Are you excited for training camp/preseason or is it meaningless?

[JBS]

I disagree with those who say it is meaningless.

You see pre-snap penalties, and lots of them, you will see them in the real season.

You see the first string defense not being able to get pressure, you will see that in the real season if it is first on firsts.

You see second year receivers in the wrong spot causing turn overs, you'll see that in real games.

You see first string corners and safeties not being able to cover, you'll see that in regular season games.

First string defense cannot stop the run, then be ready for this when they count.

Every year for the last four there has been something in pre-season the fans discount because it has been negative, and every time it shows up when the real games count.

To dismiss what you see when the big boys are on the field is usually a mistake by fans. Followed immediately by 11 page threads as people make excuses because it is preseason.

What about the good things? Do those translate?

 

[Jenky]

I disagree with those who say it is meaningless.

You see pre-snap penalties, and lots of them, you will see them in the real season.

You see the first string defense not being able to get pressure, you will see that in the real season if it is first on firsts.

You see second year receivers in the wrong spot causing turn overs, you'll see that in real games.

You see first string corners and safeties not being able to cover, you'll see that in regular season games.

First string defense cannot stop the run, then be ready for this when they count.

Every year for the last four there has been something in pre-season the fans discount because it has been negative, and every time it shows up when the real games count.

To dismiss what you see when the big boys are on the field is usually a mistake by fans. Followed immediately by 11 page threads as people make excuses because it is preseason.

IMO, preseason games are very vanilla. It's more of a evaluation of the younger individual players with hardly any scheming. So i'll respectfully disagree about what you may see in the preseason translating to season games.

 

[bayeslife]

I've pretty much mailed it in this year for last place in the division. Still going follow anything and everything Cowboys related, they are my crack.

 

[TwoDeep3]

What about the good things? Do those translate?

Of course they do.

But the argument that tends to drawe interest is always the same here. What you see is a myth and all bad is just pre-seasopn.

I think it was back when Flozell was on the team Dallas was horrid about pre-snap penalties. The hue and cry was this isn't a cause for concern.

The entire season was one failed drive after another because of pre-snap penalties.

 

[jobberone]

Off season is about over. Now the fun begins in earnest.

 

[Idgit]

It's a massive improvement over what we've got going now. As far as meaning goes, you can get a sense for how individual players are developing. That's meaningful, I guess. Preseason team records obviously mean nothing.

I will say I'm calling BS on any fan hard core enough to post regularly during the dead days of the offseason not watching TC video or the preseason games. I just don't believe it. There are plenty enough bandwagoners out there who won't watch until the games count. But our regular posters aren't among them.

 

[Idgit]

Of course they do.

But the argument that tends to drawe interest is always the same here. What you see is a myth and all bad is just pre-seasopn.

I think it was back when Flozell was on the team Dallas was horrid about pre-snap penalties. The hue and cry was this isn't a cause for concern.

The entire season was one failed drive after another because of pre-snap penalties.

I've never noticed people particularly taking the good and ignoring the bad from preseason games. I've lived through enough falling skies for preseason won-loss records, for example.

Granted, it's tricky knowing what's rust and what's unfamiliarity and what's an inability to actually play. Preseason is definitely deceiving.

 

[gmoney112]

I don't do drugs but I'd equate my thirst for Cowboys news to the equivalent of bootin' black tar. I'm addicted.

 

[jday]

This might be first year I choose not to watch preseason games. I've always gotten excited when they run it 35 times and guys like Phillip Tanner dominate only to never use him or the running game when it counts.

Think I'll lower my expectations this year and tune in when it counts. Or is there value in watching preseason?

And that's another thing...this preseason is probably more significant for the Cowboys then it beenin ages. There is only two positions on the defensive side of the ball that you can write down with pen - Church and Carr - after that everyone is fighting for their position and spot on the final 53. And the only reason Carr isn't fighting is because Jerry Jones doesn't spend 50 million on bench-warmers...everyone else is anybody's guess as far as starters. That will be very interesting to see from game to game.

 

[lostar2009]

Yup !!!!

 

[TwoDeep3]

I've never noticed people particularly taking the good and ignoring the bad from preseason games. I've lived through enough falling skies for preseason won-loss records, for example.

Granted, it's tricky knowing what's rust and what's unfamiliarity and what's an inability to actually play. Preseason is definitely deceiving.

I can't help if you've seen it or not. However, think back to the days of Flozell, which comes to mind. The team was terrible with the penalty thing. And it was hirrid in pre-season.

People kept stating this didn't matter.

We were the most penalized team that year right after the Raiders.

It does matter. You practice how you play.

 

[Idgit]

I can't help if you've seen it or not. However, think back to the days of Flozell, which comes to mind. The team was terrible with the penalty thing. And it was hirrid in pre-season.

People kept stating this didn't matter.

We were the most penalized team that year right after the Raiders.

It does matter. You practice how you play.

I can't substantiate that either way, but I'm not sure it's right, anyway. With so many players on a roster who havent necessarily played together previously, every team's going to have more penalties in preseason. I wonder if where is correlation between most penalized when the games don't count and most penalized when they do. I'd imagine there is, but it's pretty loose.

 

[bayeslife]

I disagree with those who say it is meaningless.

You see pre-snap penalties, and lots of them, you will see them in the real season.

You see the first string defense not being able to get pressure, you will see that in the real season if it is first on firsts.

You see second year receivers in the wrong spot causing turn overs, you'll see that in real games.

You see first string corners and safeties not being able to cover, you'll see that in regular season games.

First string defense cannot stop the run, then be ready for this when they count.

Every year for the last four there has been something in pre-season the fans discount because it has been negative, and every time it shows up when the real games count.

To dismiss what you see when the big boys are on the field is usually a mistake by fans. Followed immediately by 11 page threads as people make excuses because it is preseason.

It's mind boggling that you think preseason preparation and regular season preparation are even remotely the same. The Cowboys beat up on the Bengals last preseason when their starting units were in, and look at where they ended up last season.

Preseason is to get a good look at the young players, but that's about it. Coaches barely go through their playbook. Everyone is running base packages. You know how I know the Cowboys defense is going to suck again? Because I saw it last year in real games, not because they were moving half speed in a game where the players are in for two drives and then are done for the evening.

 

[rwalters31]

This might be first year I choose not to watch preseason games. I've always gotten excited when they run it 35 times and guys like Phillip Tanner dominate only to never use him or the running game when it counts.

Think I'll lower my expectations this year and tune in when it counts. Or is there value in watching preseason?

I mean it is something to see and a lot of fun for people to evaluate and judge, but ultimately there really isn't much that translates into the regular season. When they play the first game is when you actually can start to see the make-up of the team.

In the pass I would be interest in all news and the preseason for the talent. This year I have not paid any attention to ESPN, NFL, or any other news source as my expectations are non-existent. Avery now and then I come to this sight to see if there is any real news. I will watch the third preseason game to see what talent is still there and what the roster looks like. Keep up the good news reporting Cowboyszone!

 

[Bullflop]

I'm always curious enough about our players' chances at various positions to feel compelled to see how they fare in training camp. There's usually enough competition at many spots to want to see exactly who stands out and who doesn't. TC also helps to serve as an indicator which players are likely to stay or be cut. After a long offseason, It's also quite interesting to get some indication as to how the team might perform once the regular season begins. OK -- and besides, I'm addicted to 'em, LOL.

 

[noshame]

How cam anybody sit through a off season and not watch every second of anything Cowboys? If they were playing a pick-up basketball game I'd watch.
Besides this is the only chance to see back-ups in action, one on one game tape can tell you a lot about a player.
Don't watch the games? honestly some of you just kill me.

 

[Fredd]

the actual games are the least most important part of the pre-season to me...but I want to see the development of the young guys...I look forward to seeing the rotations and how things are going to work, especially on defense. I look at it this way, if a pre-season Cowboy game is on, I try to make it to watch the first quarter, but I don't lose any sleep if I have something to do and can't see it...that is ENTIRELY different once the 16-game season starts...I don't miss a minute of the game whether they are up a lot or getting crushed...that is the difference in pre-season to real season to me

 

[BoysFan4ever]

It's a massive improvement over what we've got going now. As far as meaning goes, you can get a sense for how individual players are developing. That's meaningful, I guess. Preseason team records obviously mean nothing.

I will say I'm calling BS on any fan hard core enough to post regularly during the dead days of the offseason not watching TC video or the preseason games. I just don't believe it. There are plenty enough bandwagoners out there who won't watch until the games count. But our regular posters aren't among them.

I'm a regular poster & I don't watch preseason football games. I will see the posts on here regarding the games. They just aren't on my viewing radar.

 

[LOBO7]

We have a new OC and I want to see what he is bringing. I want to see the new draft picks. I wanna see Romo throw and see how his back is. Hell yes.

 

[casmith07]

Pretty excited. I like to watch the All-22 as well (annual subscriber) so I'm looking forward to watching Ahmad Dixon, especially.