Amendola on Irvin Show - 8/18/08

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Not if Jerry's telling it straight about only carrying 5 WRs... Austin won't be put on IR or PUP, he'll just be inactive the first week or two, until he's ready to return to action...

No way the Armadillo cracks the top 5 of Owens, Crayton, Hurd, Austin and Stanback... I figure it's the practice squad for him...
 

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silverbear;2201844 said:
Not if Jerry's telling it straight about only carrying 5 WRs... Austin won't be put on IR or PUP, he'll just be inactive the first week or two, until he's ready to return to action...

No way the Armadillo cracks the top 5 of Owens, Crayton, Hurd, Austin and Stanback... I figure it's the practice squad for him...

As much as I wish otherwise, I think you're correct.
 

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keep him on the practice squad in case of future injuries. hopefully, for him, he'll get picked up by another team--we're just too talented right now.
 

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Ben_n_austin;2201882 said:
As much as I wish otherwise, I think you're correct.

I wish I was wrong too, but I don't think I am...
 

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silverbear;2201895 said:
I wish I was wrong too, but I don't think I am...

I don't get the Amendola obsession. I finished watching the preseason game last night and he was just kind of there. The punt return was not quite to the level of Crayton, and while he had a great move to get open on Bartel's final drive, the 4th down play where he kept juking caused the last second INT.

He faked out his own QB. He's raw, and about a half step slow. I think he should be happy to make the PS this year. Let's see what a year in an NFL program can do for him, cause I just don't see an NFL WR at this point.
 

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I believe this guy is practice squad at best....have not seeen anything special
 

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Danny has 2 games left. I think the staff knows about his WR abilities. The determining factor in the last two games is punt returning. If he shows up then that might push him on the roster.

Everybody seems to be thinking at some point this season, Pacman is going to be challenging for the #2/3 CB spot. When and if that happens, he will be to valuable to risk a injury doing punt returns.
 

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ChrisCanty99;2201902 said:
I don't get the Amendola obsession. I finished watching the preseason game last night and he was just kind of there. The punt return was not quite to the level of Crayton, and while he had a great move to get open on Bartel's final drive, the 4th down play where he kept juking caused the last second INT.

He faked out his own QB. He's raw, and about a half step slow. I think he should be happy to make the PS this year. Let's see what a year in an NFL program can do for him, cause I just don't see an NFL WR at this point.

he's this years fan favorite longshot. we get one every year.
 

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alby;2201885 said:
keep him on the practice squad in case of future injuries. hopefully, for him, he'll get picked up by another team--we're just too talented right now.

I don't think he has done enough where teams will be looking at him. I do think there is a chance he could make the practice squad but.
 

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Here's why I'm skeptical of Amendola: The NFL is a copycat league. Everyone pays attention to whatever unusual thing helps one of the better teams. Wes Welker was a sensation for New England... maybe slightly overrated, but extremely valuable.

Amendola comes along, looking pretty similar, in many ways, yet he is undrafted. That seems to suggest teams saw significant flaws. I can't imagine that he was overlooked.

Of course, the NFL makes errors, and Amendola might turn out to be the real deal. But he was available in the draft in a year in which he ought to have had his very best chance of being taken. Someone ought to have seen a Welker clone if there was one there. But every team passed.

NFL teams get in trouble for looking too much at measurables, but there is a reason. The exceptions tend to have rare ability in some particular area: Welker's quickness, Zach Thomas' instincts, etcetera... I'm not sure Amendola has rare ability in any one particular area.
 

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dueyhemlock;2201956 said:
Danny has 2 games left. I think the staff knows about his WR abilities. The determining factor in the last two games is punt returning. If he shows up then that might push him on the roster.

Everyboby seems to be thinking at some point this season, Pacman is going to be challenging for the #2/3 CB spot. When and if that happens, he will be to valuable to risk a injury doing punt returns.

See, I disagree with this. I agreed that it wasn't worth Newman, but Newman was never the returner that Pacman is. Pacman is a Hester-like punt returning, he's dangerous as hell, and will often make the opponent shank the ball out of bounds.

You put him back there. He's young and we're deep at CB. Did we not let Deion return punts to worry about risking injury? Ha, we even had the guy playing offense. You might see the same thing from Pacman once he gets into the flow of things, a couple trick offensive plays. It was mentioned awhile ago but no one has said anything about it lately, so we'll see.

Either way, I don't think you can take away that large of an asset to your team. If we're up in a blowout, sure, throw someone else back there. But don't be mistaken, Pacman is a game changer.
 

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Jay;2201998 said:
See, I disagree with this. I agreed that it wasn't worth Newman, but Newman was never the returner that Pacman is. Pacman is a Hester-like punt returning, he's dangerous as hell, and will often make the opponent shank the ball out of bounds.

You put him back there. He's young and we're deep at CB. Did we not let Deion return punts to worry about risking injury? Ha, we even had the guy playing offense. You might see the same thing from Pacman once he gets into the flow of things, a couple trick offensive plays. It was mentioned awhile ago but no one has said anything about it lately, so we'll see.

Either way, I don't think you can take away that large of an asset to your team. If we're up in a blowout, sure, throw someone else back there. But don't be mistaken, Pacman is a game changer.

I agree he is a legit weapon who has the ability to take it to the house anytime he has the ball in his hands. Special teams TD count the same as anyother so if you got a weapon like that you use him.
 

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Jay;2201998 said:
See, I disagree with this. I agreed that it wasn't worth Newman, but Newman was never the returner that Pacman is. Pacman is a Hester-like punt returning, he's dangerous as hell, and will often make the opponent shank the ball out of bounds.

You put him back there. He's young and we're deep at CB. Did we not let Deion return punts to worry about risking injury? Ha, we even had the guy playing offense. You might see the same thing from Pacman once he gets into the flow of things, a couple trick offensive plays. It was mentioned awhile ago but no one has said anything about it lately, so we'll see.

Either way, I don't think you can take away that large of an asset to your team. If we're up in a blowout, sure, throw someone else back there. But don't be mistaken, Pacman is a game changer.


There's no questioning Pac's return ability. If his role at the CB spot increases, then his role at punt returner decreases. Why chance injury.

Danny can be a backup returner and WR. Any way to squeeze him on the roster only adds to solving some of our WR depth problem. If were're only keeping 5 WRs on the roster, then there's no need for this discussion.
 

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Ben_n_austin;2201882 said:
As much as I wish otherwise, I think you're correct.

In his defense and in light of my hopes for him, he does have another game to show his stuff.....


Maybe Z. Thomas can lobby for his cause and tout his roots. :laugh1:
 

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dueyhemlock;2202032 said:
There's no questioning Pac's return ability. If his role at the CB spot increases, then his role at punt returner decreases. Why chance injury.

Danny can be a backup returner and WR. Any way to squeeze him on the roster only adds to solving some of our WR depth problem. If were're only keeping 5 WRs on the roster, then there's no need for this discussion.

Because he is one of the best and special team is very important and plays a big role in winning games be it great field position or out right scoring.
 

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dueyhemlock;2201956 said:
Danny has 2 games left. I think the staff knows about his WR abilities. The determining factor in the last two games is punt returning. If he shows up then that might push him on the roster.

Everybody seems to be thinking at some point this season, Pacman is going to be challenging for the #2/3 CB spot. When and if that happens, he will be to valuable to risk a injury doing punt returns.
He's too big of an asset as a returner to not use him, especially when we have more quality CBs than we've had in years.
 

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Doomsday101;2202044 said:
Because he is one of the best and special team is very important and plays a big role in winning games be it great field position or out right scoring.


I agree with you and Jay about Pacman's a awesome returner. Just looking for reasons to justify keeping a roster spot open for this Danny kid. If he has value at two position then that increases his chances.

Danny's punt fumble (high/low tackle) and improvising on his pattern that was intercepted doesn't help his cause. If he wants it, then he has to make it happen if giving quantity/quality playing time.

These next two games should seperate the contenders from the pretenders.
 

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dueyhemlock;2202081 said:
I agree with you and Jay about Pacman's a awesome returner. Just looking for reasons to justify keeping a roster spot open for this Danny kid. If he has value at two position then that increases his chances.

These next two games should seperate the contenders from the pretenders.

Danny's punt fumble (high/low tackle) and improvising on his pattern that was intercepted doesn't help his cause. If he wants it, then he has to make it happen if giving quantity/quality playing time.

I like the kid but face it he is an UDFA who has not done anything as of yet. He is clearly not worthy of making the 53 man roster, why would you bend over backward to give him a roster spot other than he seems like a nice guy? I think he may have a shot at the practice squad but other than that he is not ready for this level of play not by a long shot.
 
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