As Long As We're At It - Dilfer Just Said...

[YosemiteSam]

According to Mosley, players in the lockerroom say he turned the wrong way. Romo threw it to the right spot.

Players not prepared. That is a Wade Failips issue.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

does not shock me at all...but try to convince some of these "knowledgable" fans that our QB...who has put up big numbers and won games in SPITE of the defense...is NOT the problem. Is he perfect? No. Is he the best in the NFL? No. Is he in the top 10...probably!!!

Put it to you like this...Crayton, Austin, Hurd, Williams are not even in the top HALF of the NFL at their position...so I would take my chances with keeping Romo and getting rid of Garret and some of these rag tag WRs. Good to Great QBs are HARD to find. Garrett and this group are much easier to replace.

 

[Mash]

This is what you get when you have guys basically learning the nuances of the WR position at the NFL level. We're fortunate that Crayton has done fairly well, but Austin and Hurd are failing. There are so many technical and instinctual things that Austin and Hurd are lacking as WRs simply becasue of their background. At some point, we have to move on from these project types and get some guys who are ready to play - or at least will be in a year or 2.

I thought Austin and Hurd played WR in college? They werent QB's like Crayton....

and if its because they were undrafted FA players.......so was Tony Romo...

so in others words....I dont understand your point

should we draft WR's from bigger schools? I dont know....Austin and Hurd have been in this system a long time and have supposely a great WR coach....

 

[Mash]

Players not prepared. That is a Wade Failips issue.

well...if you want to blame a coach....if so...then blame our great WR coach..

but for me......players have to be accountable....they know the plays.....they know what is expected.....they should be accountable. They can run that play a hundred times during practice.....do it by the book....but come game time.....u make the wrong read...u run a sloppy pattern...u throw the ball high......its on the players.....

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

According to Mosley, players in the lockerroom say he turned the wrong way. Romo threw it to the right spot.

Funny, but Champ Bailey knew exactly where the pass was going because he was right there in position to intercept it. In other words, the route was CLEARLY COVERED, and so Romo sohuld not have thrown that ball at all. But hey, Mr. Gunslinger, you know...?

 

[Plumfool]

So when he over throws receivers the WR was actually supposed to run the route deeper?

When will it finally be just romos fault. He's a good qb but right now he stinks. Rec are open and he flat misses them. I'll take the Austin int. And chalk up nit enough time together but he missed crayton and will both who had steps on the defenders.

 

[tyke1doe]

I'm almost convinced Austin made the right decision and that was what he was trying to explain to Romo.

He ran up and cutting it inside (away from Champ) was open as opposed to turning back into him, so he cut back towards the QB. Romo failed to make that adjustment and threw it to the outside anyway.

Maybe it's a rhytmn thing, but to me it seemed like Austin made the right move cause Champ wouldn't have even been in place to make any play on the ball if he had simply thrown it to the inside, it would have been an easy catch.

Not even close.

First, if Austin follows the correct route, there's no interception. At worst, it's an imcomplete pass and the Cowboys go up 13-7 (three points would have been huge there.)

Second, Austin simply can't decide to break off a route when it's a timing route. Tony has committed to throwing the ball based on where Austin is suppose to be. He hasn't developed the rapport with Romo to make up routes on the fly. Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning could do that because they've be together so long they know each other's thoughts. Big Ben and Hines Ward can do that. Austin hasn't developed that relationship with Romo so how dare he change a route this early in his relationship with Tony?

That was just stupid of Miles Austin and probably underscores why he's not ready to assume a prominent role in this offense. And what tops it off is the excuse-making. You simply can't have guys vying for a starting job or guys new to the scheme who are trying to establish themselves breaking off routes.

Romo puts that ball the only place it can be caught if Austin runs the prescribed route. If he doesn't catch it, it's incomplete. Austin decides to freelance and Bailey makes a great interception. That was one of many game turners.

No, I put that one squarely on Austin.

 

[NorTex]

There's absolutely no way on God's green earth that Miles could have caught that crappy throw from Romo. Bailey barely caught it and he was facing towards Romo and further toward the sidelines. Bailey even had the advantage of seeing where the ball was going, meanwhile Miles had his back to Romo.

There is a consistent theme with all these "bad routes" that our receivers are running. And that is, no one wants to stand up and throw Romo under the bus where he belongs! So the receivers gently take the blame...so pitiful.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

When will it finally be just romos fault. He's a good qb but right now he stinks. Rec are open and he flat misses them. I'll take the Austin int. And chalk up nit enough time together but he missed crayton and will both who had steps on the defenders.

Or Garret's, for abandoning the run? But yes, since it was a pass play resulting in a throw that Romo should NOT have attempted, because the right route was covered (even though Austin read it wrong), then this was Romo's Fault also.

In fact, Garrett Austin and Romo are all to blame.

 

[tyke1doe]

Funny, but Champ Bailey knew exactly where the pass was going because he was right there in position to intercept it. In other words, the route was CLEARLY COVERED, and so Romo sohuld not have thrown that ball at all. But hey, Mr. Gunslinger, you know...?

Of course, Champ is going to know. He sees the quarterback.

Romo is making a split-second decision based on where the receiver is suppose to be. It's not like Bailey broke to the inside. If Romo checks off to the inside, he throws it to the middle of the field where there's more traffic. He throws it to the sideline, then even if it's incomplete, the Cowboys come away with three points.

Austin is trying to be a hero rather than thinking about the safe play. On second thought, maybe he's scared to challenge Bailey and get in front of him and actually try to make a play on a ball that is being thrown to the sideline. I mean, if he misses the ball, then it's merely an incomplete pass and Dallas kicks the field goal.

But some players just don't want to make those type plays. So they avoid them.

 

[wileedog]

Funny, but Champ Bailey knew exactly where the pass was going because he was right there in position to intercept it. In other words, the route was CLEARLY COVERED, and so Romo sohuld not have thrown that ball at all. But hey, Mr. Gunslinger, you know...?

Bailey knew where the ball was going because he was 5 yards behind Austin looking directly at Romo. He could react directly to the throw, and even then it took a spectacular diving catch.

If Austin breaks the right way he is well in front of Champ to catch that ball.

Romo did a lot of stuff wrong yesterday, but that wasn't one of them.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

When will it finally be just romos fault. He's a good qb but right now he stinks. Rec are open and he flat misses them. I'll take the Austin int. And chalk up nit enough time together but he missed crayton and will both who had steps on the defenders.

Who knows but as long as they make excuses for his poor play it's okay as long as he lights up the crappy Cheifs he's a HOF ROH type QB....

:sarcasm:

 

[tyke1doe]

There's absolutely no way on God's green earth that Miles could have caught that crappy throw from Romo. Bailey barely caught it and he was facing towards Romo and further toward the sidelines. Bailey even had the advantage of seeing where the ball was going, meanwhile Miles had his back to Romo.

And Miles would have too if he had turned his head around and saw the ball.

It was a good throw. It was a safe throw. And with the game 10-7 and not a lot of scoring, you throw the safe pass and go away at the worst with three points.

That was squarely on Austin. Or I guess you think Tony is suppose to wait until the receiver is fully open before he throws the ball. Austin needs to step up and make the play.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I thought Austin and Hurd played WR in college? They werent QB's like Crayton....

and if its because they were undrafted FA players.......so was Tony Romo...

so in others words....I dont understand your point

should we draft WR's from bigger schools? I dont know....Austin and Hurd have been in this system a long time and have supposely a great WR coach....

Those guys were huge projects. They pretty much got a shot with us because of their speed and/or size. I dont care where they went to school or where they were drafted. There are your Pierre Garcons and Steve Smiths who were already technically sound before they got into the league. It's what year 4 for Hurd/Austin and they still struggle to run a nice tight route.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

Bailey knew where the ball was going because he was 5 yards behind Austin looking directly at Romo. He could react directly to the throw, and even then it took a spectacular diving catch.

If Austin breaks the right way he is well in front of Champ to catch that ball.

Romo did a lot of stuff wrong yesterday, but that wasn't one of them.

Exactly. Austin had position on that throw. He was in front of Bailey and was supposed to be up against the sideline. That was a safe throw. Austin ****ed it up. Bailey had to dive for it because he was further back than Austin would have been.

The throw would have been right on the money and it would have been a completion.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Bailey knew where the ball was going because he was 5 yards behind Austin looking directly at Romo. He could react directly to the throw, and even then it took a spectacular diving catch.

If Austin breaks the right way he is well in front of Champ to catch that ball.

Romo did a lot of stuff wrong yesterday, but that wasn't one of them.

I just bumped into Romo and he asked If you could please pass the cool-aid; he's thirsty for excuses too and you seem to have a good one.

Fact is, Bailey baited Romo all game long into ill-judged throws; the one in question and the two at hte end, among others.

But hey, cool-aid for everybody!

 

[tyke1doe]

Bailey knew where the ball was going because he was 5 yards behind Austin looking directly at Romo. He could react directly to the throw, and even then it took a spectacular diving catch.

If Austin breaks the right way he is well in front of Champ to catch that ball.

Romo did a lot of stuff wrong yesterday, but that wasn't one of them.

 

[tyke1doe]

I just bumped into Romo and he asked If you could please pass the cool-aid; he's thirsty for excuses too and you seem to have a good one.

Fact is, Bailey baited Romo all game long into ill-judged throws; the one in question and the two at hte end, among others.

But hey, cool-aid for everybody!

Bailey didn't bait Romo. If Austin gets in the face of the defender, Bailey doesn't catch the ball.

This isn't touch football where you throw the ball when guys get clearly open. It's the NFL where quarterbacks have to make split-second decisions and need to trust their receivers are where they're suppose to be.

 

[Mash]

Those guys were huge projects. They pretty much got a shot with us because of their speed and/or size. I dont care where they went to school or where they were drafted. There are your Pierre Garcons and Steve Smiths who were already technically sound before they got into the league. It's what year 4 for Hurd/Austin and they still struggle to run a nice tight route.

And your point is? Should we draft a player in the 1st like RW? He runs crisp tight routes.........not

You said "There are so many technical and instinctual things that Austin and Hurd are lacking as WRs simply becasue of their background"

My point is.....it has nothing to do with their background.....maybe the players just suck.....Crayton and Ward played had no background at WR and they run solid routes.

 

[aikemirv]

Funny, but Champ Bailey knew exactly where the pass was going because he was right there in position to intercept it. In other words, the route was CLEARLY COVERED, and so Romo sohuld not have thrown that ball at all. But hey, Mr. Gunslinger, you know...?

You can critisize Romo for the overthrows and whatever but ragging him for that throw, that was actually placed perfect if Miles turns outside is so ridiculous I can't even fathom it. Champ was beat inside and outside and Miles turned inside. Champ was 3 yards behind the play and diving to catch that coming forward.