ARTICLE: Recovering McNabb enjoying life without Owens

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PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Donovan McNabb believes only his sports hernia needed fixing. His relationship with his Philadelphia Eagles teammates was never as frayed as it seemed.

And now that the T.O. Show has moved on to Dallas, McNabb is more than ready to move on without him.

"I don't plan on doing anything different than what I've been doing," McNabb said Saturday after the Eagles opened minicamp. "I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to win ballgames."

McNabb had a new look to go with his hardened attitude. He dropped a few pounds, shaved the cornrows and wore a T-shirt that echoed a comment he made a few times when pressed about his place in the locker room: "If you can't trust family, who can you trust?"

McNabb had to wonder last season whom he could trust after the relationship between Terrell Owens and the Eagles disintegrated to a point where the locker room became divided. The daily drama -- and part-time amusement -- that Owens caused was a reason why the Eagles went from the Super Bowl to 6-10 and last place in the NFC East.

"For a lot of us, it was a re-evaluation period," McNabb said.

McNabb's season was cut short by a sports hernia and he entered the Eagles minicamp with plenty of questions about his health, his leadership and his ability to take the team back to the top of the NFC.

McNabb showed he was recovering fine from the hernia, rolling to his left and throwing across his body without any pain during Saturday's practice. McNabb said he expected to feel some soreness and tightness, and insisted he would be ready to play in the preseason.

"It feels great right now," he said.

So does his relationship with his teammates. While some Eagles lobbied for Owens to return to the team at the end of last season after he was suspended, McNabb said any perceived problems were overblown.

"There was never a point where I felt I was losing my teammates," he said.

Coach Andy Reid said he never worried about McNabb's stature in the locker room.

"He's a resilient guy, he's tough minded," he said. "Talk to the guys and they realize he leads this football team."

Offensive tackle Jon Runyan said McNabb was the leader on the team.

"I'm not worried about it. That was last year, this is this year," Runyan said.

A five-time Pro Bowl selection, McNabb and Owens clearly couldn't coexist after the wide receiver's repeated verbal jabs at the quarterback he once claimed he so desperately wanted to play with. McNabb injected a race element into his rift with Owens earlier this year, saying the receiver's criticism amounted to "black-on-black crime."

McNabb refused to back down or apologize for the analogy.

"What I said is what I said. It's over now," McNabb said. "If they don't understand what I said, then that's tough. Move on."

McNabb, who passed for 2,507 yards and 16 TDs last season, stayed in Philadelphia longer than usual in the offseason, mostly for rehab, but also to send a message to his teammates that leading the Eagles back among the elite is "serious business."

"With everything that happened, I'm still focused, I'm still looking forward to getting back out on the field and I wanted them to have that same attitude as well," he said.

After five straight trips to the playoffs and four consecutive appearances in the conference championship game, the Eagles hit rock bottom. The Owens fiasco, injuries to key starters and a defense more flimsy than feared all played a role in the team's sudden decline.

"There are no hangovers from last year," Reid said. "It's a fresh start."

McNabb has been waiting for one since he underwent surgery. While his answers were more serious in tone, the franchise quarterback said he'll never change his personality, smiling, laughing, cracking jokes and staying a "nice guy."

How nice? McNabb joked he may even buy Owens' book, scheduled to be released during training camp and sure to include all sorts of inflammatory and juicy tidbits about his stint in Philly.

"I'll buy the book," McNabb said, smiling. "Try to get it signed maybe. An autographed book. That would be awesome."

Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
A five-time Pro Bowl selection, McNabb and Owens clearly couldn't coexist after the wide receiver's repeated verbal jabs at the quarterback he once claimed he so desperately wanted to play with.

"repeated verbal jabs", my ***. thats just media spin.
 

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"repeated verbal jabs", my ***. thats just media spin.

All we know is what is repeated.

And when this gets repeated over and over, then it becomes "fact".

As Coach Parcells noted in his comments, there is more than one side to this little story.

And judging by the fact McNabb cannot let it go, that is satisfying in of itself.

My best guess based upon the evidence is that Owens exposed him for being the paper leader he is and he didn't care for it (and this has been backed up by Hugh Douglas in other comments as well). Now his pathetic murmurings still to this day and ridiculous "black on black" crime comments reveal what an insecure prig he really is.
 

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Alexander said:
All we know is what is repeated.

And when this gets repeated over and over, then it becomes "fact".

As Coach Parcells noted in his comments, there is more than one side to this little story.

And judging by the fact McNabb cannot let it go, that is satisfying in of itself.

My best guess based upon the evidence is that Owens exposed him for being the paper leader he is and he didn't care for it (and this has been backed up by Hugh Douglas in other comments as well). Now his pathetic murmurings still to this day and ridiculous "black on black" crime comments reveal what an insecure prig he really is.

Not sure TO can let it go either or we would not be expecting a book by him. I'm no fan of McNabb but I do find it funny how some will attack him and coddle TO. McNabb other than last year had no problems the same can't be said for TO. I guess McNabb and Garica is at fault and poor little TO is a victim of the media? :laugh1:
 

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Not sure TO can let it go either or we would not be expecting a book by him.

I have a feeling there will be less about McNabb in that book. People seem to feel that it was a personal thing between the two and I don't think it was. What I believe happened is that McNabb was simply collateral damage in Owens' dispute with management. In fact, McNabb is probably an extention of "the man" as he is the only Eagles player in the last 5-6 years who got close to his market value in terms of his contract and didn't have to jump through flaming hoops and hold out to get it.

I'm no fan of McNabb but I do find it funny how some will attack him and coddle TO.

I have never cared for McNabb a single bit and never have. I also tire of the constant defense he gets and that dates back to the day he was booed on the stage when he was drafted, through Rush Limbaugh and now until Owens. He is a media darling and always has been.

McNabb other than last year had no problems the same can't be said for TO. I guess McNabb and Garica is at fault and poor little TO is a victim of the media? :laugh1:

Owens has nobody to blame but himself if he is victimized. He can keep his mouth shut, but he chooses not to. I don't pity him. I just don't subscribe to the demon theories, nor do I think people like McNabb are saints in comparison to him. The truth is always in the middle and rarely what you think it is.

And as far as the media goes, it is pretty easy to tell they will take whatever manufactured story they wish and run with it, just as they have been content to do with their interpretation of Coach Parcells' feelings on the subject. But let's be honest here, Owens has a bullseye on his back and he probably likes it.
 

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Alexander said:
I have a feeling there will be less about McNabb in that book. People seem to feel that it was a personal thing between the two and I don't think it was. What I believe happened is that McNabb was simply collateral damage in Owens' dispute with management. In fact, McNabb is probably an extention of "the man" as he is the only Eagles player in the last 5-6 years who got close to his market value in terms of his contract and didn't have to jump through flaming hoops and hold out to get it.



I have never cared for McNabb a single bit and never have. I also tire of the constant defense he gets and that dates back to the day he was booed on the stage when he was drafted, through Rush Limbaugh and now until Owens. He is a media darling and always has been.



Owens has nobody to blame but himself if he is victimized. He can keep his mouth shut, but he chooses not to. I don't pity him. I just don't subscribe to the demon theories, nor do I think people like McNabb are saints in comparison to him. The truth is always in the middle and rarely what you think it is.

And as far as the media goes, it is pretty easy to tell they will take whatever manufactured story they wish and run with it, just as they have been content to do with their interpretation of Coach Parcells' feelings on the subject. But let's be honest here, Owens has a bullseye on his back and he probably likes it.


I understand what your saying and really do not disagree but I do know that TO has a history behind him that guys like McNabb and Garcia do not have. I don't think they are saints and I don't think TO is the devil I think TO is a guy who opens his mouth before he thinks and as long as your team is winning you have a chance to get the best of TO but when you go through rough times TO is the last guy you want around.
 

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I sincerely dislike McNabb. He's has a loser type of mentality, and is definitely NOT a leader of the team regardless of the propeganda machines.
 

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Funxva said:
I sincerely dislike McNabb. He's has a loser type of mentality, and is definitely NOT a leader of the team regardless of the propeganda machines.

Pretty strong words.

I don't know if I would go that far, but I believe there's something amiss with this guy ... some faulty wiring. McNabb's confidence -- especially in himself -- sometimes seems manufactured and artificial. His facial expressions and body language remind me of a person who is trying too hard to seem relaxed and in control. His words often times reveal a guy who is lobbying hard to reinforce his stature as a leader. A leader shouldn't have to do that.
 

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Pretty strong words.

I don't know if I would go that far, but I believe there's something amiss with this guy ... some faulty wiring. McNabb's confidence -- especially in himself -- sometimes seems manufactured and artificial. His facial expressions and body language remind me of a person who is trying too hard to seem relaxed and in control. His words often times reveal a guy who is lobbying hard to reinforce his stature as a leader. A leader shouldn't have to do that.

McNabb's confidence does seem to come into play when they get to the big game. He gets rattled easily. It does seem as if he is trying to hard or putting too much pressure on himself.
 

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that's all well and dandy....but a good attitude doesn't win games.

players with talent, do.


who is he throwing to? not much of anyone last time i looked. we've seen where that has gotten them before. close, but nothing significant. i don't expect anything different this year.

cowboys WILL sweep this team again, barring injuries.
 

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If you ask me, McNabb's comments continue to "dig a hole" for him in the downward spiral that started last year.

Facts are facts. McNabb is a company man who got paid. He's making his money, unlike the vast majority of his teammates. They all know he's on management's side and always has been. They don't trust him and with good reason. The Owens issue merely brought that situation to the fore-front.

He can wear any T-shirt he likes, but he's saying the same stupid things he did last year and he'll get the same lousy results.
 

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PHILADELPHIA (AP) --
Offensive tackle Jon Runyan said McNabb was the leader on the team.
BS. See below. That doesn't sound like he thought McNabb was their leader.

"I'm not worried about it. That was last year, this is this year," Runyan said.
Does anyone proof read anymore? I would never aspire to be an editor.......they are obviously underpaid and over-worked.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
McNabb had a new look to go with his hardened attitude. He dropped a few pounds, shaved the cornrows

Regardless of what the dude does to his hair, he'll still look like a giant midget.

No offense to midgets of course..
 

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Pretty strong words.

I don't know if I would go that far, but I believe there's something amiss with this guy ... some faulty wiring. McNabb's confidence -- especially in himself -- sometimes seems manufactured and artificial. His facial expressions and body language remind me of a person who is trying too hard to seem relaxed and in control. His words often times reveal a guy who is lobbying hard to reinforce his stature as a leader. A leader shouldn't have to do that.

You know that describes or could have described Quincy with Cowboys? :D But seriously, McNabb ever since this TO thing, the way he tries to constantly tries remind everyone that he is the leader, reminds me of Quincy on how he used to try to convince everyone that he is a leader.

One thing or probably only thing that I used to like about McNabb was his composure during all the media critisizm, during even Rush Limbaugh stuff ( co-incidently I agree with Rush's charaterization that McNabb is media created, but not with his argument that somehow it has to do with Race, but I always thought because McNabb was a markatable product for media). But ever since TO incident, his rantings about Black on black crime has gotten rediculous. And now this "I am the leader" crap.

I can see where the eagles team is heading soon.
 

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Not to break subject or anything, but with Bledsoe the entire offense knows who is in control. And you don't see these stupid articles with Drew saying things, he leads by example rather than what McNabb does. I'm don't really think Drew can take us anywhere but, at least I can believe he can based on the head on his shoulders.
 

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T.O. will be as bigger story in Philly as it will be in Dallas this year.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
Not sure TO can let it go either or we would not be expecting a book by him.

I think the book is more about capitalizing on the situation than on being able to let it go. We all know TO is all about the money.
 

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I'm not really sure where McNabb grew up...i know i could look it up if i really wanted to.

But philly is one of the most segregated cities in america. And there is a lot of racial BS that goes on. So, i think playing here in philly, McNabb has put a lot of pressure on himself, that goes beyond the game of football.

And i think the media has stirred the pot in this manner and i think TO probably pushed him to the edge by throwing little barbs his way. I mean McNabb tried to take the high road at first but probably carried a lot of this inside so that when he did finally speak it came out all wrong and then the media had a field day with him.

So basically, i see it as TO pushed his buttons and baited him (because he knows how to play head games and be manipulative), then McNabb got into it and it all got absurd and the media jumped on McNabb for impulse comments he probably wishes he could take back.

Now anything he says gets blown out of proportion. Its a sad thing, but he really should just limit his press conferences and keep things very brief at this point. Not that i am a Mcnabb fan at all, being a cowboys fan in Philly i hate the eagles, but some of the attacks on McNabbs character are completely unwaranted.

And he was a guy that would sit and talk to the press and enjoy the interviews and be upfront with his thoughts and feelings and that is pretty rare today.
 

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Funxva said:
I sincerely dislike McNabb. He's has a loser type of mentality, and is definitely NOT a leader of the team regardless of the propeganda machines.

mcnabb by far is the best qb IN THE nfc east. im a cowboys fan but im not stupid. how is somebody gonna say mcnabb is not the leader of his team lol
 
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