ARTICLE: A thought on who could replace Gumbel and make history

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How the NFL Network could make history

So the inevitable has happened and Bryant Gumbel has parted ways with the NFL Network, whose ownership he ripped on his other TV gig, HBO's "Real Sports," one week before calling his first game for the network. WHen Gumbel bit the hand that was feeding him, you knew the arrangement was going to be trouble. That was confirmed as soon as he opened his mouth without the aid of a teleprompter and sounded like ... a guy who had never called a football game in his life.

After that debacle, the NFL should be looking for an upgrade. Problem is, the league presumably can't go cherry-pick talent from its broadcast partners at NBC, CBS and ESPN. But what if it could have a talented non-NFL announcer from one of those networks, make it broadcasts network-quality ... and score a PR coup in the process?


Gentlemen of the jury, I give you ... Pam Ward.
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Not just because she used to toil at a station where I now contribute (WBAL), but because Pam Ward is the best play-by-play talent not calling games for either MLB or the NFL. And because if you're going to make history, you'd better make it with somebody who won't embarrass you, will work hard and keep her head down and make her critics seem like very small-minded (and membered) people.

I have a recording of Ward calling the Division III NCAA football championship a few years ago. It was an historic game, in that it pitted John Gagliardi, the Methuselah of college football, who had earlier that season broken Eddie Robinson's all-time victories mark, against Larry Kehres of Mount Union, which entered the game with a 55-game win streak. As the game's momentum shifted slowly but decisively away from Mount Union and toward the Johnnies, Ward was terrific. She saw what was happening and used it to her advantage, calling the game with both excitement and intelligence.

I know that Doctor Johnson once said that seeing a woman preaching was like seeing a dog standing on its hind legs; the wonder is that it happens at all. And in the male-dominated culture of sports chatter, the harshest evaluations Ward would be likely to get are those that are generally complimentary to her but have the vaguely dismissive ******** tone of, Huh. A woman calling a game.

But here's why NFL Network should make her a deal anyway: Pam Ward is going to be miles better than Bryant Gumbel. With that act to follow, Pat Summerall would even sound good right about now. And the stakes are low. NFL Network isn't even in half of the homes with cable TV. She'll probably work cheap. The league can rent her for football season, then give her back to ESPN in January for basketball games. Small downside, potentially big upside. What's not to like?

The only fly in the ointment might be Cris Collinsworth. The NFL Network's color man has given every indication of being an arch-traditionalist, from his towel-snapping demeanor with other jocks on sports talk programs to his tone-deaf defense of Rush Limbaugh on Keith Olbermann's "Countdown" ("Is he really the worst person in the world? The whole world?").

Keith Olbermann, on reading that, wrote in with an informed defense of Collinsworth.

Also, there are rumors out there that Collinsworth wants the PBP job for himself. The NFL would certainly not be wrong to give it to him. He's one of the better talents out there. But he'd have to give up some of his folksy opinionating to focus on the game action, and that's a role better suited to a PBP lifer like Ward.

Plus, picking Pam Ward as the new face of the NFL Network might help the league in contract negotiations with those obstinate cable companies. We're the football channel women like to watch! Well, it couldn't hurt.



Posted by Aaron Barnhart on April 12, 2008 at 12:14 AM in TV Barn | Permalink

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If her voice isnt a nasally whine its an improvement. That being said all the great announcers like Summerall, Alberts, Jackson and others have similar timbre and pace. Its familiar, tried and true. She would have her work cut out for her and its not JUST because shes a woman.

After Gumbel though everything is an improvement.
 

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even though it would be a improvement.....I wouldnt want a woman giving me my football...no offense to the ladies here.........jus my opinion
 

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I've heard her call games before and have been very impressed. I wouldnt mind at all if they gave her the job.
 

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I am sure that a lot of people that have been calling NFL games for a long time will be.

She needs to pay her dues to get to the top. Gumbel called BASKETBALL games and want even very good at that. It was a disaster. Him being moved over cold like that was a bad idea. I listened to that clip and she certainly deserves a shot like anyone else that has talent. She should also pay her dues.

It also would help the mysoginists get used to the idea and give her a chance. There are still a ton of men that are intimidated by a woman being in a position of significance.
 

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Ho.
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crap.

No.

I can't watch any game she calls on ESPN. The only PBP announcer that will cause me to not watch the game just because of who's calling it.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2033326 said:
I am sure that a lot of people that have been calling NFL games for a long time will be.

She needs to pay her dues to get to the top. Gumbel called BASKETBALL games and want even very good at that. It was a disaster. Him being moved over cold like that was a bad idea. I listened to that clip and she certainly deserves a shot like anyone else that has talent. She should also pay her dues.

It also would help the mysoginists get used to the idea and give her a chance. There are still a ton of men that are intimidated by a woman being in a position of significance.
It's not a gender issue for me, personally. I just think she's, well, subpar.
 

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eman721;2033333 said:
It has nothing to do with her gender for me, personally. I just think she's, well, subpar.
Unfortunately, it won't really matter how bad she is (unless she's Gumbel bad) because most people will say that dislike for her stems from her gender. IMO, NFL Network could do a lot better than her.
 

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kk how old are the people that dont like her. theres a reason they put her in college first.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2033326 said:
I am sure that a lot of people that have been calling NFL games for a long time will be.

She needs to pay her dues to get to the top. Gumbel called BASKETBALL games and want even very good at that. It was a disaster. Him being moved over cold like that was a bad idea. I listened to that clip and she certainly deserves a shot like anyone else that has talent. She should also pay her dues.

It also would help the mysoginists get used to the idea and give her a chance. There are still a ton of men that are intimidated by a woman being in a position of significance.
Not that I'm a big proponent, I thought the article presented an out the box idea. BTW, she has called NCAA football games since 2001.
 

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WoodysGirl;2033344 said:
Not that I'm a big proponent, I thought the article presented an out the box idea. BTW, she has called NCAA football games since 2001.

I understand that but the NCAA has a younger audience and well its not the NFL.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2033354 said:
I understand that but the NCAA has a younger audience and well its not the NFL.
Of course. Not sure she should replace Gumbel. My thought is that she couldnt be any worse than some of the 3rd and 4th broadcast team... which could mean there's a place for her.
 

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I think she'd horrid. Does the NCAA really have a younger audience? Maybe slightly I guess. Personally I enjoy it better than the NFL, I find it a more entertaining brand of football.
 

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I wouldn't have a problem with a woman calling a game; most of the time I block out what they are saying anyway (broadcasters, not women). I would have to see some of her other work though. She really seemed to struggle in that one clip, even apart from the obvious score mistake.

What they should do is get a makeup artist to make her look like a guy; she has a very masculine voice anyway so noone would notice. Then later in the season during a really boring game, like the Commanders, Eagles or Giants, have her rip of her makeup, yell surprise and give Collinsworth a lapdance or something.
 

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WoodysGirl;2033364 said:
Of course. Not sure she should replace Gumbel. My thought is that she couldnt be any worse than some of the 3rd and 4th broadcast team... which could mean there's a place for her.

The talent level in TV sports broacasting across the board has taken a turn for the worse in the last ten years. Old guard guys are either passing away or retiring and they are replacing them with name recognition. As such the product sucks. You are left with dinosaurs like Enberg and a ton of garbage that they try and pass off as talent.

Take Joe Buck for example. Is he bad? No not really but he certainly isnt broadcaster supremem. Yet because his father was a famous St Louis broadcaster they tout him as the second coming. His broadcasts are uninspiring and his most memorable moments are him being a sanctimonious turd.

There are excellent broadcasting schools from Syracuse to Sam Houston State where guys that have been calling games since high school and for years afterwards and have been trained specifically for this task for years. Yet they give us such charismatic guys as Emmitt Smith and Shannon Sharpe.

Oh and another thing ESPN needs to learn that there is a bloody reason that newpaper journalists work in the written word. Guys like Skip Bayless, Steve Smith and Tom Candiotti have no business on television.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2033396 said:
The talent level in TV sports broacasting across the board has taken a turn for the worse in the last ten years. Old guard guys are either passing away or retiring and they are replacing them with name recognition. As such the product sucks. You are left with dinosaurs like Enberg and a ton of garbage that they try and pass off as talent.

Take Joe Buck for example. Is he bad? No not really but he certainly isnt broadcaster supremem. Yet because his father was a famous St Louis broadcaster they tout him as the second coming. His broadcasts are uninspiring and his most memorable moments are him being a sanctimonious turd.

There are excellent broadcasting schools from Syracuse to Sam Houston State where guys that have been calling games since high school and for years afterwards and have been trained specifically for this task for years. Yet they give us such charismatic guys as Emmitt Smith and Shannon Sharpe.

Oh and another thing ESPN needs to learn that there is a bloody reason that newpaper journalists work in the written word. Guys like Skip Bayless, Steve Smith and Tom Candiotti have no business on television.

Well said.
 

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I like Marv. The guy just has a naturally gifted voice for broadcasting. I like him on the radio broadcasts on the Sunday/Monday night games.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2033396 said:
The talent level in TV sports broacasting across the board has taken a turn for the worse in the last ten years. Old guard guys are either passing away or retiring and they are replacing them with name recognition. As such the product sucks. You are left with dinosaurs like Enberg and a ton of garbage that they try and pass off as talent.

Take Joe Buck for example. Is he bad? No not really but he certainly isnt broadcaster supremem. Yet because his father was a famous St Louis broadcaster they tout him as the second coming. His broadcasts are uninspiring and his most memorable moments are him being a sanctimonious turd.

There are excellent broadcasting schools from Syracuse to Sam Houston State where guys that have been calling games since high school and for years afterwards and have been trained specifically for this task for years. Yet they give us such charismatic guys as Emmitt Smith and Shannon Sharpe.

Oh and another thing ESPN needs to learn that there is a bloody reason that newpaper journalists work in the written word. Guys like Skip Bayless, Steve Smith and Tom Candiotti have no business on television.
Great post. Whenever I watch old MNF games with Cosell and all announcing, I realize how good they were at their job compared to today's lot. Also, they complemented the game with information and only talked when necessary or to add comments, today's announcers just talk on and on and most of the time it's not even about the game. And don't get me started on stuff like the Galloping Gobbler. :banghead:
 
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