Argument not to draft a QB

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I bet you didn't even know who lynch or wentz was last year at this point. The draft hypes these guys up like no other. There's got to be top players. If lynch and wentz were so great like a luck why are they playing at small schools?
There are some good prospects next season and will be the season after that.

Then we should just wait until Romo retires. Should be better qb class in 2020. It worked out well for Dallas when Aikman retired.
 

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Is it? Who are the top of the draft guys? I don't think Watson, Kaaya, Kelly, Faulk or who ever have more pro potential than Goff, Wentz or even Lynch.
I need to see a little growth in a couple of areas from Watson, but I could easily see him being thought of as a better prospect than this years group. Outside of him though it looks incredibly meh.
 

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I need to see a little growth in a couple of areas from Watson, but I could easily see him being thought of as a better prospect than this years group. Outside of him though it looks incredibly meh.

Yeah and if he's a better prospect than Goff, Wentz, and Lynch than the Cowboys will have to have another top 5 pick next year and I hope that it isn't the case! They could always trade up but I doubt that happens.
 

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If Wentz or Goff is there we need to draft them period. Even if Romo plays for the next 4 years, we have a qb who can step in when he retires who is young. It just makes good business sense. Let's not over think this.
 

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Yeah and if he's a better prospect than Goff, Wentz, and Lynch than the Cowboys will have to have another top 5 pick next year and I hope that it isn't the case! They could always trade up but I doubt that happens.

Which is a whole different aspect of this. Better QB prospects mean they will go higher. To even have a shot at them 4-12 is pushing it. That basically means the only way to get a better QB prospect is if Romo doesn't play a game or wait until he's done. Then hope and pray there's one in that draft and we're in a position to take them.

The benefits of taking one now far outweigh any negatives if they think they are franchise caliber. You take those guys when available unless you have a young franchise guy already.
 

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I need to see a little growth in a couple of areas from Watson, but I could easily see him being thought of as a better prospect than this years group. Outside of him though it looks incredibly meh.


WHAT not even close
 

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Which is a whole different aspect of this. Better QB prospects mean they will go higher. To even have a shot at them 4-12 is pushing it. That basically means the only way to get a better QB prospect is if Romo doesn't play a game or wait until he's done. Then hope and pray there's one in that draft and we're in a position to take them.

The benefits of taking one now far outweigh any negatives if they think they are franchise caliber. You take those guys when available unless you have a young franchise guy already.

I agree 100% I really hope we don't pass on Wentz or Goff.
 

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Watson

not another A Smith or QC

I really didn't expect much when I had only seen his highlights on espn. Thought he was just another running QB. After watching some actual tape on him I was pretty impressed.

He throws a beautiful ball with good velocity. Throws with a lot more anticipation than I ever expected, with nice touch and surprising accuracy. One of the things he really needs work on is improving his reads. Often times he would get locked onto a guy instead of making his progressions. He also had a tendency to get antsy in the pocket and scramble when he didn't have to because of his running ability.

World class athlete though. Tough as nails and loaded with tools. I'm not sure he wouldn't be right in the mix for the top QB this year. I would definitely take him above Lynch right now if he was in the draft. He needs some work, but I fully expect him to be near the top of the early mock drafts next year and at the top if he continues to improve.
 

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The ONLY argument against drafting a QB at 4 this year is the VERY faint hope that Garrett gets fired if we struggle this year and the new regime starts with their own QB. If we draft a QB at number 4 this year, that means Garrett gets to stay and ruin his career too (just like romo)

That is the only argument
Period

Otherwise, any person with even half a brain would go with QB at 4
 

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lol, posters still believing the Cowboys are contenders and all we need is a few more players to surround Tony with (offense.defense) to win a super bowl.

I want a QB at 4 if one of them is there. That said, the Cowboys are going to the the favorites to win the East next year. From there, anything can happen, so it's not at all unheard of that we could go from 4-12 into contention. There's still a talent gap before we're realistically competing in the biggest games, but that can change quickly in the NFL.

As for the OP, we're not going to go 1-3 with Romo and Dez in the lineup, and if we did, there's not going to likely be a QB controversy, regardless, because we'll be getting good play at QB. I'd love to have the defensive help--and I won't complain if that's the route our board says to go--but it would be a mistake to pass up on the QB at four. Too expensive to get back there when you do need one. Too few legitimate options at QB2 out there now, and too high a chance Tony misses some games in the next two seasons. A deep QB corps gives us a much better chance of winning a few of those if Romo is out, and any one of them could be the difference between the playoffs and no playoffs. If Tony misses games, the backup QB will hands-down be more important than any defender we might be considering, and taking him now effectively saves what I'd at least hope would be two other first round picks in the next year or two when we have to get in position to move up and get somebody. Since there's zero sense in waiting until Tony retires to start preparing a QB, we're going to have to use our first round ammunition at some point during his window closing. Might as well do it now when we're fairly sure we can get it done and when we won't have to overpay.
 

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I bet you didn't even know who lynch or wentz was last year at this point. The draft hypes these guys up like no other. There's got to be top players. If lynch and wentz were so great like a luck why are they playing at small schools?
There are some good prospects next season and will be the season after that.

You still haven't named one QB that will be available next year, so how can you say it's as deep as hell?

And are you in position to draft one if he's good?

Every year there's an excuse not to draft a QB.

Next year will be the same and before you know it we won't have an option.
 

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I want a QB at 4 if one of them is there. That said, the Cowboys are going to the the favorites to win the East next year. From there, anything can happen, so it's not at all unheard of that we could go from 4-12 into contention. There's still a talent gap before we're realistically competing in the biggest games, but that can change quickly in the NFL.

As for the OP, we're not going to go 1-3 with Romo and Dez in the lineup, and if we did, there's not going to likely be a QB controversy, regardless, because we'll be getting good play at QB. I'd love to have the defensive help--and I won't complain if that's the route our board says to go--but it would be a mistake to pass up on the QB at four. Too expensive to get back there when you do need one. Too few legitimate options at QB2 out there now, and too high a chance Tony misses some games in the next two seasons. A deep QB corps gives us a much better chance of winning a few of those if Romo is out, and any one of them could be the difference between the playoffs and no playoffs. If Tony misses games, the backup QB will hands-down be more important than any defender we might be considering, and taking him now effectively saves what I'd at least hope would be two other first round picks in the next year or two when we have to get in position to move up and get somebody. Since there's zero sense in waiting until Tony retires to start preparing a QB, we're going to have to use our first round ammunition at some point during his window closing. Might as well do it now when we're fairly sure we can get it done and when we won't have to overpay.

Contention as in beating either the Panthers or Seattle to get to the Super Bowl. Dream on.
 

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You still haven't named one QB that will be available next year, so how can you say it's as deep as hell?

And are you in position to draft one if he's good?

Every year there's an excuse not to draft a QB.

Next year will be the same and before you know it we won't have an option.

It's so deep he can't see that far
 

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The term contender to me is making it to the Super Bowl to 'contend' for it. If he mean we are contenders for the NFC East title. Ok.

You and I have similar expectations

Some have told that they "enjoyed" the 8-8 seasons and proclaim that we were 'contending' the 3 years we went 8-8 with Garrett. They do so in a feeble effort to justify the complete ineptitude of the ginger clapper.
 
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