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Romo's first play against the Giants, A pass,,, WHY. Undrafted No NFL Experience.. Playing the GIANTS on Monday Night Football for the Division lead, a winner take all game. He's got tobe nervous,

Why were the coaches letting him go pass crazy, The Giants Defense was tearing up Bledsoe....the Cowboys were down 5 not 25 (as it turned out 2b). JJ and Barber could help him out..

But WHY did the coaches call all the gunslinger play's and not use JJ more...


Romo will getter done (i hope) but the play calling for Romo was (IMO) questionable.. especial on MNF against the GIANTS
 

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hindsight is 20-20 and I was wondering why we did not start out the 2nd half with a run.......like you said, it would of calmed ROMO down a little
 

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Future 585;1119184 said:
its the exact play i would have run

Yep. But I'm pretty sure the "throw it right at Strahan" part wasn't in the playbook.
 

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Bigdog24;1119162 said:
Romo's first play against the Giants, A pass,,, WHY. Undrafted No NFL Experience.. Playing the GIANTS on Monday Night Football for the Division lead, a winner take all game. He's got tobe nervous,

Why were the coaches letting him go pass crazy, The Giants Defense was tearing up Bledsoe....the Cowboys were down 5 not 25 (as it turned out 2b). JJ and Barber could help him out..

But WHY did the coaches call all the gunslinger play's and not use JJ more...


Romo will getter done (i hope) but the play calling for Romo was (IMO) questionable.. especial on MNF against the GIANTS
There were 2 options for Romo's first play. Run the ball or pass. The coaches decided to try and pass or he audibled out of a called run because of something he saw. Why is it so hard to believe that his first play was a pass given there are only 2 options?
 

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Hostile;1119193 said:
There were 2 options for Romo's first play. Run the ball or pass. The coaches decided to try and pass or he audibled out of a called run because of something he saw. Why is it so hard to believe that his first play was a pass given there are only 2 options?

Personally I think a high percentage pass play like a screen is perfect to get your young backup into the game and get the jitters out. Start building some confidence early and get rolling.

Just didn't work out.
 

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I thought a run would be better served to get some nerves out. Probably the best play would be to max protect and send one of the receivers on a go route along the sideline. Let Romo get his butterflys finished by throwing it as far as he can and most likely out of bounds.

I thought making Fasano one of his top reads on that play was a poor choice. Romo forced it and made a bad, bad choice, but I think they could have put him in a better spot to succeed. He may have screwed up any play and later did in the game. I just didn't like that call.
 

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It should have been a nice rollout, an easy completion, to get his confidence going. Instead, Strahan (who was unstoppable, and seemingly everywhere) made a heck of a play on a bad decision. I don't really fault the call.
 

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Bigdog24;1119162 said:
Romo's first play against the Giants, A pass,,, WHY. Undrafted No NFL Experience.. Playing the GIANTS on Monday Night Football for the Division lead, a winner take all game. He's got tobe nervous,

Why were the coaches letting him go pass crazy, The Giants Defense was tearing up Bledsoe....the Cowboys were down 5 not 25 (as it turned out 2b). JJ and Barber could help him out..

But WHY did the coaches call all the gunslinger play's and not use JJ more...


Romo will getter done (i hope) but the play calling for Romo was (IMO) questionable.. especial on MNF against the GIANTS

Big Bill or whoever calls the plays seems to do that, maybe because everyone and their mother are expecting run in that situation.

I know Henson's first pass was intercepted, but I cant remember if that was his first ever play when he played against Baltimore. So whoever calls the plays has a history of making those kinds of calls, probably to get their confidence up as quickly as possible.

That is one of those deal where, when it works, your a genius and when it doesn't then it was a terrible call and heads should roll ;) .

Remember Parcells keeps telling us that he is not going to dumb the playbook down and that from his perspective, from watching him in Practice and in the Preseason, he hadnt demonstrated that he was Turnover prone like he was Monday.

Im perfectly fine with the call. Now the one we ran when the Gints got a Safety, now that is a different story.
 

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mickgreen58;1119217 said:
Big Bill or whoever calls the plays seems to do that, maybe because everyone and their mother are expecting run in that situation.

I know Henson's first pass was intercepted, but I cant remember if that was his first ever play when he played against Baltimore.

That is one of those deal where, when it works, your a genius and when it doesn't then it was a terrible call and heads should roll ;) .

Remember Parcells keeps telling us that he is not going to dumb the playbook down and that from his perspective, from watching him in Practice and in the Preseason, he hadnt demonstrated that he was Turnover prone like he was Monday.

Im perfectly fine with the call. Now the one we ran when the Gints got a Safety, now that is a different story.

I don't think Henson's first pass was intercepted. His very first play, he fumbled against the Ravens when they got to him.

I will reiterate what I said earlier. Calling a pass play wasn't as bad as making Fasano one of the top options. In the least, Witten should have been lined up to that side.
 

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mickgreen58;1119217 said:
Big Bill or whoever calls the plays seems to do that, maybe because everyone and their mother are expecting run in that situation.

Exactly. Running the ball in that instance is listed on page 3 of the NFL Head Coaches Handbook so undoubtedly the Giants figured that.

Plus it's not like we'd had any success running the ball anyway so we'd have likely been stuffed perhaps oweing to a 2nd and 13 or some such to boot.
 

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Why would running the ball calm down a quarterback? I don't understand that one. If he was nervous, he would've been nervous with his first pass regardless if it was the first or 10th play of the drive (if it wasn't intercepted). He'll learn to get the ball up. It would be a moot point if he had completed the pass and he would look like a genius. Unfortunately, it was tipped and picked off. It's not because he made a bad decision. The decision to pass was good.
 

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the DoNkEy PuNcH;1119263 said:
Why would running the ball calm down a quarterback? I don't understand that one. If he was nervous, he would've been nervous with his first pass regardless if it was the first or 10th play of the drive (if it wasn't intercepted). He'll learn to get the ball up. It would be a moot point if he had completed the pass and he would look like a genius. Unfortunately, it was tipped and picked off. It's not because he made a bad decision. The decision to pass was good.

Agree: sometimes its better to be lucky than good, His first pass was more about luck on the Giants side (catching a tipped ball) then failure on Romo
 

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Bigdog24;1119162 said:
Romo's first play against the Giants, A pass,,, WHY. Undrafted No NFL Experience.. Playing the GIANTS on Monday Night Football for the Division lead, a winner take all game. He's got tobe nervous,

Why were the coaches letting him go pass crazy, The Giants Defense was tearing up Bledsoe....the Cowboys were down 5 not 25 (as it turned out 2b). JJ and Barber could help him out..

But WHY did the coaches call all the gunslinger play's and not use JJ more...


Romo will getter done (i hope) but the play calling for Romo was (IMO) questionable.. especial on MNF against the GIANTS

I suspect the idea was to get the butterflies out of Romo right off by passing on first down rather than his first pass being in a passing situation where a first down was at stake and the Giants defense could attack becasue they knew a pass was coming.

Not a bad idea if you ask me.

As for why we didn't use JJ more, the first reason is that he hadn't been effective at all up to that point. The second reason is that after that first pass was picked off and the Giants scored we were playing catch up the rest of the game.
 

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I'm pretty sure I read a quote that said it was a play that was supposed to be a high percentage completion play to get his confidence going.. It probably was a good idea since everybody and their mother thought it would be a run, the execution just wasn't there.

Also, like Stautner said, it's better to get him going there then to have 2 runs gets stuffed and ask him to make a play on 3rd & 8.
 

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Stautner;1119423 said:
I suspect the idea was to get the butterflies out of Romo right off by passing on first down rather than his first pass being in a passing situation where a first down was at stake and the Giants defense could attack becasue they knew a pass was coming.

Not a bad idea if you ask me.

As for why we didn't use JJ more, the first reason is that he hadn't been effective at all up to that point. The second reason is that after that first pass was picked off and the Giants scored we were playing catch up the rest of the game.
Good post. I agree.
 

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Bigdog24;1119162 said:
Romo's first play against the Giants, A pass,,, WHY. Undrafted No NFL Experience.. Playing the GIANTS on Monday Night Football for the Division lead, a winner take all game. He's got tobe nervous,

Why were the coaches letting him go pass crazy, The Giants Defense was tearing up Bledsoe....the Cowboys were down 5 not 25 (as it turned out 2b). JJ and Barber could help him out..

But WHY did the coaches call all the gunslinger play's and not use JJ more...


Romo will getter done (i hope) but the play calling for Romo was (IMO) questionable.. especial on MNF against the GIANTS

What would you be saying if the play HAD worked???? :confused:
 

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1fisher;1119446 said:
What would you be saying if the play HAD worked???? :confused:

We all can second guess every play, I'm not trying tobe negative, It was a blast watching the Boy's offense for a change. The 2nd half of the game tho Play calling had to much of sense of urgency to early for me. Encouraging him to get wild and he got wild, I understand he was under constant pressure. The coaches can manage the game with plays, if the players are calling there own shots on the field then thats another story...there's a whole lot if, and, Butts, with the descions, But I thought he did a good job with what little time he had to prepare and in the pocket. But set the guy up for success first, you can't be a superhero all the time....
 
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