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Well, we are 2-2. Could have been 1-3 and just as easily could have been 4-0.

We have been spotty in about every area we could be. We have not been awful anywhere, nor have we been great in any area either.

Passing offense:

We have seen more of the "good" Bledsoe than the "bad", but the threat of the "bad" has perhaps made Parcells and Payton too cautious with our passing game. Key has made big plays, but has had two boneheaded penalties in both our losses and both meant FGs instead of TDs. Glenn has been solid except for two routes run too short. Crayton has made some big plays, but is too free with the ball. Witten has been underused, and we lost two games because of throws to Glenn with Witten open. The backs have been a non-factor, for the most part. The OL has held up fairly well in protection, but had some breakdowns at crucial times.


Rushing Offense:

We have been okay, but have lacked the big play. I don't like that stretch play that we seem to use about a third of the time. That as well as play calling have made us inconsistent and have kept us from dictating the game. The blocking has been inconsistent.

Pass defense:

We have gone from solid to terrible and back. The pass rush has improved, but we seem to always just miss getting there at crucial times. Other than 3 plays the cornerback play has been pretty solid, if not spectacular. FS is another matter.

Run defense:

Has been Jekyll and Hyde. We shut down two of the best RBs than have trouble with SF and Oakland. This is where we lost the Raider game.

Special teams:

We started off awful, but have improved in every area. We still seem to make a mistake when it will hurt us the most.

Coaching:

Just like all our other areas we have been spotty here as well. We have had more than a few of those, "What the hell was that call," on both sides of the ball. I think we have been slow to adjust, especially on offense, and we seem to stick with things too long that are not working, and go away too quickly when something is working. We tend to get cute instead of sticking with what has been working. Sometimes it seems that we are over-thinking what the opposition is going to do, and change up before they take it away.

Overall, I'd say we have some problems in run blocking, LB and FS that are keeping us from clicking. That was to be expected with all the young guys and added pieces, but it has been the vets and the coaching that is compounding the problem.

I'd say we may be more in a complete rebuilding mode than many thought. Our talent has improved, and I don't see us losing many games by 20, but I can see us struggling to be a .500 team.
 

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Mark my words here....IF we finish 8-8 we will come back to Sept. and it will be the Commanders game and the Radiers game that kept us from being 10-6 and a playoff team...

Write it down...
 

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KingTuna said:
Mark my words here....IF we finish 8-8 we will come back to Sept. and it will be the Commanders game and the Radiers game that kept us from being 10-6 and a playoff team...

Write it down...

Gee, ya think that 2 losses will be the difference between 8-8 and 10-6?:D
 

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Mark my words Nors if we beat the eagles, there is no way we go 8-8, i think the confidence that game breeds, we wont be let down like we were at against the Commanders. Bottom line, we made a mistakes, like all young teams do, and in every game we have been there in the fourth quarter. Our D hasnt layed down for anyone, and taking away the Commander game hasnt allowed a fourth quarter TD, in all four games. Say what you want but it's only a matter of time before everything is running on all cylinders.
 

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Good take, BZ. I dunno, I think peoples expectations are too high sometimes. I guess they think we're the Cowboys. we inherently rock (unless we screw it up ourselves)!

Well this just in.. we're just another run of the mill team thats just as liable to lose any game as we are to win it. Which isnt sayin much other than realizing we're not the total dregs.

With a team made up the way ours is... too young at certain positions and too old at others.. as well as totally mediocre at many in between, it's just really hard to do anything consistently well.

Like the O-line for example. Just a total mish mash. Rookie RT, FA pickup at RG, a Center position by comittee and a left side (which is supposedly the strength) made up of a couple guys that seem to just be content to pick up a paycheck. Not gonna be a lot of cohesiveness or effectiveness like that.
 

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One of the most disturbing things so far this season is Bledsoe's treatment of Witten.

Much has been written about how BP had to convince Bledsoe to throw the ball to Johnson - even if he seemed covered and how Bledoe had to learn to trust Johnson.

Well, that seems to be working OK and now Bill needs to have the same talk re: Witten. All Bledsoe needs to do is watch tape from last year and he should be convinced Witten is the real deal. This needs to be fixed in a hurry.
 

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te0002 said:
One of the most disturbing things so far this season is Bledsoe's treatment of Witten.

Much has been written about how BP had to convince Bledsoe to throw the ball to Johnson - even if he seemed covered and how Bledoe had to learn to trust Johnson.

Well, that seems to be working OK and now Bill needs to have the same talk re: Witten. All Bledsoe needs to do is watch tape from last year and he should be convinced Witten is the real deal. This needs to be fixed in a hurry.

Bledsoe should send him roses and a love letter then we will start winning :p:
 

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What's really sad is this is sounding alot like the extreme skins board after they benched Ramsey.
 

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I predicted we would be clicking on D by midseason......so we have 4 more weeks to go.

The O at times has looked better than I had anticipated.

The coaching leaves me scratching that bald spot on my head more often than not.


I like the teams "never giveup attitude"....something to build on. Maybe our year is next year......we will have to wait and see how the season plays out.

If we can gel in the second half of the season, as many expect, we will be fine; however It would be nice to win at least one of the next two.

Excellent post BZ
 

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te0002 said:
One of the most disturbing things so far this season is Bledsoe's treatment of Witten.

Much has been written about how BP had to convince Bledsoe to throw the ball to Johnson - even if he seemed covered and how Bledoe had to learn to trust Johnson.

Well, that seems to be working OK and now Bill needs to have the same talk re: Witten. All Bledsoe needs to do is watch tape from last year and he should be convinced Witten is the real deal. This needs to be fixed in a hurry.
I agree 100%. Witten needs to be a 1st or 2nd option in the redzone. Through the 1st 4 weeks, I think he has only dropped one pass that he could have caught. In that time though, he's made some spectacular catches that should have been incompletions. Also, how about dragging 4 guys 8yads for a first down. The guy really needs to be involved. Other coaches must be asking themselves why we aren't throwing the ball to him more? Only our coaches seem ok with it.
 

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This team has tons of heart, swagger, guts, passion and will . How some of you cant see that is just weird to me.

this is a 10-6 hard nosed , tough mother fing team. we will beat the eagles next week and you'll be back kissing parcells big tuna ***.
 

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te0002 said:
One of the most disturbing things so far this season is Bledsoe's treatment of Witten.

Much has been written about how BP had to convince Bledsoe to throw the ball to Johnson - even if he seemed covered and how Bledoe had to learn to trust Johnson.

Well, that seems to be working OK and now Bill needs to have the same talk re: Witten. All Bledsoe needs to do is watch tape from last year and he should be convinced Witten is the real deal. This needs to be fixed in a hurry.

You guys know he has one less catch and more yards than he did after 4 games last year, right?
 

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MikeD17 said:
This team has tons of heart, swagger, guts, passion and will . How some of you cant see that is just weird to me.

this is a 10-6 hard nosed , tough mother fing team. we will beat the eagles next week and you'll be back kissing parcells big tuna ***.

I like a lot of players on this team, but if anything, I'd say they lack heart, swagger and guts.

They all seem like a bunch of nice, hard working, high character guys. But I think the team is missing a couple of border line mean, intense fiery leaders.
 

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You guys know he has one less catch and more yards than he did after 4 games last year, right?


I can see that, between JJ injury, and Glenn's injury, and the fact that Too many differnt colored jersey's were cathing the ball i think Vinny understood that Witten can catch. Eventually BLedsoe will find him.
 

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MikeD17 said:
This team has tons of heart, swagger, guts, passion and will . How some of you cant see that is just weird to me.

this is a 10-6 hard nosed , tough mother fing team. we will beat the eagles next week and you'll be back kissing parcells big tuna ***.

Teams with tons of heart, swagger, guts, passion and will don't lose to suck teams like the Skins and Raiders, or trail the 49ers. I don't care if it's on the road, at home, on Jupiter...anywhere. About all I see in this team is potential. It's nice to have, but I'm honestly at the point where I just want a team that plays up to its ability and builds on what it has done in prior weeks/seasons.

...and if we beat the Eagles, I'll be the first to admit I know nothing about football anymore.
 

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You guys know he has one less catch and more yards than he did after 4 games last year, right?

Progress is not measured by meeting last year's accomplishments. He's a veteran player and one of the best TEs in the game at this point. It should not be a struggle to get him the ball. The first 4 games have not been an expansion of what he was producing late last year.

Same goes for Julius.
 

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Progress is not measured by meeting last year's accomplishments. He's a veteran player and one of the best TEs in the game at this point. It should not be a struggle to get him the ball. The first 4 games have not been an expansion of what he was producing late last year.

The point is he is not being 'ignored'.

He is being double teamed this year early and often. He is being specifically game planned for in a way he never was last year.

SF decided not to double him the first half of that game and he grabbed 6 catches in 2 quarters. They fixed their mistake in the 2nd half and Drew went elsewhere with the ball. It's not about 'ignoring' Witten.

There is a lot of over-reaction going on here.
 

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zagnut said:
Progress is not measured by meeting last year's accomplishments. He's a veteran player and one of the best TEs in the game at this point. It should not be a struggle to get him the ball. The first 4 games have not been an expansion of what he was producing late last year.

Same goes for Julius.


WEll in the case of JJ it make it real hard tobe this great explosive guy when everytime you get the ball there are opposicte color jerseys looking at you.

And with witten when you have people you know covering the guy, it really make sit kind of hard to throw the ball to him.
 
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