this team.

That's funny. As a matter of fact, it's also true.

 

[newlander]

Are his hands small? If you think about it, he has totally errant throws every few games: like the ball slips out of his hand. NOT excusing him...just saying.....

 

[WV Cowboy]

I'm going to watch it again this weekend but that DB seemed to be in no-mans land and grabbed the errant throw.

I had just finished watching the break-down of that pass on NFL Films when I posted that, and they were essentially saying how the DB baited Romo and then made this great play.

I disagree, that DB was just in the right place at the right time, and if the pass had been a little different pass it would have been a completion.

To his credit though,he was looking into the backfield and saw where the ball was and stopped and made a nice play.

But it's not like they tricked Romo or anything, the pass was just a little flat.

 

[quaigs]

I had just finished watching the break-down of that pass on NFL Films when I posted that, and they were essentially saying how the DB baited Romo and then made this great play.

I disagree, that DB was just in the right place at the right time, and if the pass had been a little different pass it would have been a completion.

To his credit though,he was looking into the backfield and saw where the ball was and stopped and made a nice play.

But it's not like they tricked Romo or anything, the pass was just a little flat.

Your exactly right, from Johnson's interview I posted here, he said he was in the mist of going to another receiver, and the ball came right too him in no mans land. Bad throw by Romo and Johnson got lucky. He goes on to say that Romo audibled to a play that would have toasted them, so Pierce audibled to cover 2 just to change up thier play. Therefore anyone who thinks the Giants figured out the Cowboys on this play is wrong. If anything it was the other way around.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162991

 

[CoCo]

I had just finished watching the break-down of that pass on NFL Films when I posted that, and they were essentially saying how the DB baited Romo and then made this great play.

I disagree, that DB was just in the right place at the right time, and if the pass had been a little different pass it would have been a completion.

To his credit though,he was looking into the backfield and saw where the ball was and stopped and made a nice play.

But it's not like they tricked Romo or anything, the pass was just a little flat.

I didn't see the breakdown as you did but it sounds like the Giants DC & the DB deserve credit for anticpating an opportunity. As I recall, the DB never really got near enough to Crayton to be a factor if the ball is thrown properly.

They look like geniuses (apparently) because they were ready when the ball came to them, but in the end it was an unforced error by Romo.

Here's how bad the throw was, if you watch Roy, he can't decide if the throw is to him or to Crayton. And honestly I'm not sure either. But Crayton, IMO, was actually pretty open while a throw to Roy would've been contested, as slants often are.

I don't know if the ball slipped, Romo tried to change targets in process, but that was one ugly throw.

 

[Kalyan]

oh, sorry, I didn't realize that since we score 30 points, we as fans can't look at what still needs to be imporved. Our passing game was bad in Giants game, so I am just looking at why it is bad. But since we score 30 points, nothing to look right?

They are, thats why we've "only" scored 65 pts and ran up "only" 840 yds of offense through two games.

Imagine if we had a really innovative guy like Tony Sparano running the show, then we could really confuse teams and have run up an amazing 30 pts and no passing game to speak of the first two games of the season.

Clearly every team in the league has us figured out.

 

[cowboyjoe]

This is a great point and it is exactly in line with what I have been thinking about our defense...


So that begs the question, is it the coaches or the players? The way I see it, it's both. It seems as if the players on defense don't fear and/or respect our defensive coaches enough to listen to them and learn what they are supposed to do and some of our defensive players are either too cocky or simply don't care enough to put the time into their preparation and listen and learn from the coaches so they can become a decent defense.

now you have hit the nail on the head dead on;
the players dont fear or respect the head coach to listen and pay attention;

no big deal, i still will get my money, no big deal wade says we dont have to worry about sacks or interecptions, just hit the qb some more

even head coach is laid back and i am afraid the players are taking approach he is laid back, no big deal, everything is under control we will do better

oh yeah when? after you lay an egg in december again? Quit the talking, and play, there are no more fingers to point the blame at or no more excuses
its on the players and coaches;

evidently the players are listening some to the offense and special teams coaches, but the defense, its like they could care less;

and the coaches on defense have a laid back attitude too, that rubs off on the players, When a head coach that has been hired by the owner because of his defensive coordinators expertise, as a defense guru, he admits that he didnt run enough in practices and training camps on defensive concepts, that sends a signal to the players right there.

it is both and both are to blame

you cant tell me that a vet like newman and hamlin, played like they did and got lost on defense, adn they dont know where to go on defense concepts;

that doesnt wash, those players have been under wade the last 3 years;
sounds to me like coaching and the coaches arent demanding enough of themselves and the players

like i said, the players have to either fear the head coach like players feared jimmy johnson or they have to respect him, players on this team to me have no fear of wade or respect of wade

 

[jrcowboys]

Guys:

I know you don't remember, but years ago (in a SF playoff game) Aikman made the exact same mistake. If I recall SF got up about 21-0 in the first quarter.

Also, it looks like a better throw could have completed the pass to Crayton.

All QB's make mistakes, lets hope Romo learns from his. Remember he had some bad games in the past as do all good QBs.

JR

 

[Clove]

I see that the guy shows a clip, and this turns into a Romo bashing session vs talking about the strategy of the clip.

I think the biggest person who is at fault next to Romo is Garrett and Wade. You cannot continuously allow the clock to wind all the way down when you're changing plays or what not so I think we should go to a form of hurry up.

Not necessarily the actual hurry up, but don't huddle and allow the coaches to send in the play while we are lined up. This gives us 14 or so seconds to change in to any audibles or to change out of it. Romo can get a longer look at what defenses are lining up in, and they are forced to show their hand early because the play clock is so high up, they never know when we're going to snap it so they need to be in position.

But if the clock runs all the way down, you don't have to show your hand until the last second, that's too late sometimes.

 

[jobberone]

Guys:

I know you don't remember, but years ago (in a SF playoff game) Aikman made the exact same mistake. If I recall SF got up about 21-0 in the first quarter.

Also, it looks like a better throw could have completed the pass to Crayton.

All QB's make mistakes, lets hope Romo learns from his. Remember he had some bad games in the past as do all good QBs.

JR

That was the 94 CC game.

 

[landryscorner]

I dont need NFl films to tell me that Romo really really really screwed up big time, but thanks anyways NFl films.