Are our QBs 'coach killers'?

[Redball Express]

Now do not freak out about asking this.

It's not another Dak thread.

It's about the position as it has been regarded over the years and chasing success with our team.

I will start with Romo.

Parcells had Sean Payton from the Giants come to Dallas when Parcells arrived. Rumor was that Payton was the next HC. Payton recruited Romo and he became a FA 4th string QB.

Instead the New Orleans job came and off Payton went along with Ireland.

Coach #1,Parcells, toughed it out and eventually Parcells had to sit Drew Bledsoe and start Romo. That marriage lasted a short while and one day, Parcells worried about Romo and his style of play being unpredictable and turnover prone.

Parcells called Romo "A Coach Killer".

The die was cast.

The first coach over Romo left, Parcells. You could say Payton was a second but I will not go that far. Payton wanted Brees.

Next, Phillips, Coach #2.. He had some success with Romo followed by a decline of the team.

Phillips was fired.

Romo survived but it became very apparent Romo the QB was the lead talent the team felt it must have.

Coach #3..Garrett took over. Three straight years of 8-8 followed along with rollercoaster years all over the map.

Dak replaced Romo.

Dak rose quickly initially then leveled off missing the playoffs twice in his first 4 season and only advancing past the first Rd. twice and no further.

Now Garrett is gone.

Up steps McCarthy..Coach #4.. It's way to early to say with Big Mike what is ahead.

But it's not too early to ask..

Are the QBs we ask to lead this team coach killers and just unable to win it all in the NFL?

Our QBs have gone thru Parcells, Phillips and Garrett as HCs. They are now on their 4th coach trying to win.

Is there any correlation with the fact that Romo was a FA and Dak is essentially a 4th Rd selection got any impact with the coaches failing?

Or is it just that we can not hire good HCs?

For us to break this downward spiral, do we just need to draft or trade for a top QB and move away from the bargain shopping at QB we always seem to do in the last 25 years.?

I know these questions will be to some slamming Romo and Dak.

But that is not my intent.

Is it really the coaching that is inferior or is it the QBs being assigned to the task.?

Ok..over to you.

We have plenty of time to discuss this.

BTW..T-shirts saying.." Coach Killer Walking" will be available at checkout. Just a little humor there.

Have a great weekend.

 

[Big_D]

Romo went from Parcells to Garrett not to Phillips. Wade was clearly HC and DC/ Garrett assistant HC and OC. That was Jerry's ridiculous setup and the one constant that never went away. Garrett is the player killer. 2019 every single high priced player on this team disappeared with the playoffs on the line? And that points right back to the same culprit it's always been. The coach who also should've been fired in 2010.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

13-3 Dak very few turnovers.
8-8 Dak more turnovers than usual.

Turnovers can kill a drive and lose a game. As turnovers go up winning percentages go down. That's why Parcells called Romo a coach killer, turnovers.

Jameis Winston threw for the most yards last year and probably had the most turnovers too. Good QB play is not about compiling stats, it's about taking care of the ball.

 

[Beaker42]

Now do not freak out about asking this.

It's not another Dak thread.

It's about the position as it has been regarded over the years and chasing success with our team.

I will start with Romo.

Parcells had Sean Payton from the Giants come to Dallas when Parcells arrived. Rumor was that Payton was the next HC. Payton recruited Romo and he became a FA 4th string QB.

Instead the New Orleans job came and off Payton went along with Ireland.

Coach #1,Parcells, toughed it out and eventually Parcells had to sit Drew Bledsoe and start Romo. That marriage lasted a short while and one day, Parcells worried about Romo and his style of play being unpredictable and turnover prone.

Parcells called Romo "A Coach Killer".

The die was cast.

The first coach over Romo left, Parcells. You could say Payton was a second but I will not go that far. Payton wanted Brees.

Next, Phillips, Coach #2.. He had some success with Romo followed by a decline of the team.

Phillips was fired.

Romo survived but it became very apparent Romo the QB was the lead talent the team felt it must have.

Coach #3..Garrett took over. Three straight years of 8-8 followed along with rollercoaster years all over the map.

Dak replaced Romo.

Dak rose quickly initially then leveled off missing the playoffs twice in his first 4 season and only advancing past the first Rd. twice and no further.

Now Garrett is gone.

Up steps McCarthy..Coach #4.. It's way to early to say with Big Mike what is ahead.

But it's not too early to ask..

Are the QBs we ask to lead this team coach killers and just unable to win it all in the NFL?

Our QBs have gone thru Parcells, Phillips and Garrett as HCs. They are now on their 4th coach trying to win.

Is there any correlation with the fact that Romo was a FA and Dak is essentially a 4th Rd selection got any impact with the coaches failing?

Or is it just that we can not hire good HCs?

For us to break this downward spiral, do we just need to draft or trade for a top QB and move away from the bargain shopping at QB we always seem to do in the last 25 years.?

I know these questions will be to some slamming Romo and Dak.

But that is not my intent.

Is it really the coaching that is inferior or is it the QBs being assigned to the task.?

Ok..over to you.

We have plenty of time to discuss this.

BTW..T-shirts saying.." Coach Killer Walking" will be available at checkout. Just a little humor there.

Have a great weekend.

Our coaches kill themselves through their horrible schemes and play calls.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

We really need to make rules where certain posters can only make a thread every three days or so

 

[jazzcat22]

Rush killed Garrett. So yes.

 

[Redball Express]

Our coaches kill themselves through their horrible schemes and play calls.

Probably true.

They have not done well in the crunch for us.

And not been able to sustain anything for very long.

 

[DoctorChicken]

No

 

[Ranched]

Our coaches kill themselves through their horrible schemes and play calls.

Past presence.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Now do not freak out about asking this.

It's not another Dak thread.

It's about the position as it has been regarded over the years and chasing success with our team.

I will start with Romo.

Parcells had Sean Payton from the Giants come to Dallas when Parcells arrived. Rumor was that Payton was the next HC. Payton recruited Romo and he became a FA 4th string QB.

Instead the New Orleans job came and off Payton went along with Ireland.

Coach #1,Parcells, toughed it out and eventually Parcells had to sit Drew Bledsoe and start Romo. That marriage lasted a short while and one day, Parcells worried about Romo and his style of play being unpredictable and turnover prone.

Parcells called Romo "A Coach Killer".

The die was cast.

The first coach over Romo left, Parcells. You could say Payton was a second but I will not go that far. Payton wanted Brees.

Next, Phillips, Coach #2.. He had some success with Romo followed by a decline of the team.

Phillips was fired.

Romo survived but it became very apparent Romo the QB was the lead talent the team felt it must have.

Coach #3..Garrett took over. Three straight years of 8-8 followed along with rollercoaster years all over the map.

Dak replaced Romo.

Dak rose quickly initially then leveled off missing the playoffs twice in his first 4 season and only advancing past the first Rd. twice and no further.

Now Garrett is gone.

Up steps McCarthy..Coach #4.. It's way to early to say with Big Mike what is ahead.

But it's not too early to ask..

Are the QBs we ask to lead this team coach killers and just unable to win it all in the NFL?

Our QBs have gone thru Parcells, Phillips and Garrett as HCs. They are now on their 4th coach trying to win.

Is there any correlation with the fact that Romo was a FA and Dak is essentially a 4th Rd selection got any impact with the coaches failing?

Or is it just that we can not hire good HCs?

For us to break this downward spiral, do we just need to draft or trade for a top QB and move away from the bargain shopping at QB we always seem to do in the last 25 years.?

I know these questions will be to some slamming Romo and Dak.

But that is not my intent.

Is it really the coaching that is inferior or is it the QBs being assigned to the task.?

Ok..over to you.

We have plenty of time to discuss this.

BTW..T-shirts saying.." Coach Killer Walking" will be available at checkout. Just a little humor there.

Have a great weekend.

I would say its pretty obvious that our coaches have been QB killers, not the other way around.

Troll on!!!!

 

[CowboyRoy]

We really need to make rules where certain posters can only make a thread every three days or so

They need a Stupid thread forum. Its where people would go if they want to read this kind of drivel.

 

[ondaedg]

13-3 Dak very few turnovers.
8-8 Dak more turnovers than usual.

Turnovers can kill a drive and lose a game. As turnovers go up winning percentages go down. That's why Parcells called Romo a coach killer, turnovers.

Jameis Winston threw for the most yards last year and probably had the most turnovers too. Good QB play is not about compiling stats, it's about taking care of the ball.

Dak had one of the best td:int ratios in the league. Stop the nonsense please.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Is it really the coaching that is inferior or is it the QBs being assigned to the task.?.

The game had passed Parcells by.

Phillips is a good DC but not a good HC.

Garrett didn't get a new deal because it was obvious he isn't capable of consistently winning in January.

It all starts at the top. The HC calls all the shots.

And it's important to remember it's a team game. W-L records simply can't be put all on the QB.

 

[JBS]

You do know that our coaches have been franchise killers right?

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Dak had one of the best td:int ratios in the league. Stop the nonsense please.

Did he have more turnovers than our 13-3 campaign? Y-E-S.

More turnovers tend to lead to less victories.

So stop the nonsense of reading something I didn't write.

 

[Redball Express]

The game had passed Parcells by.

Phillips is a good DC but not a good HC.

Garrett didn't get a new deal because it was obvious he isn't capable of consistently winning in January.

It all starts at the top. The HC calls all the shots.

And it's important to remember it's a team game. W-L records simply can't be put all on the QB.

All good points.

I look at patterns.

Wondered if it makes any sense.

You have to realize all our World Titles were won by either Heisman Winner in Staubach..

or a #1 QB picked at the top of the draft in Aikman?

Right?

More coincidence or planned results there.?

 

[rags747]

Now do not freak out about asking this.

It's not another Dak thread.

It's about the position as it has been regarded over the years and chasing success with our team.

I will start with Romo.

Parcells had Sean Payton from the Giants come to Dallas when Parcells arrived. Rumor was that Payton was the next HC. Payton recruited Romo and he became a FA 4th string QB.

Instead the New Orleans job came and off Payton went along with Ireland.

Coach #1,Parcells, toughed it out and eventually Parcells had to sit Drew Bledsoe and start Romo. That marriage lasted a short while and one day, Parcells worried about Romo and his style of play being unpredictable and turnover prone.

Parcells called Romo "A Coach Killer".

The die was cast.

The first coach over Romo left, Parcells. You could say Payton was a second but I will not go that far. Payton wanted Brees.

Next, Phillips, Coach #2.. He had some success with Romo followed by a decline of the team.

Phillips was fired.

Romo survived but it became very apparent Romo the QB was the lead talent the team felt it must have.

Coach #3..Garrett took over. Three straight years of 8-8 followed along with rollercoaster years all over the map.

Dak replaced Romo.

Dak rose quickly initially then leveled off missing the playoffs twice in his first 4 season and only advancing past the first Rd. twice and no further.

Now Garrett is gone.

Up steps McCarthy..Coach #4.. It's way to early to say with Big Mike what is ahead.

But it's not too early to ask..

Are the QBs we ask to lead this team coach killers and just unable to win it all in the NFL?

Our QBs have gone thru Parcells, Phillips and Garrett as HCs. They are now on their 4th coach trying to win.

Is there any correlation with the fact that Romo was a FA and Dak is essentially a 4th Rd selection got any impact with the coaches failing?

Or is it just that we can not hire good HCs?

For us to break this downward spiral, do we just need to draft or trade for a top QB and move away from the bargain shopping at QB we always seem to do in the last 25 years.?

I know these questions will be to some slamming Romo and Dak.

But that is not my intent.

Is it really the coaching that is inferior or is it the QBs being assigned to the task.?

Ok..over to you.

We have plenty of time to discuss this.

BTW..T-shirts saying.." Coach Killer Walking" will be available at checkout. Just a little humor there.

Have a great weekend.

Show me that Quote by Parcells, would love to see it.

 

[Redball Express]

Show me that Quote by Parcells, would love to see it.

Search it yourself. Any longtime fans are aware of his remark.

Be my guest

I make it a rule to not do others research.

 

[Batman1980]

13-3 Dak very few turnovers.
8-8 Dak more turnovers than usual.

Turnovers can kill a drive and lose a game. As turnovers go up winning percentages go down. That's why Parcells called Romo a coach killer, turnovers.

Jameis Winston threw for the most yards last year and probably had the most turnovers too. Good QB play is not about compiling stats, it's about taking care of the ball.

The best QBs know how to take risks without actually turning the ball over. Brady, Brees(less so now) and A-Rod have all mastered this.

 

[Redball Express]

You do know that our coaches have been franchise killers right?

You can do that thread.

I'll comment.