And so begins the black hole of the NFL year

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My wife purchased a French Vanilla Chai/Tea that I tried last night. I hate to admit it, but it was delightful...will do again...soon..prolly tonight.

Yes, it starts with something the wife buys. Pretty soon you are eating asparagus creme cakes and coffee spiked with fermented yogurt. I advise all manly men to think twice about these food products pushed at us by PBS chefs who don't know frisee from football. I ask American men to eat the following: Meat, gravy (and spaghetti if you are in training) and drink beer, bourbon and slurpees for optimum health.
 

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Yes, it starts with something the wife buys. Pretty soon you are eating asparagus creme cakes and coffee spiked with fermented yogurt. I advise all manly men to think twice about these food products pushed at us by PBS chefs who don't know frisee from football. I ask American men to eat the following: Meat, gravy (and spaghetti if you are in training) and drink beer, bourbon and slurpees for optimum health.

Now that's a diet I could get behind.
 

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...a place where Basketball and Baseball rule the airwaves and dominate sports television shows. For someone who was born and raised a football fan and football only, I feel as though it is a real life version of the television show "Lost." As an aside, I really don't like that show, but my wife is a fan, so I'm familiar with the premise...and right now being a diehard Dallas Cowboys fan feels exactly like that...lost.


The cowboyszone is an oasis, but slake your thirst as much as you like at the zone-trough, you will always find your thirst still there at the end of the day. There is nothing like live-action games that actually mean something to scratch the 7 month itch without football. This year that game happens on September 11th, a day before I turn 38, against the team I have learned to hate more than any other NFCE foe: The New York Football Giants. I really hate when the media refers to them like that...but I digress.



Before I move forward, I think we as a fanship should be able to agree on a few things:

1. With a healthy Romo, this team is closer to the 12 & 4 team of 2014 than the 4 & 12 team of 2015.

2. Ramsey is not Ed Reed. Had he been, I might understand the Zeke hate…in fact, I would have been very torn between Zeke and Ramsey. But since Ramsey is perhaps a better version of Byron Jones, Zeke was the obvious pick. You don’t have to agree, but you do eventually need to get over it.

3. Drafting Jaylin Smith was the equivalent of trading a 2016 2nd round pick for a high 2017 1st round pick. Sure, it was a gamble, but so is every other player drafted in any given year in one way or another.

Despite this dark period, I have had several topics circling the drain of my head. Rather than throw out a bunch of little threads where it becomes necessary to move back and forth between topics, which I do not have time for, I figured I would just mash them up and present them here.

How Stats Lie ~

Quite simply, stats lie because it cannot account for situational football, it does not consider other talent on the same team that the coach also likes to give the ball to, and the data being compiled by various teams are against varied competition and therefore cannot be in any way considered conclusive. To make conclusions using stats and stats alone, without the benefit of context, will likely lead you far and away from reality and an effective strategy.

For example, if coaches looked at stats and stats alone, the running game would systematically disappear, because all the stats suggest you win games by passing the ball and passing the ball alone. Of course, anyone who has watched a good amount of football understands that passing and running are symbiotic. You really can’t have an effective one without a decent other. Without the presence of a decent run game, playaction and draws would be useless devices in the game.

If teams decided to do away with the running back position, you would see the opposing defense bring in 11 corners to stand on the line at the first down marker and swarm all of the passing lanes as the play progresses. For visual reference, think back to playground football, where handing off the ball is only done if a team has a big kid no one can tackle. For the most part, the game played in the park is about passing the ball and therefore conventional pro-style formations are rarely if ever used.

I’m not trying to suggest that stats are useless; but without the benefit of context, stats can be very misleading.

Aaron Levenstein said it best: Staticstics are like bikinis, what they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

Therefore, while I expect big things from Zeke, to suggest it was a wasted pick simply because he doesn’t match or improve upon the yards from scrimmage in one season Demarco did two years ago is a very misguided assertion. If the Cowboys are smart, they will limit his touches as compared to what they did to Demarco, to keep him fresh throughout the season and more importantly into the postseason.

Why Players Bust ~

The draft is a crap shoot; an accelerated version of craps, where the odds of rolling 7 or 11 decrease the further you get from your first roll. But what makes it such a gamble?

Players in the first round are rarely if ever described as projects; these are the guys you want to start from day 1. And yet, every year, several players are dubbed bust despite their draft pedigree. It’s not like they of a sudden forgot how to play the game and/or their position. So what happened?

The simple answer is (often times) money. Many of these players go from having nothing to everything. Some might say, “well, I see what you’re saying, but if I of a sudden was rich, I’d do everything I could to keep it!”

That make sense, only there is one problem with saying that now. The poor you is saying that. The rich you will likely have completely different plans; afterall, you can’t take it with you, so you may as well enjoy it while you have it, right? And I’m afraid, for many of these early 20 year old degenerates, that is the mantra they adopt until the Turk comes calling asking for their playbook and to meet the coach in their office.

For some, that is all the slap upside the head they need to figure it out and take advantage of their second chance should it come. Manziel, on the other hand, may never snap out of it for one simple reason: daddy’s rich and he doesn’t have to keep on taking those hits to live better than 90% of the people in the world, so why should he?

So, at the end of the day, when GM’s/and/or team personnel interview these players, the first question they should be asking, once they’ve established a player can play and possibly flourish in their scheme, is what is the first thing they are going to buy after they cash that first check? If they starting listing off all the things they are going to buy themselves, you may want to reconsider them in the next round from whatever round they are being projected. If they are going to take care of their family (e.g. buy mom a house and a car, take care of their kids/wife/girlfriend, family etc) this is a guy you want on your team. Why? Because his performance is about more than him and what it does for him; everything he does is about his family and what he can do for them. This guy is going to work hard at his craft because in his mind that is his only option. The guy that plays for himself and only himself will let himself down.

Granted, it’s not an exact science; but I feel pretty confident.

RKG ~

Since the day Garrett first coined the phrase, mediots, talking-heads, and (unfortunately) zoners alike have truly enjoyed grabbing Garrett by the metaphorical scruff of the neck and rubbing his nose into the acquired players that aren’t choirboys/boy scouts. Part of the issue here is the difference between his definition of RKG and that of everyone else. For many, RKG mean’s a guy who in his spare time rescue puppies and kittens and is constantly on the look-out for old ladies to assist across the street. Just so you know, though, that’s not Garrett definition at all…in fact, the two aren’t even close.

Garrett’s definition is more about the player on the field, the work the player is willing to put in off the field to perfect his craft, and what kind of teammate is said player. Does he help those around him to get better or is he a distraction. Now on that last point, many will likely scream, “but he has brought in distractions.” Fair point. But the problem with that is this consideration: just because a player is not an RKG now, he could become one. And it is that point coupled with cap-induced limitations that makes teams take chances on guys like Hardy. Sometimes it only takes being unceremoniously released from the team that drafted you to finally get it. Others, require more time to wrap their head around what they need to do to stay in the league. And since an organization cannot predict how a player is going to mix with the team, the only thing they can do is throw them in there and hope it works out. Sometimes it does. Other times it doesn’t, as we all saw with Hardy. But if you want an organization that will turn over any stone to find productive players, you will have to deal with the occasional knucklehead.

Thoughts?

Who is Jaylin?
 

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Lawson dude, the guy the Bills drafted.

don't blame him for anything. I guess he needs surgery on his shoulder......but didn't exactly advertise that during the drafting process...

smart move young man, smart move.

Medical checks didnt pick it up either.
 

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You are right...I'm not a scout. But everything I've read is that Ramsey will be great provided he play's safety.

Never called it a spectacular draft, but if Romo's stay's healthy, they didn't need it to be spectacular.

I would challenge you to find Jason Garrett's original definition of RKG. I have this conversation just about every year since he said it and I can tell you it has nothing to do with the players citizenship.

This RKG thing is a joke at this point. Whatever you guys think he means or whatever it means nothing. Any kind of RKG that doesnt include off the field or locker room distraction stuff isnt worth a damn anyway. If Garrett doesnt include that in what he means than its a useless definition. Who cares if the guy loves football if he beats his wife or is on drugs and cant play? Doesnt even make sense.

McClain has retired twice from football and doesnt like to practice. Is that the RKG that Garrett means? Joe Randle is that the RKG Garrett means? Give it a rest already trying to defend Garrett and his RKG nonsense.
 

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Well this time of year used to really be bad, but the Internet changed all that.
you can watch nfl football all year if you have the game rewind service , or games on your hd.
and with sites like this and the other sports sites, you can talk about it, or read news.

In the old days there would be nothing in the paper or on the news about nfl or cowboys.
 

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This RKG thing is a joke at this point. Whatever you guys think he means or whatever it means nothing. Any kind of RKG that doesnt include off the field or locker room distraction stuff isnt worth a damn anyway. If Garrett doesnt include that in what he means than its a useless definition. Who cares if the guy loves football if he beats his wife or is on drugs and cant play? Doesnt even make sense.

McClain has retired twice from football and doesnt like to practice. Is that the RKG that Garrett means? Joe Randle is that the RKG Garrett means? Give it a rest already trying to defend Garrett and his RKG nonsense.

Again, they can't all be RKG's. Some RKG's have everything you want, for the exception of being able to actually compete in the pro's. Some guy's not typically described as RKG's, do have all the skills the team's look for to compete in the pro's. Add to that the salary cap limitations, and from time to time you have to take chances on both described players above. Maybe the RKG, with time can be developed into something. And sometimes the guy that is not normally described as an RKG can become an RKG in the right situation for the right coach.

But, I believe the philosophy is essentially the same thing every team look's for...Garrett simply gave it a name.
 

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RKG = brown nose lol
Treat the coaches like they are genius and football guru's
Come in early, leave late, play for whatever they offer to pay you.
Dont question anything, coaches and jones boys know all !!

Tell JG he is best coach in NFL !!
Dont talk about freezing kickers !!

Believe in the process , even if you dont know exactly what that means.
Have positive conversations with the mannequin !
Wear all the mantra t shirts, wear the "fight" shirt a lot.

If JG says give away your div champ cap , give that sucker away, or hide it somewhere and say you
gave it away!

Bring JG coffee or whatever he likes.

During game after big play, run off field by JG so he can pat your butt, or hit you.
give him a high 5 or something cool, he will like that. maybe a hug, works good for dez.

Do all that and more, and even if your just mediocre player you will have a job with cowboys for years.
 

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Again, they can't all be RKG's. Some RKG's have everything you want, for the exception of being able to actually compete in the pro's. Some guy's not typically described as RKG's, do have all the skills the team's look for to compete in the pro's. Add to that the salary cap limitations, and from time to time you have to take chances on both described players above. Maybe the RKG, with time can be developed into something. And sometimes the guy that is not normally described as an RKG can become an RKG in the right situation for the right coach.

But, I believe the philosophy is essentially the same thing every team look's for...Garrett simply gave it a name.

Like I said, his version or what you think his version is means nothing if it doesnt include being a good enough teamate to play and not be a distraction. And whether he wants his RKG or not doesnt matter because Jones is picking the players and he obviously doesnt care about RKG. Only guys that can help him win. Or at least he thinks they can.

There is NOTHING to stick up for here. Nothing at all. Garrett is will be judged by how he coaches the team and if he wins, not on his definition of RKG. And up till now he has been well below standard in every regard.
 

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Have you ever heard a robot say "blimey," Gimme? Nevermind that you have never heard a robot say anything, just answer the question darnit....lol

He knows I saw him down at Farmers Branch in the "English Pub" and he downing pints like he was on fire !!!!
 

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Like I said, his version or what you think his version is means nothing if it doesnt include being a good enough teamate to play and not be a distraction. And whether he wants his RKG or not doesnt matter because Jones is picking the players and he obviously doesnt care about RKG. Only guys that can help him win. Or at least he thinks they can.

There is NOTHING to stick up for here. Nothing at all. Garrett is will be judged by how he coaches the team and if he wins, not on his definition of RKG. And up till now he has been well below standard in every regard.

Not defending him...I agree with much of the criticism slung his way - such as, in game management, not tailoring his scheme to the talent he has, not playing younger talent and I've always felt that he is a step behind many coaches when it comes to X's and O's. That said, I do like the direction of his team. I do like that his team's don't quit on him (alla Wade), and I understand and can appreciate what he is trying to accomplish when he say's "we want RKG's."

The problem with many fan's is they have tendency to veer away from the topic at hand and bring up thing's like RKG, give it a new definition and then attack him on the premise that he is contradicting himself, when he really isn't. If you want to criticize him, by all means, there are plenty of things to point to but his "process" of building this team into a contender isn't one of them. From the hot mess that was the Wade administration to now, this team has made leap's in talent acquisition.
 

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Yes, it starts with something the wife buys. Pretty soon you are eating asparagus creme cakes and coffee spiked with fermented yogurt. I advise all manly men to think twice about these food products pushed at us by PBS chefs who don't know frisee from football. I ask American men to eat the following: Meat, gravy (and spaghetti if you are in training) and drink beer, bourbon and slurpees for optimum health.

:omg:
 

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Not defending him...I agree with much of the criticism slung his way - such as, in game management, not tailoring his scheme to the talent he has, not playing younger talent and I've always felt that he is a step behind many coaches when it comes to X's and O's. That said, I do like the direction of his team. I do like that his team's don't quit on him (alla Wade), and I understand and can appreciate what he is trying to accomplish when he say's "we want RKG's."

The problem with many fan's is they have tendency to veer away from the topic at hand and bring up thing's like RKG, give it a new definition and then attack him on the premise that he is contradicting himself, when he really isn't. If you want to criticize him, by all means, there are plenty of things to point to but his "process" of building this team into a contender isn't one of them. From the hot mess that was the Wade administration to now, this team has made leap's in talent acquisition.

Wade was head and shoulders a better coach that Garrett on his best day. Say what you want about the team quitting or not, Garrett was one of the things that got Wade fired. And he certainly proved to be a much better coordinator.
 

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People saying get over Zeke pick...bring up the Zeke vs. Ramsey debate the most.

Meanwhile people know that Ramsey isn't Ed Reed but are certain that Zeke is some amalgamation of Adrian Peterson, Emmitt Smith and Ladanian Tomlinson.

Cool story bro.

Gee, and why would they think that way? Ed Reed had 21 interceptions at Miami. Ramsey had 3 at FSU. Meanwhile, EE was insanely productive at OSU, scoring 23 tds in his final season, after scoring 18 the year before. If you want to get your panties in a bunch because the team didn't pick your guy, fine. But to suggest that there isn't strong evidence that one of these guys is the real deal and the other is pure media-generated hype is ridiculous. There is nothing in Ramsey's career to suggest he is some kind of ball hawk, absolutely nothing. There is a lot to suggest EE is going to be a franchise-changing RB.
 

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Wade was head and shoulders a better coach that Garrett on his best day. Say what you want about the team quitting or not, Garrett was one of the things that got Wade fired. And he certainly proved to be a much better coordinator.

Wade is a great coordinator but a horrible head coach. Jason is a much better coach than he was a coordinator...which isn't saying a whole lot...but he still better than Wade.
 

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Gee, and why would they think that way? Ed Reed had 21 interceptions at Miami. Ramsey had 3 at FSU. Meanwhile, EE was insanely productive at OSU, scoring 23 tds in his final season, after scoring 18 the year before. If you want to get your panties in a bunch because the team didn't pick your guy, fine. But to suggest that there isn't strong evidence that one of these guys is the real deal and the other is pure media-generated hype is ridiculous. There is nothing in Ramsey's career to suggest he is some kind of ball hawk, absolutely nothing. There is a lot to suggest EE is going to be a franchise-changing RB.

Ramsey was called an elite prospect by virtually everyone who scouted him. That doesn't mean he's likely to be a hall of famer but to dismiss his potential out of hand is stupid.

Zeke was called an elite prospect by virtually everyone who scouted him. That doesn't mean he's likely to be a hall of famer but to discuss it like it's a certainty is stupid.

I wanted Ramsey. I'd have also been fine with losing him and taking the Ravens deal.

What I have said from day 1 is that taking a running back at 4, especially with our line, is stupid.

I have never said that Ramsey is a sure-fire thing and Zeke is all media-generated hype. Not once. Argue against my point or not at all. But don't put words/arguments in my mouth.
 

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Wade is a great coordinator but a horrible head coach. Jason is a much better coach than he was a coordinator...which isn't saying a whole lot...but he still better than Wade.

Our offenses under JG were pretty good year in and year out...and Romo continued to flourish and grow under his tutelage.

These are irrefutable facts.
 
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