Audio: Gil Lebreton on GAC talks Dan Reeves

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Gil Lebreton on GAC
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The Jerry as 'good cop' and Reeves as 'Bad Cop' sounds like a normal situation to me.

IF REEVES WAS THE HEAD COACH!

Where the heck does that leave Wade...

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Useless.

Or as Defensive Coordinator.

It's a step forward I think if Reeves was here.

But it just goes back to the idea that Wade should have been fired when the season ended.

Why all the extra steps here?

It's a recurring theme with the Dallas Cowboys.

Too many people who are supposed to be in charge and then not really anyone being in charge.

An All-Star cast of coaches with a guy who hasn't even ever won a playoff game leading them.

Then 46 player captains.

Does adding Reeves really add up to the right formual or does it just make this even more of a mad scientist project waiting to explode in 2009?

Is the draft here yet?
 

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if Jerry listens to Reeves and does what Reeves feels is the best for us than things will start to work out. but until that happens I just think Dan is coming aboard to simply collect a pay check and give himself something to do.
 

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BigDFan5;2609442 said:
If Wade was gone Reeves wouldnt be coming here

Well, he is a former Cowboy, and his son-in-law is on the staff.
 

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bbgun;2609452 said:
Well, he is a former Cowboy, and his son-in-law is on the staff.

I know this, but he is friends with Wade not Jerry or Garrett
 

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Hiring Reeves as a consultant goes back to the idea that Wade should've been fired? What?

I'm understanding the TO fans' point the other day about DC's posts.

IIRC, even Lebreton said that Wade could work if Jerry would get some good advice and stay out of the coach's way.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2609456 said:
Hiring Reeves as a consultant goes back to the idea that Wade should've been fired? What?

I'm understanding the TO fans' point the other day about DC's posts.

IIRC, even Lebreton said that Wade could work if Jerry would get some good advice and stay out of the coach's way.


and who better to give Jerry advice but someone who Wade trusts
 

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BigDFan5;2609454 said:
I know this, but he is friends with Wade not Jerry or Garrett

Wade is incidental. The fact that Dan's a former Cowboy who wants to get back into the game was motivation enough. The SIL angle was the sweetener.
 

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Well, it's not a normal situation, but I like having good football around. No one minded when Bill Parcells consulted with as many football guys as he could. I would like to see Jerry do more of the same because Larry Lacewell just doesn't cut it for me...

But I think a bad cop is needed for this franchise. Wade's not it, and that's fine. He knows he's not it. He treats his players with respect, and sometimes they take advantage of that. But I believe that Jerry is cut from the same cloth. I think Jerry would rather be buddies with the players than get really tough on them. And if he does have to get tough with them, I think that he would rather someone else have to deliver the message...

Dan Reeves is a smart, good man who knows football. If he can come in here as a sounding board for Jerry, Wade, Garrett, and anyone else, it's a good deal. If he gets a nice paycheck to do some of the dirty work that Wade and Jerry don't like to do, that's okay too.

As long as the players understand the end result, bottom-line is that they better get in line, I don't care how it's done.
 

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bbgun;2609467 said:
Wade is incidental. The fact that Dan's a former Cowboy who wants to get back into the game was motivation enough. The SIL angle was the sweetener.

I totally disagree with you. Wade is the main factor here.
 

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BigDFan5;2609471 said:
I totally disagree with you. Wade is the main factor here.

There's no doubt. Jerry's never given much of a damn about the Cowboys who retired before he took over.

That's why even if Wade is canned next year like everyone expects, this has a chance to help the franchise for a long time to come. Jerry and the Jones family have needed to expand their circle of football friends and confidants, because up to now it's mainly been old college buddies like Lacewell and Switzer or connections to former Jerry players and coaches like Garrett and Dat.

Reeves knows a lot of people around the league and can be a good resource to the Joneses in many ways. So this can be a nice contribution from Wade to the franchise, if you ask me.
 

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bbgun;2609467 said:
Wade is incidental. The fact that Dan's a former Cowboy who wants to get back into the game was motivation enough. The SIL angle was the sweetener.
It's not about Reeves wanting to work here or being a former Cowboys. It's about the organization wanting him. If Wade wasn't here, the team wouldn't be going after him for a consultant position. And I seriuosly doubt that he'd be at the top of Jerry's list for HC, though that's not a knock on Reeves.
 

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I just don't understand why Jerry Jones doesn't hire Dan Reeves as Head Coach?

Why bring a guy in and give him duties that is really the responsibility of the Head Coach?

I know people feel Wade Phillips is supportve of this move but it just seems like Jerry Jones is demonstrating that he thinks Wade Philliips is lacking in areas and doesn't have the ability to improve.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2609456 said:
Hiring Reeves as a consultant goes back to the idea that Wade should've been fired? What?

I'm understanding the TO fans' point the other day about DC's posts.

IIRC, even Lebreton said that Wade could work if Jerry would get some good advice and stay out of the coach's way.

Wow. Let's hear how you understand the TFC's point of view?

And.

How hard is it to understand my point is that it's disgusting that we need two men to do the job of one man.

The head coach should be in control.

Now we are looking to bring in Reeves because when Wade has an issue to talk with Jerry about he needs to run around Valley Ranch looking for Reeves?

How about Wade grows a backbone. That seems a little simplier to me.

Or how about we just fire the doofus already and go in a different direction.

This ship is sinking. Get off it and go buy another one. Don't try to patch up 134 little holes because all you are going to do is drown.
 

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I don't know if this is such a poor reflection on Wade.

Despite the way he's characterized in the media, I look at Wade Phillips as being a guy with a lot of pride. I think the "aw-shucks" thing gets misconstrued with him.

I can actually easily envision a scenario where Wade told Jerry some of the things that needed to happen, and then told him to check with someone like Dan Reeves, if he didn't believe it. I just think Wade is pretty secure with his football knowledge, and I can see him calling on a guy like Dan Reeves to testify for him...

I can also see Jerry appreciating Dan Reeves' input and wanting to bring him aboard to consult - not coach or anything else. But another voice from a football guy is not a bad thing.
 

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dcfanatic;2609629 said:
Wow. Let's hear how you understand the TFC's point of view?
Because everything turns an opportunity to bash someone. Usually it's TO; in this case it's Wade.

The Barney Fife pic was very original, though.

And.

How hard is it to understand my point is that it's disgusting that we need two men to do the job of one man.

Who are you talking about?

Considering Reeves has always been an offensive guy, maybe you mean Garrett.

The head coach should be in control.

Now we are looking to bring in Reeves because when Wade has an issue to talk with Jerry about he needs to run around Valley Ranch looking for Reeves?

Who said that's why we were bringing in Reeves? You're just imagining that because it fits what you want to believe.

We don't even know what Reeves' exact role will be yet. I think it's to add another experienced football voice that Jerry can get ideas from when he needs to, which is great. I don't think it's at all to become the hall monitor around here. If Reeves thought Wade was the incompetent bumpkin you do, he never would've hired him to be his defensive coordinator.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2609546 said:
I just don't understand why Jerry Jones doesn't hire Dan Reeves as Head Coach?

Why bring a guy in and give him duties that is really the responsibility of the Head Coach?

I know people feel Wade Phillips is supportve of this move but it just seems like Jerry Jones is demonstrating that he thinks Wade Philliips is lacking in areas and doesn't have the ability to improve.
It's easy to understand once you realize that Reeves is coming here because Wade wants him to. He's Garrett's babysitter/tutor.
 

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ddh33;2609647 said:
I don't know if this is such a poor reflection on Wade.

Despite the way he's characterized in the media, I look at Wade Phillips as being a guy with a lot of pride. I think the "aw-shucks" thing gets misconstrued with him.

I can actually easily envision a scenario where Wade told Jerry some of the things that needed to happen, and then told him to check with someone like Dan Reeves, if he didn't believe it. I just think Wade is pretty secure with his football knowledge, and I can see him calling on a guy like Dan Reeves to testify for him...

I can also see Jerry appreciating Dan Reeves' input and wanting to bring him aboard to consult - not coach or anything else. But another voice from a football guy is not a bad thing.

Like I said.

Two people for the job of one.

Just get a 'real head coach' Jerry!

Wade is a defensive coordinator, period point blank!
 

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I differ from some people in that I think Wade Phillips can do this job and do it well. I just think you have to understand certain things about his kind of personality and give him the best chance to succeed.

But what I really think Wade needs is a locker room filled with good guys who will discipline and police themselves because that isn't Wade's strong suit. I think Wade needs a little bit of a bad guy on his staff because that just isn't his style either...

But I do believe that Wade can coach this defense better than anyone, and I think he can work well with a guy like Garrett on offense.

If anything, my hope is that Dan Reeves comes along and echos some of the things Wade believes in...
 
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