Are we really that surprised?

LandryFan

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I really want to be enthused by this, but I just can't imagine a rookie playing in his first game ever will help us make a 180 in the pass rushing department.

I really hope I'm wrong though.

And losing Durant really sucks. Hitchens or Wilbur, pick your poison. Ugh.

Agree. I will consider it a success if he can get 3 sacks on the year. Four, or more...call Canton!
 

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Skins almost beat the Eagles, and very well could have. What was inexplicable for us was losing 45-14 at home to the Giants 4 days later.

I agree though, we are a bad team right now. But if we win the next 2 after this then I may get a twinge of hope.

Skins losing to the Giants? Yeah, that was because of Cousins' turnovers, and that'll do it to you.
 
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But it appears to be hard to play like that every week.

Agree, our defensive success depends on extraordinary effort,,, they have to play above there heads every week and I doubt they can maintain that kind of intensity.
 

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I think it was one of those night. I think people here will get carried away with wins and clearly get carried away with a loss. Dallas lost we are now 6-2 on the season. Dallas had been picking up blitzes in past games and tackling much better than they did last night however last night they failed. I just hope the team handles it better than the fans. Some have been waiting to go on their rants and here is their chance.

Absolutely. Last night put a damper on the 6 week high we had been on, but if you had told me at the beginning of the season (particularly after the opening game loss) that we'd be 6-2 at this point, I wouldn't have believed you. This league is too even to get overly up or down over one game.
 

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Absolutely. Last night put a damper on the 6 week high we had been on, but if you had told me at the beginning of the season (particularly after the opening game loss) that we'd be 6-2 at this point, I wouldn't have believed you. This league is too even to get overly up or down over one game.

So because you beat the Texans, the Seahawks in Seattle, and the Giants, ... it's ok to lose to a 2-5 team at home?

No, .. that's where you should pad your record.
 

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The Eagles are playing the Texans this Sunday. My boy JJ had a great game last week.

I'm hoping that mojo continues & Foles has a horrible game.
 

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One thing that bothers me is the fact that the skins had lost 8 division games in a row, I believe. They haven't been able to beat any division teams no matter who the starting QB was. Then we fall flat on our face and give them the game. I had hoped that we would show up ready to play and not take this team lightly. By the end of the game you could see it in the players, as much as it pains me to say, that as a whole, they just wanted it more. Not unlike the Seahawks game, they came into our house and soundly beat us. The scoreboard might not show it, but we all saw it. Hopefully this will act as a wake-up call for both players and coaches for the upcoming games. Gotta learn from your mistakes.
 

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I have to hand it to him, Steve Dennis absolutely nailed this game yesterday. He actually turned my head with some of his comments. This was a Commanders team that had been beaten by turnovers. They'd benched the QB who was responsible for most of the problem. They have a pair of outstanding WRs and the ability to run the ball. This game was a watershed game for their season (it was important to us, too, but not for the same reasons), and they had Haslett and the commitment to blitz up the middle. Plus, it's Cowboys/Commanders. Anybody with even passing familiarity with this league ought to know what that means. These games always come down to the last possession, and it did again last night. We lost. The measure of the team is how or whether we overcome adversity, not the ability to avoid adversity. This is the NFL.

We lost this game by turning the ball over twice. By Dez's end zone drop. By WItten's OT drop that would have extended the drive. It wasn't play calling. It wasn't a sign of the organization not having learned. We lost for the same reasons we always lose games, and for the same reasons almost every team in the league loses games.

What I'm sick about, though, is the loss of Durant. And he was playing his absolutely best football of the season. That's going to hurt us down the road a lot more than a close home loss to a division rival.

Great post, Idg.
 

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So because you beat the Texans, the Seahawks in Seattle, and the Giants, ... it's ok to lose to a 2-5 team at home?

No, .. that's where you should pad your record.

I never said it's "OK" to lose to anybody, much less a 2-5 team. I just said, based on preseason expectations of this team by most people, 6-2 is good. 7-1 would be better. Before the season began, what did you feel their record would be at the halfway point of the season (or whole season, for that matter)?
 

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I never said it's "OK" to lose to anybody, much less a 2-5 team. I just said, based on preseason expectations of this team by most people, 6-2 is good. 7-1 would be better. Before the season began, what did you feel their record would be at the halfway point of the season (or whole season, for that matter)?

I'm not into preseason predictions, .. but when we were 6-1 and playing a 2-5 team I would think we could expect to be 7-1. That is if we are as good as we thought we were.

Big picture, I hear you, .. 6-2 is good. But not when you had a great opportunity to be 7-1.

That's what I meant when I asked, .. if you win enough games does that make it ok to lose when you shouldn't just because your record remains good?

The answer is no.
 

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I'm not into preseason predictions, .. but when we were 6-1 and playing a 2-5 team I would think we could expect to be 7-1. That is if we are as good as we thought we were.

Big picture, I hear you, .. 6-2 is good. But not when you had a great opportunity to be 7-1.

That's what I meant when I asked, .. if you win enough games does that make it ok to lose when you shouldn't just because your record remains good?

The answer is no.

Agreed.
 

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It happens guys. Division games are brutal sometimes, regardless of record. We all know this.

With that said, I think we kill the Cardinals next week.

Agree on both points. In the ESPN pregame every single person picked the Cowboys and it really surprised me no one went with the Commanders exactly because Division games are always tight. Then when the game started I started to get the sinking feeling we could lose as soon as I saw McCoy had complete command of their offense. Dallas shoulda, coulda played better and won, but nothing from yesterday was surprising.
 

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So because you beat the Texans, the Seahawks in Seattle, and the Giants, ... it's ok to lose to a 2-5 team at home?

No, .. that's where you should pad your record.

Will not speak for him but I will say it is not alright but it is football and teams will have nights like this I wish there were not nights or days like this but as long as I have been watching the Cowboys this is far from the 1st time that this happened, even the great Landry teams. Losing is not ok what is more important now is how you respond after a loss such as this.
 

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Losing is not ok what is more important now is how you respond after a loss such as this.

Totally agree with this.

My thing is, .. over my 25 seasons of coaching, I always took great pride in not losing to teams that were not as good as us. I just could never stomach losing to a team that I thought we shouldn't lose to.

I guess that is what drives my feelings toward losing to a 2-5 team, .. skins or not.

This past summer I was coaching an All Star team that won our State Championship. We went to North Carolina to play in the Southeast Regional Tournament of State Champions.

We beat South Carolina and Georgia, and then lost 7-6 to Florida in pool play.
We then lost to North Carolina in the semi-final game.
North Carolina beat Florida in the Championship game.
So even though we never ever like losing, or accept losing, ... losing to the two best teams, and being eliminated by the eventual Champions is something I can live with. Don't like it but I can live with it because it happens.

Losing to 2-5 team will always get way under my skin as a coach.
 
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Admittedly I actually had some high hopes for this game, but historically, the Commanders usually play us tight.

Just know that we lost to the Commanders in each of our Super Bowl seasons in the 90's (twice in 1995).

It happens guys. Division games are brutal sometimes, regardless of record. We all know this.

With that said, I think we kill the Cardinals next week.

Anyone who followed my posts the past few days knows I wasn't surprised by last nights loss. I was very concerned about this game and expected a dogfight. Naturally many scoffed and argued that this would be an easy win for the Cowboys most were picking blowouts. :cool: I knew if the Cowboys committed turnovers and weren't focused they would lose. There's no positive spins you can put on this loss this was a game the Cowboys were suppose to win and should have won. Just like in previous seasons this another game that could come back to haunt the Cowboys at the end of the season. The Commanders were a 2 win team that had several players out on defense including their top corner and were playing with their 3rd string QB who hadn't started a game in 3 years.

Just like last season the Cowboys defense allowed an average QB to have a career game and they allowed it at home in front of a National audience. With the lack of a pass rush and Durant out for the season the defense could start to crumble. With Romo injuring his back again who knows how long he'll hold up. Although the 95 team lost to Washington twice that season that was a proven Cowboys team that had 2 recent SB wins under their belt. That was a team that was starting to come down not a team on the rise. This Cowboys team is a team that still has a lot to prove.

Their 6-1 start came as a surprise to everyone and last night they once again like on opening day looked like the bad/mediocre team that everyone was predicting they would be prior to the start of the season. The defense looked like last years unit missing tackles and unable to make plays in critical situations. The Cowboys have lost twice at home this season and continue not to have a home field advantage. Last nights loss is the kind that could derail what has been a great season. We're going to find out next week where the Cowboys are mentally because they'll be facing a very solid AZ team and back to back losses at home may cause the wheels to come off this team.
 

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Totally agree with this.

My thing is, .. over my 25 seasons of coaching, I always took great pride in not losing to teams that were not as good as us. I just could never stomach losing to a team that I thought we shouldn't lose to.

I guess that is what drives my feelings toward losing to a 2-5 team, .. skins or not.

This past summer I was coaching an All Star team that won our State Championship. We went to North Carolina to play in the Southeast Regional Tournament of State Champions.

We beat South Carolina and Georgia, and then lost 7-6 to Florida in pool play.
We then lost to North Carolina in the semi-final game.
North Carolina beat Florida in the Championship game.
So even though we never ever like losing, or accept losing, ... losing to the two best teams, and being eliminated by the eventual Champions is something I can live with. Don't like it but I can live with it because it happens.

Losing to 2-5 team will always get way under my skin as a coach.

Well this is the NFL with professional some highly draft players who are capable of winning. GB should have ripped NO did not happen and there will be other games in the NFL where people will scratch their heads when the game is over. It happens and as much as I hate that it did, all any team can do is review it, learn from it and move on to the next. Dallas is sitting a 6-2 and if they want to get to 7-2 this weekend they need to regroup and get themselves ready.
 

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I'm surprised. Very surprised. The defense forgot all the fundamentals and the offense went pass happy. The 2 things that got us to that 6 game winning streak. It looked like 2013 all over again and I thought we were past that.
 

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I am surprised to a degree.

For some reason I thought it was going to be the giants game that we lost and not the skins game but I in no way thought the skins game was going to be a gimme. I figured both would be very close and not a blow out like many were thinking. We typically play close games with the giants and the skins rivalry has shown that even the down team that year can beat the better team.

So I am surprised as I thought we would have lost last week and won this one but not surprised that we would have at least lost one.

If that makes sense.
 

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Admittedly I actually had some high hopes for this game, but historically, the Commanders usually play us tight.

Just know that we lost to the Commanders in each of our Super Bowl seasons in the 90's (twice in 1995).

It happens guys. Division games are brutal sometimes, regardless of record. We all know this.

With that said, I think we kill the Cardinals next week.

I told Mrs CCF we were giving the game away BUT that it was the Commanders' SB. The way they were jumping around etc at 2-5 was pitiful.
 
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