Are we witnessing another Miles Austin situation here?

[buybuydandavis]

Remember, it took an injury to Roy Williams to finally give Austin a chance as a starter. The Cowboys didn't know what they had until it got forced on them.

I can't help but wonder that this might be the same case with another #19 in Flournoy. Lamb's out. Tolbert hasn't stepped up. Mingo isn't ready. Flournoy, you're up. A guy they cut and put on the practice squad a month ago. That's how much they thought of him. Only mentioning his strong special teams play, just like they used to do with Austin.

It was one game but he looked really good. Like this is not a fluke good.

I'll be interested to see if this has changed his perception with the same front office that couldn't recognize what they had in Austin and what they might have in Flournoy and whether Flournoy can keep Miles Austin-ing the opportunities given to him.

Relative Athletic Score (RAS) is listed as 9.89. Half dozen at the top at ~9.9.
Cowboys love the Sparqies. Really working out this time.

 

[Risen Star]

Yeah I remember a lot of soft tissue injuries with Miles and he refused the deep tissue work for the myofacisal release.

Myofacisal releases are so important.

 

[buybuydandavis]

With Pickens having a safety shade to his side most of the time. Any secondary WR on this team will get 1on1 coverage. Its up to the player to take advantage of the opportunity. Flounoy is doing that and Dak feeling comfortable going to him to make a play

And with Lamb back, yowza.

More Lamb in the slot and in motion, with Flournoy and Pickens isolating wide.

 

[Risen Star]

No ....... i think he is just a good football player who finally got his chance ......kudos to Dak for continually going to the kid.

They released a guy a month ago that just had 100 yards receiving in the first half.

It has a Miles Austin smell to it.

 

[Scotman]

I met Miles.

Miles was a BIG dude. 6'2 or so? And jacked. Also: a super nice person, shockingly classy and engaging.

I never met him, but I talked to Babe Laufenberg about him. Babe was a huge fan before I had ever heard of Austin. He told me to keep my eyes open. He said he had a work ethic that was unparalleled. Babe thought he had the potential to be a star.

 

[Cowboyny]

Good Post, that's right Dallas would have the wide receiver room set for a while. The draft then can be used to strengthen this defense come April.

You would think if Pickens leaves, they would have no choice but use another 1st rd pick at the position. Much rather keep those high picks on defense

 

[kskboys]

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Tolbert knows this is prob his last year reppin' the star. Hopefully, he gets a little bag somewhere like Cedric Wilson did in Miami or wherever he went.

Cedric Wilson had excellent physical traits. Tolbert does not. You do not become more agile and quick just because you want to.

 

[deerhunter11]

You would think if Pickens leaves, they would have no choice but use another 1st rd pick at the position. Much rather keep those high picks on defense

I think the right move would be to extend Pickens, Dallas knows what kind of player he is.Then concentrate on the draft to rebuild this defense. CB LB DT S DE .

 

[kskboys]

Yep. When Mingo gets healthy we should let him and Holden battle it out to take Tolbert's spot. That prob gives us both a little more attitude and finesse in the corps than we have rolling with Tolbert. I hate to bag on him, but we've got high upside guys we need to be grooming to replace him.

But for now Turpin and Flournoy need to be getting all the #3 reps once Lamb is back in the fold. Dak needs these boys wide open.

I have yet to see anything from Mingo that suggests he should be on an NFL roster. He's an underwear olympics winner who, up to this point, can't play football.

 

[deerhunter11]

I thought we lost Mingo next year, but you're right, we have him through 2026. So if we keep Pickens, him, Lamb, Turpin, Flournoy and Mingo is looking pretty deep. And that's without knowing how Holden might develop.

Dallas has put together what looks to be a strong group of wide receivers. I feel optimistic about all 6 of those listed in your post. Lamb and Pickens can mentor this young group, Dallas is on the rise.

 

[kskboys]

Dallas has put together what looks to be a strong group of wide receivers. I feel optimistic about all 6 of those listed in your post. Lamb and Pickens can mentor this young group, Dallas is on the rise.

Don't see it. We desperately need a #3 to emerge. Hope it's Flo, because I haven't seen much from either Mingo or Tolbert. Turpin is too lightly built to take the pounding of a higher number of catches.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Cedric Wilson had excellent physical traits. Tolbert does not. You do not become more agile and quick just because you want to.

Just for comparison to Flournoy...

https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=20974&ovl=Cowboys

 

[deerhunter11]

Don't see it. We desperately need a #3 to emerge. Hope it's Flo, because I haven't seen much from either Mingo or Tolbert. Turpin is too lightly built to take the pounding of a higher number of catches.

All eyes on Flournoy against Carolina this week, let's see if he can have another good showing. He looked the part last week he looked like receiver 3.

 

[Proof]

Miles Austin had Robocop hips. Flournoy has much more agility to go with his speed.

robocop hips is a hilarious phrase / visual

 

[Cowboyny]

I think the right move would be to extend Pickens, Dallas knows what kind of player he is.Then concentrate on the draft to rebuild this defense. CB LB DT S DE .

I think Edge, Linebacker, Safety is any order are our priority needs at this time. Corner could join the this. Also, still need better depth at the NT spot.

 

[StarW]

I have yet to see anything from Mingo that suggests he should be on an NFL roster. He's an underwear olympics winner who, up to this point, can't play football.

Yeah, I agree Mingo hasn't done anything in the league, but he came in raw and got 418 receiving yards his rookie year in 2023. And he still has more upside than Tolbert. Tolbert didn't get over 300 yards until last year (his 3rd year in the league).

But you clearly missed my point here, which I'll reiterate: Flournoy, Holden, and potentially Mingo ALL have higher ceilings than Tolbert. Tolbert has likely peaked here in year 4. And the WR room is becoming a strength in 2025.

And about Cedrick Wilson: to be clear Tolbert had a 8.55 RAS coming out, while Wilson had 6.88, so you're mightily mistaken about your Wilson vs Tolbert comparison. In fact, it's the complete opposite of what you have suggested.

You better check the stats before you come at me, son! I love data, especially when on-field tape reflects said data (like in the case of Flournoy and unlike the tape on Tolbert).

 

[jrumann59]

As long as he does not have the Miles Austin Hamstrings.

 

[gimmesix]

Dallas has put together what looks to be a strong group of wide receivers. I feel optimistic about all 6 of those listed in your post. Lamb and Pickens can mentor this young group, Dallas is on the rise.

It is shaping up to be one of our top position groups. We'll see how that develops. Honestly, as much as I love Turpin and want him used, I think we can see what extended use might mean to him injurywise, so it would be great if someone like Flournoy emerges to where not having Turpin on the field puts us at a disadvantage ... and I do believe any time Tolbert plays instead of Turpin is a disadvantage.

 

[kskboys]

Yeah, I agree Mingo hasn't done anything in the league, but he came in raw and got 418 receiving yards his rookie year in 2023. And he still has more upside than Tolbert. Tolbert didn't get over 300 yards until last year (his 3rd year in the league).

But you clearly missed my point here, which I'll reiterate: Flournoy, Holden, and potentially Mingo ALL have higher ceilings than Tolbert. Tolbert has likely peaked here in year 4. And the WR room is becoming a strength in 2025.

And about Cedrick Wilson: to be clear Tolbert had a 8.55 RAS coming out, while Wilson had 6.88, so you're mightily mistaken about your Wilson vs Tolbert comparison. In fact, it's the complete opposite of what you have suggested.

You better check the stats before you come at me, son! I love data, especially when on-field tape reflects said data (like in the case of Flournoy and unlike the tape on Tolbert).

I already did, son. Better check your facts before you come at me w/ that son BS!!!!!!!!

Wilson was fast and agile, simply not built for the NFL. Kept getting hurt.

Tolbert is not all that fast and completely lacks agility. Better do your homework before you come at me w/ that RAS stuff, which is obviously wrong comparing Tolbert and Wilson!!!!

Agree that those 3 have higher ceilings than Tolbert. Tolbert was never going to be more than a bottom of the roster type player. Shouldn't have wasted a 3rd on him.

Mingo is a physical specimen who simply cannot play football. Not sure he has any upside aside from being a freak physically.

 

[StarW]

I already did, son. Better check your facts before you come at me w/ that son BS!!!!!!!!

Wilson was fast and agile, simply not built for the NFL. Kept getting hurt.

Tolbert is not all that fast and completely lacks agility. Better do your homework before you come at me w/ that RAS stuff, which is obviously wrong comparing Tolbert and Wilson!!!!

Agree that those 3 have higher ceilings than Tolbert. Tolbert was never going to be more than a bottom of the roster type player. Shouldn't have wasted a 3rd on him.

Mingo is a physical specimen who simply cannot play football. Not sure he has any upside aside from being a freak physically.

Just to make sure we're on the same page: You are talking this Cedrick Wilson, right? If so, this bum's only eclipsed 300 yards in one season out of 6 year pedestrian career. See? That's why I comparing that JAG Tolbert to Wilson. They are both clearly JAGs that fill out the bottom of the roster. They aren't 1s or 2s. Gallop and Cooper ALWAYS started above him - no question. Injuries happen, but Wilson was a stiff 4.55 JAG and his stats prove it.

Can anyone else weigh in on this? I mean... one of us is lost here.


Click the link I posted, look at the number, not your feelings here, and tell me this Cedric Wilson Jr is miles above Tolbert? I mean NOPE. They're both JAGs, but you're talking like Wilson was some freak athlete compared to Tolbert when he posted 1,480 career yards in 6 seasons and hung 'em up. I mean 4 of those years are 17 game seasons, bro. What you're saying just don't add up proper.

Now show me your stats, player. And how you felt about the player doesn't count on the stats sheet!