Auburn investigation

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Carnell Williams is part of an academic investigation at Auburn that alleges the players received A's for attending no classes and doing little work.
Professor Thomas Petee reportedly instructed at least 18 2004 Auburn football players in individual classes that are coming under scrutiny. Auburn surprisingly ranked with the highest grades of any D-I major conference football team that season.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/14/s...ml?ex=1153022400&en=66449d169bf13c58&ei=5087

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Carnell Williams is part of an academic investigation at Auburn that alleges the players received A's for attending no classes and doing little work.
Professor Thomas Petee reportedly instructed at least 18 2004 Auburn football players in individual classes that are coming under scrutiny. Auburn surprisingly ranked with the highest grades of any D-I major conference football team that season.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/14/s...ml?ex=1153022400&en=66449d169bf13c58&ei=5087

No big surprise IMO. Been going on for years. Also, not the only program this kind of thing goes on with.

 

[Funxva]

No big surprise IMO. Been going on for years. Also, not the only program this kind of thing goes on with.

All I have to say is where teachers like that for me when I was in school?

 

[Yeagermeister]

All I have to say is where teachers like that for me when I was in school?

Were you a football player?

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Didn't Dexter Manley go to Auburn?

 

[AbeBeta]

Carnell Williams is part of an academic investigation at Auburn that alleges the players received A's for attending no classes and doing little work.

lots of college courses these days will give you a high grade for doing very little - professors have broad authority to evaulate performance anyway they want to - this one will be pretty hard to prove

people get upset about this stuff but what they should be angry about is that most college athletes get extensive tutoring and assistance with assignments and studying for free so that they can pass classes - that sort of opportunity isn't available to most students - most folks would do better in classes if they had someone checking their work all the time.

 

[BlueStar22]

No big surprise IMO. Been going on for years. Also, not the only program this kind of thing goes on with.

Exactly, anyone who has attended any D-1A school knows this. I saw it all the time at Southern Miss. I worked in the student union in college and remember coming across an essay left in the rec hall, written by a football player. This garbage had spelling errors, puncuation errors, grammatical errors, etc. and had a big fat 98 circled in red at the top. It's sad really.

 

[Duane]

A friend of mine went to a major Texas university in the 90's on football scholarship. He said as long as he was starting he'd get good grades. Basically he got his books for the semester, put them in a box in the closet at the beginning of the season and took them out at the end of the season.

 

[AbeBeta]

A friend of mine went to a major Texas university in the 90's on football scholarship. He said as long as he was starting he'd get good grades. Basically he got his books for the semester, put them in a box in the closet at the beginning of the season and took them out at the end of the season.

unfortunately that describes a lot of college students who are not athletes -- except the book part. many don't even bother getting the books now.

 

[EMMITTnROY]

hmmm.. so does that mean that between this and all the USC scandals, we should throw out that whole USC/Auburn split national championship thing and split it between OU and Utah? I think so!!

 

[BlueStar22]

unfortunately that describes a lot of college students who are not athletes -- except the book part. many don't even bother getting the books now.

not those that are their on their own or their parent's dime.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

hmmm.. so does that mean that between this and all the USC scandals, we should throw out that whole USC/Auburn split national championship thing and split it between OU and Utah? I think so!!

Well, I think it should be Utah. OU lost in the bowl that year, I believe. Utah didn't so yeah, I think it should be Utah.

 

[EMMITTnROY]

Well, I think it should be Utah. OU lost in the bowl that year, I believe. Utah didn't so yeah, I think it should be Utah.

very true.. BUT.. OU finished 3rd in the final rankings that year and Utah 4th, even with Utah being undefeated.. plus the fact that OU actually played in the championship game.. pay no mind to the fact that I am indeed an OU fan.. that's got nothing to do with this.. :

 

[Yeagermeister]

Well, I think it should be Utah. OU lost in the bowl that year, I believe. Utah didn't so yeah, I think it should be Utah.

I say give it to Utah just because the other team is OU

 

[EMMITTnROY]

I say give it to Utah just because the other team is OU

HEY!! :fight:

 

[AbeBeta]

not those that are their on their own or their parent's dime.

you work at a uni?

I'm talking from years of direct experience here.

 

[Funxva]

Were you a football player?

LOL, yup! And basketball! But of course, half of that was at a Catholic school, so maybe that's why... And I'm not even Catholic! Yeag.. you just helped me realize! It was a damn conspiracy!

 

[GTaylor]

Didn't Dexter Manley go to Auburn?

Oklahoma State, and this was his coach:

 

[Concord]

Hey I thought Ohio St was the only College that did this.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Hey I thought Ohio St was the only College that did this.

They were the only ones to get caught