Archer: Underwhelming hires show Cowboys right to stay with Jason Garrett

[DandyDon52]

Revisit next year when one or two of these coaches have their teams contending for a playoff or SB spot....then what will the excuse be.

playoffs maybe but none of them will go to SB.

and @ op, none of those hires are inspiring.
but they were not the only ones available.

 

[NinePointOh]

David Shaw
Josh Mcdaniels
Throw big money at Jim Harbaugh
Sean Payton probably could have been had

Really? That's it?

- Shaw was already coveted by NFL teams but not available. He said on January 4 that he wanted to stay where he is and that NFL jobs wouldn't change it.

- McDaniels might have been available if we wanted to wait long enough for the Pats to be eliminated, but he's a retread who failed in his first NFL gig, which fans always hate. Not to mention the lousy track record of Belichick coordinators becoming head coaches. Is he really the best answer? If so, why didn't any of the other teams wait around for him?

- Harbaugh is a completely unrealistic option. He just signed a huge long-term contract with his dream job, where he has deep roots. I live in Michigan, and absolutely nobody thinks Harbaugh is going anywhere anytime soon.

- Payton is still under contract with the Saints, and he announced he'd be staying while other teams were still pursuing a trade. He might possibly have been available if you wanted to pony up draft picks through the nose, but even then we can only speculate about whether he "could have been had."

Again, it's extremely optimistic to expect that all these coaches who said they were staying would magically have opened up just because it's the Dallas Cowboys calling. Not everyone is as big of a Cowboys fan as we are here.

 

[Stash]

Of course not, but none of these other teams were limited to just those guys, either. Those are the guys they thought were the best attainable options on the market, given the choice of everyone available. If there was an obvious star candidate out there that we could have had, who was it and why didn't he get hired by any of the 7 teams that needed a head coach?

Take a look at each case. Do you think any of these teams have been making quality football decisions recently?

 

[Miller]

Who says your candidate had to be any of them?

 

[dcjules]

Underwhelming hires show Cowboys right to stay with Jason Garrett

9:34 PM ET

• Todd Archer
• ESPN Staff Writer

IRVING, Texas -- At some point this week the Philadelphia Eagles are expected to name Doug Pederson as their new head coach.


Unofficially, the Tennessee Titans ended the open season on head coaching vacancies when they promoted Mike Mularkey from interim coach to the full-time gig. And how completely unspectacular is that hire after his stints with the Buffalo Bills and Jacksonville Jaguars?

But just to recap, here is how the coaching dominoes fell:

Miami Dolphins -- Adam Gase

Cleveland Browns -- Hue Jackson

New York Giants -- Ben McAdoo

San Francisco 49ers -- Chip Kelly

Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Dirk Koetter

Tennessee Titans -- Mike Mularkey

Philadelphia Eagles -- Doug Pederson

For all of those who wanted the Dallas Cowboys to make a change at head coach, who would you want among that group over Jason Garrett?

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas-cowb...-why-cowboys-right-to-stay-with-jason-garrett

umm, maybe I speak with Saban, D'antoni, Shaw, Harbaugh from college....perhaps McDaniel, Turner (yes him), Horton and McDermott and Gruden and Cowher to say I did.....just to name a few!!

 

[CowboyRoy]

Underwhelming hires show Cowboys right to stay with Jason Garrett

9:34 PM ET

• Todd Archer
• ESPN Staff Writer

IRVING, Texas -- At some point this week the Philadelphia Eagles are expected to name Doug Pederson as their new head coach.


Unofficially, the Tennessee Titans ended the open season on head coaching vacancies when they promoted Mike Mularkey from interim coach to the full-time gig. And how completely unspectacular is that hire after his stints with the Buffalo Bills and Jacksonville Jaguars?

But just to recap, here is how the coaching dominoes fell:

Miami Dolphins -- Adam Gase

Cleveland Browns -- Hue Jackson

New York Giants -- Ben McAdoo

San Francisco 49ers -- Chip Kelly

Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Dirk Koetter

Tennessee Titans -- Mike Mularkey

Philadelphia Eagles -- Doug Pederson

For all of those who wanted the Dallas Cowboys to make a change at head coach, who would you want among that group over Jason Garrett?

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas-cowb...-why-cowboys-right-to-stay-with-jason-garrett

What will it take for you to fire Garrett? Nothing it seems.

 

[Alexander]

umm, maybe I speak with Saban, D'antoni, Shaw, Harbaugh from college....perhaps McDaniel, Turner (yes him), Horton and McDermott and Gruden and Cowher to say I did.....just to name a few!!

Not valid. They were not hired. All there is to choose from is the pool of mediocrity and cronyism that is NFL coaching hires.

 

[BAT]

Unsurprising, even the Cowboys' beat writers have low standards, lack creativity and only talk a good game.

 

[Dodger12]

Who says your candidate had to be any of them?

Nothing, of course. It just makes us feel better about keeping Garrett around. I mean, no one in the world of the NFL or college coaching ranks could do what Garrett does. But I also think we're selling ourselves short. We should open up the searching parameter to high school and little league coaches........that would solve our game and clock management issues almost instantly. But where these coaches may fall short is they may not be as good as Garrett in building a 4 and 12 team.....you know, the "process."

 

[Idgit]

Archer's right, it's a motley crew. Hue Jackson's interesting--and I have no idea why he went with CLE, of all places. Every other one of those hires is pretty uninspiring. I think the Bucs probably made the right call with Koetter, but that's a crap shoot.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Not valid. They were not hired. All there is to choose from is the pool of mediocrity and cronyism that is NFL coaching hires.

And Garrett fits right in there with the mediocrity is that what you are saying?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Unsurprising, even the Cowboys' beat writers have low standards, lack creativity and only talk a good game.

Many of the beat writers are fed up with Garrett as well. But they are like many other beaten down, low standard Cowboys fans. Its been so long since we were consistently competitive. Over the last 20 years, we have been one of the worst franchises in all of football. So naturally, some lower standard fans are going to get overly excited about 8-8 seasons. But these writers know as well as the rest of us that there is nothing anyone can do. Garrett is here to stay no matter what. They have that hopeless feeling that many of us have.

In Philly Garrett and Jones would have been run out of town already. Its pretty sad when a town like Philly has higher standards than the people in Dallas.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

A mediocre coach for a mediocre division.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Nothing, of course. It just makes us feel better about keeping Garrett around. I mean, no one in the world of the NFL or college coaching ranks could do what Garrett does. But I also think we're selling ourselves short. We should open up the searching parameter to high school and little league coaches........that would solve our game and clock management issues almost instantly. But where these coaches may fall short is they may not be as good as Garrett in building a 4 and 12 team.....you know, the "process."

I would be open to scouring the Pop Warner coaching ranks at this point. Some of them have to better then Garrett.

 

[CowboyRoy]

A mediocre coach for a mediocre division.

A mediocre record in one of the poorest divisions in football over the last 5 years. Any quality coach with our talent and a QB like Romo should be running away with the East every year.

 

[cowboyblue22]

there is not a lot left to be said about garrett he is mediocre but coach jones likes him so he is here and will be here unless he has another bad year next year then chances are he is gone. But who will jones hire a really good coach wont come here to work and put up with jones so we are stuck I just don't see much improvement over the next years as long as jerry is running things the last 20 don't encourage you very much.

 

[NinePointOh]

Take a look at each case. Do you think any of these teams have been making quality football decisions recently?

Be realistic. Those were basically the most obvious coaching names out there, and every team's fans have the exact same wish list. Do you really think Harbaugh and Payton are dark horses that some teams just hadn't thought of? Which is more likely -- that all these NFL GMs are stupider than you, or that some big name coaches who are already under contract with good jobs might actually want to stay where they are?

 

[Stash]

Be realistic. Those were basically the most obvious coaching names out there, and every team's fans have the exact same wish list. Do you really think Harbaugh and Payton are dark horses that some teams just hadn't thought of? Which is more likely -- that all these NFL GMs are stupider than you, or that some big name coaches who are already under contract with good jobs might actually want to stay where they are?

It sounds like you're locked in to this list alone and then projecting someone else's Harbaugh and Payton comments on me.

There are two guys that don't have head coaching jobs that would be better hires than any of these clowns - Tom Coughlin and Mike Shanahan. Both have won Super Bowls and have accomplished more than any of the guys on this list.

The fact that the guys on this list have jobs and these two don't is an indictment on each team that made a coaching change.

 

[NinePointOh]

It sounds like you're locked in to this list alone and then projecting someone else's Harbaugh and Payton comments on me.

Ah sorry, I thought you had responded to my more recent post which appeared directly above yours. I didn't read the quoted text closely. That's my fault.

There are two guys that don't have head coaching jobs that would be better hires than any of these clowns - Tom Coughlin and Mike Shanahan. Both have won Super Bowls and have accomplished more than any of the guys on this list. The fact that the guys on this list have jobs and these two don't is an indictment on each team that made a coaching change.

I guess it depends whether you think aging retreads who won Super Bowls in the past are great options, or whether you want to lock down the next rising star. Joe Gibbs, George Seifert, Bill Parcells, Mike Shanahan, and Jimmy Johnson were all pretty disappointing despite their earlier accomplishments. Now Coughlin will be 70 years old and is coming off of 3 straight losing seasons. Shanahan won 1 playoff game in 14 years after Elway retired, and went 24-40 in his last gig.

Moreover, it's doubtful that Coughlin would even have gone to the Cowboys at all. Reportedly, he walked away from the Philly job because he didn't want to start over with a brand new staff, and the Giants wouldn't let his old assistants go with him to a division rival. Dallas most likely would have run into the exact same obstacle.

 

[Stash]

Ah sorry, I thought you had responded to my more recent post which appeared directly above yours. I didn't read the quoted text closely. That's my fault.

An honest mistake my friend, no harm, no foul. A credit to you to admit it. Many people don't have that level of class.

I guess it depends whether you think aging retreads who won Super Bowls in the past are great options, or whether you want to lock down the next rising star. Joe Gibbs, George Seifert, Bill Parcells, Mike Shanahan, and Jimmy Johnson were all pretty disappointing despite their earlier accomplishments. Now Coughlin will be 70 years old and is coming off of 3 straight losing seasons. Shanahan won 1 playoff game in 14 years after Elway retired, and went 24-40 in his last gig.

Moreover, it's doubtful that Coughlin would even have gone to the Cowboys at all. Reportedly, he walked away from the Philly job because he didn't want to start over with a brand new staff, and the Giants wouldn't let his old assistants go with him to a division rival. Dallas most likely would have run into the exact same obstacle.

All very valid statements. I guess it comes down to opinion and personal preference. My own is that I prefer those who have done it over those who may or may not ever do it. And in ours, I still have yet to see any clear signs that outside of cliches and rhetoric that he has what it takes.