Article: Eagles' Kolb continues to improve

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Kolb continues to improve
By Bob Grotz, Of The Times Staff

PHILADELPHIA — For the first time in weeks, Eagles quarterback Kevin Kolb totally felt like a rookie.

Kolb was far enough ahead of the learning curve Tuesday the Eagles threw him a curveball — an advanced play, the type he begins seeing regularly starting today. For a minute or so, he felt like a project.

“I had no clue what any of it meant,” Kolb said.

All it did was remind the second-round draft pick out of Houston how much more work is ahead despite what veteran teammates and coaches consider an impressive start to his NFL career.

Kolb, nonetheless, isn’t fazed by his underdog status amongst the handful of quarterbacks who have proven they can win in the NFL. With Donovan McNabb’s rehab from a torn anterior cruciate ligament seeming more difficult than the franchise passer imagined, Kolb is pushing himself as hard as the coaches. And for good reason; if McNabb can’t go in the season opener, Kolb could be one play away from his regular season debut.

“First of all, A.J. is ready to play,” Kolb said. “A.J. is a good player and that’s the reason we have him around. And so is Kelly (Holcomb). But I think if the situation got dealt to me — they’d have to limit some things obviously and everybody would have to help out — but I think we could get it done. That’s the worst-case scenario, though. We’ve got some great quarterbacks and they’re definitely going to get the chance first.”

Kolb has looked surprisingly amazingly polished in the West Coast offense, a system with enough plays and formations to confuse the wiliest veteran.

He made virtually every throw Tuesday, albeit in the non-contact arena of practice full of more rookies than veterans.

For the most part, Kolb made them effortlessly and accurately, spiraling the ball to spots only his receivers could reach. In just a few weeks he’s gotten a handle on the cadence and the footwork required of the position.

Barely a month into his career, Kolb is ready to delve significantly deeper into the playbook.
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“We’re working on the details,” offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg said. “We’re working on some of the basic fundamentals and techniques we use. He’s doing really a good job. We’ll see if we can keep this thing going.”

Kolb’s talents can be much more easily assessed when training camp begins July 27 at Lehigh University. The nature of the practices — no blitzes, no pass rush, skeletal pass coverage — almost is purely fundamental.

At the same time, Kolb has done an eye-opening job of improving seemingly with each and every practice. His mistakes have been minimal. He’s been a quick study soaking up knowledge just by watching the veterans. Lately it’s been Holcomb.

“Kelly’s been around it all,” Kolb said. “He knows everything that’s being said, he knows the terminology. It frustrates me because he picks it up so much quicker than I do. But he just slaps me on the butt and says, ‘quit worrying about it man. It’s your first camp or it’s your second camp. It’s going to come.’ I’m definitely not there yet. I think there’s a long way to go.”

Kolb has done a commendable job of fitting in with some of the same teammates who were shocked when the Eagles made him their first pick in the recent draft.

Kolb joined Holcomb in a recent golf outing, one that gave him an up close and personal look at diehard Eagles fans.

Kolb genuinely thinks his reception has been nothing short of stunning, and hopes it’s the beginning of a lengthy relationship.

“It’s pretty neat here because they don’t pester you,” Kolb said. “They just say, ‘hey it’s nice to have you in town.’ And that’s it. And that’s nice to have. I’ve heard so many tough things about this town and how they’re going to boo you. And then when you get something nice, it’s like, ‘oh man.’ I know if you don’t succeed, it’s to come. But they treat you with open arms right now.”

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Angus;1512959 said:
All it did was remind the second-round draft pick out of Houston how much more work is ahead despite what veteran teammates and coaches consider an impressive start to his NFL career.

Hasn't even played a preseason down.... very impressive career he has going. Why can't they just stick with "has looked really good in practice" or something?
 

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Monthly reminder: Kolb will be better than Quinn. And because he's in our division, that's not a good thing.
 

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adamknite;1512968 said:
Hasn't even played a preseason down.... very impressive career he has going. Why can't they just stick with "has looked really good in practice" or something?


Its part of his career.....practice. And you're nitpicking.
 

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I have to say I enjoyed watching Kolb when he was at the U of H, too bad I'll have to cheer against him in Philly.
 

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adamknite;1512968 said:
Hasn't even played a preseason down.... very impressive career he has going. Why can't they just stick with "has looked really good in practice" or something?

Amen. It's not even training camp yet and these guys are "surprisingly amazingly polished" looking? LOL.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1512974 said:
Amen. It's not even training camp yet and these guys are "surprisingly amazingly polished" looking? LOL.

The same applies to those who rave about Romo looking "perfect".

I think most would in no-contact drills.
 

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Alexander;1512980 said:
The same applies to those who rave about Romo looking "perfect".

I think most would in no-contact drills.

That's true, but I can believe it of a fifth-year vet QB a lot more than I can of a rookie.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1512974 said:
Amen. It's not even training camp yet and these guys are "surprisingly amazingly polished" looking? LOL.
He was a 4 year starters so that's not particularly surprising.

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The same applies to those who rave about Romo looking "perfect".

I think most would in no-contact drills.
I don't think most do, actually. I'm a firm believer in the "you practice like you play" line.
 

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Doomsday101;1512972 said:
I have to say I enjoyed watching Kolb when he was at the U of H, too bad I'll have to cheer against him in Philly.
Same here... Especially since he was a Cowboy fan prior to the draft.

I like that he's getting off to a good start, just sucks he's in Philly. Damn Eagles. :(

Chocolate Lab;1512974 said:
Amen. It's not even training camp yet and these guys are "surprisingly amazingly polished" looking? LOL.
In my eyes, it's the same concept as when you read about Brady Quinn sucking it up in the Browns camp. It's all relative.

As an alum, I rather read about him doing well, than having a scattershot arm.
 

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I have this weird feeling that this is either McNabb's last year in Philly, or that they will move him by the trade deadline.

Hollcombe
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I just don't think they'll keep 4 QBs nor risk Kolb on the Practice Squad where anyone can grab him. Maybe they waive Feeley or Holcombe, but I can as easily see them not and getting rid of mcNabb's huge salary and Kolb's only real roadblock. The Eagles more than any other franchise operate that way.
 

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theogt;1512986 said:
He was a 4 year starters so that's not particularly surprising.
Plenty of first-day draft picks at QB were multi-year starters in college. But the vast majority of QBs still struggle when they get to the pro level.

When guys like Carson Palmer and Troy Aikman struggle entering the league, I'm not going to bet on a second round pick from lower level of competition tearing it up from his very first minicamp.
 

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Kolb won't play this year anyways; Didn't he spend his entire high school and collegiate career in an offense which uses the shotgun almost excusively?
West-Coast offenses never use it, and thinking about it I don't remember Garcia using it, the only time the shotgun was used was under Mcnabb because he isn't exactly a WC qb. Point is Kolb is not ready...maybe he will be good down the road, but is Mcnabb leaves or gets injured the season is over for the eagles I think. Their defense cannot carry them anymore and those qb's aren't exactly world beaters.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1513006 said:
Plenty of first-day draft picks at QB were multi-year starters in college. But the vast majority of QBs still struggle when they get to the pro level.

When guys like Carson Palmer and Troy Aikman struggle entering the league, I'm not going to bet on a second round pick from lower level of competition tearing it up from his very first minicamp.


Its just a minicamp with no contact.

Its very possible Kolb looked good out there. He played in a spread offense, so with Philly's offensive scheme, it shouldn't be too much different with what they probably threw at him to begin with....
 

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BouncingCheese;1513008 said:
Kolb won't play this year anyways; Didn't he spend his entire high school and collegiate career in an offense which uses the shotgun almost excusively?
West-Coast offenses never use it, and thinking about it I don't remember Garcia using it, the only time the shotgun was used was under Mcnabb because he isn't exactly a WC qb. Point is Kolb is not ready...maybe he will be good down the road, but is Mcnabb leaves or gets injured the season is over for the eagles I think. Their defense cannot carry them anymore and those qb's aren't exactly world beaters.

U of H used many different formations even the HC did not have a name for the various styles of offense they used and while he was in the shotgun a lot he also worked from under center. I do agree like most rookie QB's chances are he will not be ready this year
 

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Chocolate Lab;1513006 said:
Plenty of first-day draft picks at QB were multi-year starters in college. But the vast majority of QBs still struggle when they get to the pro level.
A lot of guys only get 2 solid starting seasons in or get 3 at most. Four years of starting isn't really the norm, I don't think. I could be wrong, but I don't remember too many first day picks that have had that much experience.

When guys like Carson Palmer and Troy Aikman struggle entering the league, I'm not going to bet on a second round pick from lower level of competition tearing it up from his very first minicamp.
Different people adjust at different rates. It doesn't mean he'll be better than Palmer or Aikman. Several draft guys were predicting that Kolb would be able to make the quickest transition. Just saying, it's no surprise.
 

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Its part of his career.....practice. And you're nitpicking.

Not really, I just think it's a little high praise for a guy basically standing there with all day to throw. If somebody wrote an article saying "Jamarcus Russel is having a rough start to his career" I'd say the same thing, so really I was just pointing out that it's a little too early to be putting any kind of label in front of "his career." They should have just said "he's looked good out there so far" or if he's not doing so well "he's trying to adjust to the offense, and has some work to do." It may be nitpicking, but oh well.
 

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adamknite;1513024 said:
Not really, I just think it's a little high praise for a guy basically standing there with all day to throw. If somebody wrote an article saying "Jamarcus Russel is having a rough start to his career" I'd say the same thing, so really I was just pointing out that it's a little too early to be putting any kind of label in front of "his career." They should have just said "he's looked good out there so far" or if he's not doing so well "he's trying to adjust to the offense, and has some work to do." It may be nitpicking, but oh well.

Well Cleveland press is writing that Quinn is struggling with his throws and this is under the same practice setup that Kolb is dealing with. I do agree nothing can be determined by these early reports of how this will translate to the player’s career only that in the early process Kolb has looked good and Quinn hasn't.
 

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Doomsday101;1513035 said:
Well Cleveland press is writing that Quinn is struggling with his throws and this is under the same practice setup that Kolb is dealing with. I do agree nothing can be determined by these early reports of how this will translate to the player’s career only that in the early process Kolb has looked good and Quinn hasn't.

I guess my only beef with the article was the wording. Reporting that a player has looked really good so far and a player has been off is the job of the journalist.

I just didn't like the wording "his career is off to a nice start" it's just weird to me to be mentioning such a broad term like "career" when he's only been in a few practices without full pads (I believe). So really it's just semantics, me making a ruckus over nothing really.
 

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I actually hope Kolb wins the starting job very quickly. At least by next year. I'm getting really tired of McFlabb's antics and fake personality.
 
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