Are there any speedy wr/pr ala Desean Jackson...

[Hostile]

We don't need speed. We're gonna implement your power running game instead.

This is my dream.

Which means it won't happen.

 

[ajk23az]

Johnnie Lee Higgin Jr.

No draft needed... we can trade dead weight to Oakland to get him. He's ready to EXPLODE!! Fast, good hands and a kick/punt returner to boot! He can easily replace Stanback and Hurd on the roster and open up a spot!!

He was Oaklands lone bright spot on offense last year. They aren't letting him go. I would not doubt he starts next year.

 

[lane]

Mardy Gilyard from Cincy Wildcats.

He has a chance to be special IMO.

that is a bad *** receiver/ kick returner right there.

even better personality...he lived out of his car for awhile i believe.

i love watching that young man play football.

 

[HanD]

Stretch the field?
Dont you have to give your QB time to throw the ball deep for that to work?
Our problem is teams are blitzing the crap out of us while jamming our receivers at the line. Then you have a QB running for him life.

The eagles give MnFlabb much more time.
By the time the receivers get 40 yards down the field Romo is either on his back or getting the ball smacked out of him hand from behind.

this madden hollywood type philosophy needs to stop. we don't need to be throwing the ball down the field. that's why romo gets hurt, our OL can't protect him in the first place. a power running game and a short passing game with occasional play action deep pass is exactly what we need. ala panthers/giants. this will

1. protect romo, limit him carrying the team on his shoulders and thus less pressure on him and less turnovers.
2. play to our strength which is a big OL mauling people. why have 340 lb OL if you want to pass all day down the field?
3. use our depth and talent at RB
4. grind and wear teams down by the end of the game.
5. get more guys in the box to stop the run.
6. let our WRs play to their strengths, let TO/WRRW catch crossing patterns/slants and get YAC.
7. keep defense fresh. too many times i watched our D play great only to tire our or finally give up the big play to the other team. run the ball, wear out the opposing D, and keep our guys fresh to make plays.

 

[cowboyjoe]

i posted this once, here you go again, speed surprises;
tDaddy.com --> Features --> Fast Guys

16 Day Two Prospects with Surprising Speed

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QB Tyler Lorenzen ~ Connecticut (4.54) -- Speed is excellent for a player his size (6045, 221), meaning he could be tried at H-back or wide receiver if things don't work out at quarterback. Currently suffering from a leg injury.

RB Devin Moore ~ Wyoming (4.41) -- Not real big at 5' 9", 185 pounds, but is lightning quick. Prototypical scatback prospect, who can do good things with limited touches (running and receiving) and help as a kick returner.

RB Shun White ~ Navy (4.41) -- Super productive, 5' 8", 185 pounder, who could make it at the next level (N.F.L. or C.F.L.) due to his above average speed, great quickness and toughness. Military obligations, however, will likely mean he goes undrafted.

RB Stanley Zwinggi ~ Texas State (4.36) -- Played in the 2004 U.S. Army All-American Bowl with many of the elite prospects in the nation. Some fans in the Lone Star state think he could be a faster version of Wes Welker, but he hasn't had the great college career Wes had.

WR Shawn Bayes ~ Kent State (4.35) -- Not real big (5096, 177) and wasn't much of an impact player his first three seasons in college, but has really come on as a big play threat for Kent State as a senior.

WR Chris Williams ~ New Mexico State (4.40) -- Very prolific receiver in Hal Mumme's high powered offense, but his slight build (5' 7", 153) will likely mean he'll have to make a N.F.L. team as a return specialist.

WR Dominique Edison ~ Stephen F. Austin (4.42) -- Former high school track star is a big target (6' 2", 190) with lots of experience, surprising speed and reliable hands. Type of athlete that can really look outstanding at a Pro Day.

WR Kole Heckendorf ~ North Dakota State (4.44) -- Another player that possesses decent size (6016, 188) and excellent speed. Has had a great career for the Bisons. Ex-Hockey player, so he's definitely not scared of physical contact.

WR Quinten Lawrence ~ McNeese State (4.35) -- Currently considered a very solid latter round N.F.L. prospect by scouts, but could move up into the 3rd or 4th round area with a great Combine showing. 5' 11", 180 pound F.C.S. star is currently nursing a lower leg injury.

TE Jameson Konz ~ Kent State ( 4.38) -- Amazingly, Kent asked this 6' 3" speedster to bulk up and play linebacker for three years. Finally moved to offense (H-Back/receiver) last spring, but he was injured early this season and redshirted. Will be fascinating to see if he re-emerges as a solid pro prospect in 2009 or just fades away?

DE Connor Barwin ~ Cincinnati (4.63) -- Ex-Bearcats' hoopster has nice speed for a 6' 4', 253 pound athlete. Former tight end has the frame to add a few pounds and play defensive end and the agility to slim down and play linebacker at the next level. Fantastic special teams player.

CB Sherrod Martin ~ Troy (4.46) -- In recent years Troy has produced some excellent defensive back prospects (McKelvin, Mack, Condren). Martin, who has nice size (6005, 190) and ample athletic ability, as well as fellow Trojan defensive back Terrance Moore are both on radar of N.F.L. scouts.

CB Ryan Mouton ~ Hawaii (4.40) -- Mouton, who is only 5'9" and 180 pounds, is a top notch cornerback for the Warriors, who doesn't mind hitting people. But it's his ability as a kick returner that will get him a longer look from N.F.L. scouts.

CB Domonique Johnson ~ Jackson State (4.37) -- Nice combination of size (6015, 185) and speed for this ex-Missouri Tiger. If he shows well in all-star games and workouts, he should be selected in 2009 N.F.L. draft.

CB Jamar Love ~ Arkansas (4.42) -- Nice sized corner (6001, 195) wasn't highly ranked by scouts going into the season because he was mostly a backup the last few seasons, but could significantly improve his draft stock if he can quickly bounce back from thumb injury and play well.

FS Tom Nelson ~ Illinois State (4.47) -- Pretty good speed for a nice-sized safety (5' 11", 195) that's widely regarded as a "overachiever". Prolific punt returner, who intercepted University of Missouri star Chase Daniel twice in 2007.

DD.comment: All the 40 times, heights and weights we listed above came directly from N.F.L. sources. Despite the great 40 times, all 16 prospects entered this season with latter round or free agent projections from league scouts, but have the potential to move upwards by draft day. Also, it's very important to note that there is no guarantee that these players will duplicate these gaudy 40 times in the future, particularly if they run on different tracks or run in different weather conditions.

 

[burmafrd]

Jackson had a fine first year no doubt. But before some morons here put him in the HOF lets see if he can stand up to the pounding for 2-3 more years.
There is a reason small WRs do not last long in the NFL with a few notable exceptions. I am NOT convinced that Jackson is one of them.

 

[Rockytop6]

Seems no one ever wants to take a guy like this. It's always the same...too small, too slight, all speed, not tough enough.

So when the time comes, we always pass on someone that could be the perfect compliment to our big #1 WR, whose mere presence could stretch the field and give immediate big play possibilities, along with KO & PR capabilities (not so much a problem now with Felix).

I didn't want Desean Jackson but now I sure wish we had drafted him.

 

[juck]

LOL. Where did you get that sig pic, juckie?

What about that Mike Wallace from the Senior Bowl yesterday? He absolutely torched that guy on a fly route. I know nothing about his hands or quickness, though.

lol.found it on google.

 

[Muhast]

CB Ryan Mouton ~ Hawaii (4.40) -- Mouton, who is only 5'9" and 180 pounds, is a top notch cornerback for the Warriors, who doesn't mind hitting people. But it's his ability as a kick returner that will get him a longer look from N.F.L. scouts.

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He will run better than a 4.4. I went to Blinn with him. Played football there. This kid can fly.

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

Louis Murphy is the name. Go take a peak at him over at nfldraftcountdown.com this guy is 6'3 and a burner.

 

[EPL0c0]

we have a need at WR? easily the deepest position on the team not counting RB. and i'm glad we don't have that little punk biotch dj. can't stand him. his celebrating antics and trash talking a coach during a game...exactly what we don't need around here. pass.

there's a difference. Barber, Jones and Choice are all possibly capable of being starters.

Because we have bodies listed as WRs doesn't mean we necessarily have quality depth. Hurd just hasn't developed IMO (shows flashes but not enough to even warrent a #4 spot now). Stanback is a project-gone-nowhere. Austin...has shown potential but limited by injuries this year (worth keeping). Owens and RoyE are the only proven products at WR.

This team could use another 1 or 2 QUALITY WRs. They don't have to be superstars, just have to be able to contribute when called upon.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

there's a difference. Barber, Jones and Choice are all possibly capable of being starters.

Because we have bodies listed as WRs doesn't mean we necessarily have quality depth. Hurd just hasn't developed IMO (shows flashes but not enough to even warrent a #4 spot now). Stanback is a project-gone-nowhere. Austin...has shown potential but limited by injuries this year (worth keeping). Owens and RoyE are the only proven products at WR.

This team could use another 1 or 2 QUALITY WRs. They don't have to be superstars, just have to be able to contribute when called upon.

I actually think we could use Johnnie Lee or a player like him. We need that burner WR that just runs flys and lets Witten and Roy catch the underneath stuff. Hopefully when we get rid of TO, Jerry will get someone like this. He can also be a punt returner that we so desperatly need and return kickoffs too. Our return game would be from whacked to stacked with johnny!! If i see Crayton returning any more punts, I might have to kick myself in the nads.

Hey EPLOCO..whats a reasonable asking price to pry Johnnie Lee from Oakland? I'm from the Bay and watch some Raider games and he flyyyyyyss.

 

[EPL0c0]

I actually think we could use Johnnie Lee or a player like him. We need that burner WR that just runs flys and lets Witten and Roy catch the underneath stuff. Hopefully when we get rid of TO, Jerry will get someone like this. He can also be a punt returner that we so desperatly need and return kickoffs too. Our return game would be from whacked to stacked with johnny!! If i see Crayton returning any more punts, I might have to kick myself in the nads.

Hey EPLOCO..whats a reasonable asking price to pry Johnnie Lee from Oakland? I'm from the Bay and watch some Raider games and he flyyyyyyss.

I have no clue. My cousins live up that way and are huge Raiders fans and they said they love him. "He electrifies the crowd and the players" is what he tells me everytime we talk football.

I think Oakland has seen him as a returner and juuust started to get a glimpse of him as a receiver toward the end of the year.

Last 4 games (@SD, NE, HOU, @TB):
14rec 196yds (14yd avg) 3TDs

Despite not having a big contract, I dunno if Oakland would be inclined to deal him b/c of the potential he has shown. He'd be pricey: Owens for Higgins straight up??

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I have no clue. My cousins live up that way and are huge Raiders fans and they said they love him. "He electrifies the crowd and the players" is what he tells me everytime we talk football.

I think Oakland has seen him as a returner and juuust started to get a glimpse of him as a receiver toward the end of the year.

Last 4 games (@SD, NE, HOU, @TB):
14rec 196yds (14yd avg) 3TDs

Despite not having a big contract, I dunno if Oakland would be inclined to deal him b/c of the potential he has shown. He'd be pricey: Owens for Higgins straight up??

:laugh2: I'm sooo down!!

 

[ndanger]

Juaquin Iglesias .

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Juaquin Iglesias .

He isnt a burner though..I don't think?? he seems like a possesion reciever and not really a down hill threat. Plus he'll probably be gone by round 4 and I'll be pissed if we take a reciever before then

 

[dallasfaniac]

What about that Mike Wallace from the Senior Bowl yesterday? He absolutely torched that guy on a fly route. I know nothing about his hands or quickness, though.

I like him as well and now it looks like he might start climbing (was listed as 7th-FA)

He got better each year, although he struggled a bit at the beginning of last year under Nutt. WR coach Dickerson rode him hard, made him a leader and worked on his game. 1st round WRs pulling out of the Senior Bowl might have raised his stock considerably.

 

[HanD]

there's a difference. Barber, Jones and Choice are all possibly capable of being starters.

Because we have bodies listed as WRs doesn't mean we necessarily have quality depth. Hurd just hasn't developed IMO (shows flashes but not enough to even warrent a #4 spot now). Stanback is a project-gone-nowhere. Austin...has shown potential but limited by injuries this year (worth keeping). Owens and RoyE are the only proven products at WR.

This team could use another 1 or 2 QUALITY WRs. They don't have to be superstars, just have to be able to contribute when called upon.

so hurd and stanback aren't quality players. how many teams have their #5 or #6 wr as QUALITY guys? we still have owens, williams, crayton and austin. that's deeper than a majority of teams out there. your 5th and 6th are supposed to be special teams players that can contribute every once in a while. that's exactly what we have. the original topic was about getting a burner to stretch the field. we don't need that IMO. we need to pound the ball instead of forcing it downfield and putting it all on romo's shoulders.

 

[jswalker1981]

this madden hollywood type philosophy needs to stop. we don't need to be throwing the ball down the field. that's why romo gets hurt, our OL can't protect him in the first place. a power running game and a short passing game with occasional play action deep pass is exactly what we need. ala panthers/giants. this will

1. protect romo, limit him carrying the team on his shoulders and thus less pressure on him and less turnovers.
2. play to our strength which is a big OL mauling people. why have 340 lb OL if you want to pass all day down the field?
3. use our depth and talent at RB
4. grind and wear teams down by the end of the game.
5. get more guys in the box to stop the run.
6. let our WRs play to their strengths, let TO/WRRW catch crossing patterns/slants and get YAC.
7. keep defense fresh. too many times i watched our D play great only to tire our or finally give up the big play to the other team. run the ball, wear out the opposing D, and keep our guys fresh to make plays.

I totally agree with everything. But it wouldn't hurt to have someone that can cause headaches when on the field. Just to have a quick guy on the team that can get deep fast would be great. Whether it is Austin or someone else.

 

[daboys79]

OMG I really can't believe no one has mentioned

Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri

2nd best rec. in the draft behind Crabtree.