Arbitrator found NFL encouraged teams to collude regarding guaranteed contracts

Football is a business. Mahomes is probably the most underpaid player in the history of the sport. Mahomes is not just a great player, he is a role model for everyone. He is basically Dak’s CEO personality combined with talent of prime Aaron Rodgers. These football teams are worth on the average now of 8 billion dollars.

Stop defending the greedy owners. This is America if a team wants to give Mahomes $70 million a season so be it.
Huh? I was commenting on Mahomes desire to win and willingness to take less to spread the wealth for better players. I've been a fan since his TTU days, my almamater. I mentioned nothing about the owners or my dislike of Jerry Jones.

And he still makes plenty!
 
This is clickbait. NFL won the case. Article hinges on the NFL giving teams what appears to be good financial advice i.e. that teams are giving out too much guaranteed money. Us Cowboys fans are very aware of the impact of giving out large guaranteed contracts to players who underperform.
They can fix by setting a percentage limit on contracts.

More $$$ for the other players.

It works for the NHL.
 
You’re spazzing out because you got your card pulled. Classic.
Boyhowdy, you are weird. You post doesn't even make sense. All you've done this entire thread is slither around on your bandbox and lie. None of what you've said is true, and now you've turned to cryptic nonsense. I was fully aware that you are losing this discussion, but manalive, I hadn't realized that you were getting your bum kicked this bad. You have made zero cogent points here. Looks like you've exposed yourself. Insults, lies, strawman arguments, no facts. Yeah, someone got their card pulled all right.
 
This is clickbait. NFL won the case. Article hinges on the NFL giving teams what appears to be good financial advice i.e. that teams are giving out too much guaranteed money. Us Cowboys fans are very aware of the impact of giving out large guaranteed contracts to players who underperform.
Fully guaranteed contracts can do serious financial harm to teams. Ask the browns lol
 
Sounds like someone who's never owner a business. Let's at least admit they're all greedy.
We are all greedy. But nfl owners for the mist part are pretty smart. A fully guaranteed contract has super high risks not only to owners but the league. We see that with Watson. I don’t mind players getting their money but no fear of losing any job doesn’t lead to a good job getting done.
 
So we’re in agreement; he was black-balled for expressing his 1st Amendment rights.
He wasn’t black-balled in the traditional sense, not like Hollywood during the Red Scare. No one ever told an NFL team to not sign him or else. Owners sided with their wallet. Nothing is allowed to hurt the bottom line.
 
Sounds like someone who's never owner a business. Let's at least admit they're all greedy.
Correct like calling billionaires especially Jerry cheap like he's not already spending tons of money on the team but don't call him greedy because He has his business in mind in all businesses need maximum profits. That is all business models make as much money as possible that doesn't make your owner greedy because he wants to keep more of his profits...

Besides the fact that this is a capped league and pretty much all owners spend about the same amount of money although some get more creative with the void years and kicking money on restructures further and further down the road but eventually you're going to have to pay the piper...
 
Fully guaranteed contracts can do serious financial harm to teams. Ask the browns lol
And I'm totally against them as well,and I'm not even a billionaire..​
I think you're right, I think it gives players less incentives to play when they're dinged up or they can come back earlier from injury or fake injuries, and take games off....​
I mean they're already getting money, so who cares how they perform..​

I'm all for players getting their money and haven't they got more money?? I believe two things have happened guaranteed money has gone up their percentage of their contract that's guaranteed and two have we not noticed that these players are no longer asking for just being paid top 5 at their position, they've become super greedy they want to be the highest paid skill player in the league, or the highest paid quarterback in the league.. they're pushing their salaries way up and way above their actual production, a lot of these players don't deserve these contracts.​

Once you start that path down the road now you've opened up a big can of worms, because a lot of players are now way overpaid for what they actually do on the field or for how much they can or can't carry their teams.

Going through that right now with parsons,

sure I think he should get about $36 million a year, he is definitely a top five at his position, but in my opinion he is not worth paying the top skilled contract, you know being the highest paid non quarterback contract in the league, that's getting old for me to even hear because a lot of these players are just not living up to those contracts.

Hell, I'm all 4 structures if they want to give them just say for instance Micah Parsons agrees to $35 million base salary with Say 30 million of it guaranteed, they can structure it that way but if he really wants $42 million then that other seven million needs to be earned by playing time, by being the top at your field each year, meaning you're going to have to earn some of those millions by being the sack leader, and then how many sacks in playoff games you play in ,all those bonuses should end up giving you maximum but you shouldn't just automatically have it handed to you...​

So, I'm sure there's some middle ground here on how you can get players more money more guaranteed money but instead of him being fully guaranteed you can earn more of it, but you just can't be handed it.... There're all kinds of escalators that can be built into contracts that can motivate players to earn that extra 6-$8 million, they may want, and then I'm sure it the owners will be happy to give it to him if they've actually earned it.....

Staying with Parsons has he ever led the league in sacks, Has he had a moment in the playoffs to where he actually took over a game and willed that defense and carry the offense, like say don't worry we got you, if you can give us 12 points today, we'll win the game..

you show us when he does that and I'll give him another 5 million.. I've seen players like that in this league before they're truly elite like Ray Lewis and LT I bet we even seen michael strahan do it but I have yet to see parsons do it...

The Thing that drives me nuts is about him saying in the offseason that he wasn't looking for more than 40 million he wasn't looking to be the highest paid skill player in the league and now all of a sudden he is looking for that that's just makes me think that's why Jerry doesn't like his representation he doesn't like his agent I think his agent pushed Parsons into threatening to hold out if he doesn't get paid top money instead of Reasonable amounts of money...
 
GOOD! Owners are snakes, and they need to pay BIGTIME!!!!!!!!!
The arbitrator, whose decision the owners and NFLPA by agreement must accept, informed both sides there is zero proof of any damages in deference to collusion by the owners.

No damages, nothing to pursue. Why would owners “need to pay BIGTIME!!!!!!!!!”? That doesn’t make any sense.
 
Yes. But the owners don’t play. If all the players sat out and went on strike the owners would cave to their demands. But the NFLPA sucks so there’s that.
How does the NFLPA suck? The NFLPA is players elected by teammates for two year terms. They represent the players in decisions that effect the players. The owners are all very wealthy whether or not the players play. The players do not get paid if they don’t play. You do the math.

If it were easy to create another professional football league there would be one. There isn’t. If the players don’t like working for the NFL there’s always barber college.
 
Absolutely wasn't. He's an idiot who did it to himself. If a player is too much trouble and isn't that good to begin w/, teams won't mess w/ him. Simple stuff.

If Lamarr Jackson pulled the same trash, teams would still be lining up to sign him.
He wasn't an idiot. That's for sure. People want to be willfully ignorant because that's easy. And you don't want to interrupt their cognitive dissonance because they believe what they know is true. Even when it's false.

As CalPT said, he was a starter at one point, which would indicate he's likely good enough to be a backup.

This is one area Jerral has been dead wrong on, with his stance here. But that was more about $.

CalPT is absolutely right here tho. Some of y'all just don't want to realize it for your own reasons.
 
How does the NFLPA suck? The NFLPA is players elected by teammates for two year terms. They represent the players in decisions that effect the players. The owners are all very wealthy whether or not the players play. The players do not get paid if they don’t play. You do the math.

If it were easy to create another professional football league there would be one. There isn’t. If the players don’t like working for the NFL there’s always barber college.
Sometimes you have to stand against wrong in order for change.

CBA is terrible one of the worst in sports….
No guaranteed contracts .
Terrible.
 
Sometimes you have to stand against wrong in order for change.

CBA is terrible one of the worst in sports….
No guaranteed contracts .
Terrible.
There are plenty of guaranteed contracts. Every first round draft pick gets a fully guaranteed contract. Cam Ward gets just over $43 million guaranteed and he’s never played a single snap in the NFL. “Terrible”.

Players need to decide what is important to them and consider their vote carefully when it’s time to ratify the next CBA. The agreement is their business. It’s not fans’ business. Like players, fans are free to decide they want nothing to do with the NFL.
 
There are plenty of guaranteed contracts. Every first round draft pick gets a fully guaranteed contract. Cam Ward gets just over $43 million guaranteed and he’s never played a single snap in the NFL. “Terrible”.

Players need to decide what is important to them and consider their vote carefully when it’s time to ratify the next CBA. The agreement is their business. It’s not fans’ business. Like players, fans are free to decide they want nothing to do with the NFL.
That’s terrible in itself….a rookie who never played a down has a guaranteed contract but a 10 year pro doesn’t except Watson lol?

The agreement is their business? Huh lol? Fans are why the league is functioning. You don’t have to care I get it. But yes I don’t have to relate to them in order for them to want more. They deserve a better CBA. Some of them are willing to fight it we’ve seen it from guys like Richard Sherman. Just not enough are as strong and smart as he is.
 
That’s terrible in itself….a rookie who never played a down has a guaranteed contract but a 10 year pro doesn’t except Watson lol?

The agreement is their business? Huh lol? Fans are why the league is functioning. You don’t have to care I get it. But yes I don’t have to relate to them in order for them to want more. They deserve a better CBA. Some of them are willing to fight it we’ve seen it from guys like Richard Sherman. Just not enough are as strong and smart as he is.
No, not really. Players are being paid enough in one year to retire for life. Adding in more fully guaranteed contracts = poor quality of play and less money for lesser players. Don't forget, that guaranteed money you're paying an older vet at the end when he is no longer productive takes away from what you pay a hard charging rookie/younger guy. Repercussions.
 

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