Are we witnessing another Miles Austin situation here?

[atlantacowboy]

Yes we do. But, money plays in Dallas. He's back to the bench when Lamb returns.

 

[RonnieT24]

Just to make sure we're on the same page: You are talking this Cedrick Wilson, right? If so, this bum's only eclipsed 300 yards in one season out of 6 year pedestrian career. See? That's why I comparing that JAG Tolbert to Wilson. They are both clearly JAGs that fill out the bottom of the roster. They aren't 1s or 2s. Gallop and Cooper ALWAYS started above him - no question. Injuries happen, but Wilson was a stiff 4.55 JAG and his stats prove it.

Can anyone else weigh in on this? I mean... one of us is lost here.


Click the link I posted, look at the number, not your feelings here, and tell me this Cedric Wilson Jr is miles above Tolbert? I mean NOPE. They're both JAGs, but you're talking like Wilson was some freak athlete compared to Tolbert when he posted 1,480 career yards in 6 seasons and hung 'em up. I mean 4 of those years are 17 game seasons, bro. What you're saying just don't add up proper.

Now show me your stats, player. And how you felt about the player doesn't count on the stats sheet!

I have to agree that Wilson brought a lot more to the table than Tolbert. And I like Tolbert.. And he played a lot faster than 4.55. But he was a long strider who didn't heat up until he had been running a while. Still he had a number of plays where he flat ran away from DBs once he got the ball under his arm. Something I've yet to see Tolbert do. Wilson also came with that threat of the end around pass which always kept defenses on their toes. Stats simply don't come close to telling his whole story... but yeah. the injury bug was his constant companion and seemingly still is as he is apparently on IR with the Phins this year.

 

[StarW]

I have to agree that Wilson brought a lot more to the table than Tolbert. And I like Tolbert.. And he played a lot faster than 4.55. But he was a long strider who didn't heat up until he had been running a while. Still he had a number of plays where he flat ran away from DBs once he got the ball under his arm. Something I've yet to see Tolbert do. Wilson also came with that threat of the end around pass which always kept defenses on their toes. Stats simply don't come close to telling his whole story... but yeah. the injury bug was his constant companion and seemingly still is as he is apparently on IR with the Phins this year.

I remember him having those big plays in year 3, but that was the anomaly. He never did shizzle outside that 602 yard season in 2021 (year 3). As far as injuries go: He played in at least 15-16 games per season every year but his first year, so I think you are just a little nostalgic concerning Cedrick Wilson.

And I don't have anything against him. I was also rooting for him and was glad he got paid when he went to Miami. We paid Gallop, because he was better at the time.

Anyways, my point in the initial conversation was that like Wilson, Tolbert's the odd man out simply because we've got Flournoy, Holden, and Mingo to replace his #3 reps and to round out the top 5 WR. They are expendable players, because they're both JAGs when it comes to NFL football.

 

[mmohican29]

Cedric Wilson had excellent physical traits. Tolbert does not. You do not become more agile and quick just because you want to.

Exactly. I'm not pro scout. But I do know this:

I don't think Tolbert has the twitch needed to be a + WR in the league.

He just has a lethargy to his game, and it's not because he's a smooth athlete either.

Again: Tolbert is NOT a bad player: Just not potentially exceptional.

 

[EPL0c0]

"Put away the anointing oils" -- Bill Parcells

 

[Catpappy]

Austin was Miles better

 

[Reid1boys]

And with Lamb back, yowza.

More Lamb in the slot and in motion, with Flournoy and Pickens isolating wide.

then throw in Turpin if you are using 4wrs. I do not watch the college game, so I had no clue what Flournoy could possibly do. But I di know what Pickens could do. I am on record prior to the season predicting an 80 catch, 1200 yard, 8td season for Pickens. I think the catches and Tds are a no brainer. Now, if Flournoy busts out and is an actual weapon...... wow do we have a dynamic offense.

 

[buybuydandavis]

then throw in Turpin if you are using 4wrs.

Turpin is a nice complement to the others. Brings things they don't, just as they bring things he doesn't.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Miles Austin had Robocop hips. Flournoy has much more agility to go with his speed.

Miles had one bit of elite agility - he could stop his momentum hard.

 

[kskboys]

Miles had one bit of elite agility - he could stop his momentum hard.

So accurate.

Don't know as I've ever seen any player who could be running full speed, stop on a dime, then come back.

 

[Reid1boys]

Turpin is a nice complement to the others. Brings things they don't, just as they bring things he doesn't.

I like Turpin a lot. Hes explosive and he has good hands. in a 4wr set that includes Lamb, Pickens and Flournoy..... he could be very dangerous.

 

[Paperbag]

Remember, it took an injury to Roy Williams to finally give Austin a chance as a starter. The Cowboys didn't know what they had until it got forced on them.

I can't help but wonder that this might be the same case with another #19 in Flournoy. Lamb's out. Tolbert hasn't stepped up. Mingo isn't ready. Flournoy, you're up. A guy they cut and put on the practice squad a month ago. That's how much they thought of him. Only mentioning his strong special teams play, just like they used to do with Austin.

It was one game but he looked really good. Like this is not a fluke good.

I'll be interested to see if this has changed his perception with the same front office that couldn't recognize what they had in Austin and what they might have in Flournoy and whether Flournoy can keep Miles Austin-ing the opportunities given to him.

Funny I was thinking the same thing
Only time will tell