Audio: Todd Archer talks Romo on KTBB - 1/22/09

[Mansta54]

Save it Yakuza, Werder says what they want to hear so they worship at the ESPN altar, praying that the TO-infidels will realize his evil.

Until then, the jihad continues.

 

[irvin4evs]

Name one media member that you trust.

Exactly.

Jason Whitlock and.... uhhh.... uhhh. Huh.

 

[jobberone]

So we should take Archer's word that Werder wouldn't lie...

Maybe I should ask my ex's lawyer if I got a good deal.

If he says Werder wouldn't lie about it then I believe it. I also believe Werder would take anything said and sensationalize it regardless of how worthy the source was on this particular topic. And obviously put his spin on it.

 

[irvin4evs]

Werder is up to no good, bottom line. He may have an anonymous source, but that source is probably sketchy as hell, and journalist folks know how to make wizardry out of the English language.

It may not be pure deception, but the craft of rhetoric and the implications rhetoric carries are well known to the smartest writers.

 

[khiladi]

I don't think that Werder would lie either. What I do think is that if he either one of them were to get a source that they could hide behind as unidentifeid that produced a sensationalizing story they wouldn't think twice about it

Out of one hundred lies the devil tells one truth. Werder sugar-coats one alleged happening with his own spin, distorting the actual reality of events, such that it becomes a blatant lie. He is responsible for it and that is damn straight a lie in my eyes.

 

[WarDaddy]

Is there a club around here or something that I don't know about where some members get together and talk about me?

How about just sticking to the topic on hand.

The Dallas Cowboys.

I remember posting a thread mid-season that talked about leadership problems in Big D and I got undeservingly clowned for it. The timing might have been suspect but the idea turned out being right on the money. It was about T.O. so you would think you would have been all over it...

You saw fit to take a dump on that opinion.

I guess what goes around comes around...

 

[TNCowboy]

Remember when that kid told us a story about meeting Roy Williams.

And I questioned why others weren't upset with Roy's comments.

Others did too.

Then dcfanatic came and said we had an agenda.

Good stuff.

How is it you believe some random guy who had his picture taken with Roy at a basketball game, but mostly dismiss most reports about TO?

 

[5Countem5]

I remember posting a thread mid-season that talked about leadership problems in Big D and I got undeservingly clowned for it. The timing might have been suspect but the idea turned out being right on the money. It was about T.O. so you would think you would have been all over it...

You saw fit to take a dump on that opinion.

I guess what goes around comes around...

Congratulations...

Is this the "I told you so" post or what?

 

[dcfanatic]

Nooooooo.

His job is to report the news FACTUALLY and by upholding journalistic standards. By your standards he would be a tabloid reporter. They write stuff that generates interest, but is often not true.

Getting ONE source reporting a rumor that has never really come close to being true is not FACTUAL reporting and not using the journalist standards of getting at least 3 sources when reporting a rumor.

Again, if Mr. Blue Suit didn't have a great propensity to keep being dead wrong on his stories, I'd give him some leeway. But after awhile I wonder whether or not he made it up or he at least knew the source probably was lying or didn't know what he was talking about, but decided to publish it anyway.




For some people, it is.



Not always. As Mr. Blue Suit stated, his anonymous source was 'somebody who regularly speaks to Owens' teammates.' Knowing Mr. Blue Suit and reading his articles and listening to his reports in the past, if the source was a player, he had no problem saying the source was 'a player in the Cowboys organization' or 'a player in the Cowboys locker room.'

It wasn't a player. He would have said as such.

But the rest of the media is claiming it is because Owens thinks it is a player. Owens doesn't really know if it is or not (and judging by how Mr. Blue Suit phrased it, it's likely not a player), but for some reason the media now believe Owens when he says he *thinks* it's a player.

Same ole crap from the media.



You mean Owens who refused to answer any of Mr. Blue Suit's questions for at least a month before the Mr. Blue Suit article came out?

Or how about the Owens that refused to talk to the media before the 2007 season and the media's response was 'well, he's not talking to us TO GET attention.'

Yes, the organization has some problems. Mainly we have an owner who likes the spotlight and drama and likes to put his team in the spotlight and the drama a bit too much. And I'm a Jerry Jones fan. But, the team must realize that no matter what they do, the media...particularly the local Dallas media and ESPN are always going to try and find ways to stir the pot and make up some negativity. So they had better get used to limiting the questions they answer and just ignoring what the media says because it's probably untrue or completely overblown.



Cris Carter stated that they should put a bullet in Owens' head. Mr. Blue Suit reported that Keith Davis was dead a couple of years ago. Mr. Blue Suit reported that Parcells was going to retire after '03, then '04, then '05. Merril Hoge said the Cowboys will be better with Brad Johnson than Tony Romo.

BSP...err, I mean ESPN ain't making anybody look foolish anytime soon. Sledgehammer meets glass house.




Yes, but if Mr. Blue Suit knew his sources were lying and reported that anyway, that makes him a liar in my eyes and the eyes of many others. You seem to excuse that as being okay and 'doing his job.' His job is to report things factually. Even if he didn't know they were lying and the story is not true, then HE DID NOT DO HIS JOB.

YAKUZA

Mr. Blue suit? BSPN?

Are we supposed to think you aren't going to spin this to make a point against the journalists after seeing those terms used?

LOL.

And I love your explanation that Werder is now not only a reporter, but he's also now expected to be a lie detector machine, lol.

Todd Archer had one source to write the story about Romo's interview. I guess he shouldn't have written it because there weren't three sources right?

That's the guidelines you just set up.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Mr. Blue suit? BSPN?

Are we supposed to think you aren't going to spin this to make a point against the journalists after seeing those terms used?

LOL.

And I love your explanation that Werder is now not only a reporter, but he's also now expected to be a lie detector machine, lol.

Todd Archer had one source to write the story about Romo's interview. I guess he shouldn't have written it because there weren't three sources right?

That's the guidelines you just set up.

For someone who like to watch so much of it you really don't understand how newsreporting works.

Look up what hearsay is and get back to us.

 

[dcfanatic]

I remember posting a thread mid-season that talked about leadership problems in Big D and I got undeservingly clowned for it. The timing might have been suspect but the idea turned out being right on the money. It was about T.O. so you would think you would have been all over it...

You saw fit to take a dump on that opinion.

I guess what goes around comes around...

I did...

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130881

I basically said you sounded like Emmitt Smith.

Which you did because it was the same line of thinking Emmitt was taking at the time.

Here's the funny part.

I can't remember if I was 'with you' or 'against you' because my comment was so vague.

But you come back four months later to cry that I took a dump on you?


Seriously. I am not that important. Please put me on ignore.

 

[dcfanatic]

Congratulations...

Is this the "I told you so" post or what?

I am putting this right below the one above so you look just as foolish as always.

You must really love punishment.

 

[5Countem5]

I am putting this right below the one above so you look just as foolish as always.

You must really love punishment.

I'm sure you'd recognize it...

 

[dcfanatic]

Remember when that kid told us a story about meeting Roy Williams.

And I questioned why others weren't upset with Roy's comments.

Others did too.

Then dcfanatic came and said we had an agenda.

Good stuff.

It was great stuff.

At first I read the comments wrong. And so did Chocolate Lab.

We both thoght the second question, 'So are you and T.O. happy?' was a stand alone question. We then figured out it pertained to the original question about Jason Garrett leaving for the Rams which at the time we all thought was a definite.

You left all that out though.

But I guess you also missed of left out the following too.

Once I got that straightened out I not only posted on my blog about the meeting between Will and Roy. but...

I actually interviewed Will and put the interview on DCFanatic Radio.

http://dcfanatic.com/2009/01/19/jason-garrett-has-to-win-back-some-people-next-season.aspx

And?

 

[dcfanatic]

For someone who like to watch so much of it you really don't understand how newsreporting works.

Look up what hearsay is and get back to us.

'Hearsay'.

That's a term used in the court room Mr. Cochran.

Last I checked there was no Dallas Cowboys vs ESPN in the works.

But I did 'hear' some Cowboys players and coaches 'say' that it's not the media's fault this season was a disaster.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

'Hearsay'.

That's a term used in the court room Mr. Cochran.

Last I checked there was no Dallas Cowboys vs ESPN in the works.

But I did 'hear' some Cowboys players and coaches 'say' that it's not the media's fault this season was a disaster.

Its used in other places as well. You verify hearsay not recorded interviews.

You have the audacity to call other people foolish. Thats nice.

 

[dcfanatic]

Werder is up to no good, bottom line. He may have an anonymous source, but that source is probably sketchy as hell, and journalist folks know how to make wizardry out of the English language.

It may not be pure deception, but the craft of rhetoric and the implications rhetoric carries are well known to the smartest writers.

So the writers tricked us with their wizardry?

 

[5Countem5]

So the writers tricked us with their wizardry?

US? No.

Just you and people like you....

 

[dcfanatic]

Its used in other places as well. You verify hearsay not recorded interviews.

You have the audacity to call other people foolish. Thats nice.

Yeah, it's used in here when you got nothing left.

And I am assuming you didn't bother to listen to the Werder interview I ut up in this thread where he describes what his process was for writing that article. The one where he said his bosses cleared the sources in advance of the article being written.

But I know.

He's a liar and so are his bosses.

And on and on.

Werder is a hack because your favorite team sports team can't shut their traps and act like professionals.

We get it.

 

[dcfanatic]

US? No.

Just you and people like you....

Well than thank God for that.

My bad. I was trickeded into thinking that this team was a mess right now.

But I have one last question for you.

If the team is 'still on the tracks' then why did Terrell Owens just last say last night that he and Romo were going to 'get this thing back on track'?

He was probably kidding right. Yeah, he was kidding. They were all just joking around and joshing us.

Everything is great folks!!!

We are playing the Steelers in Super Bowl XLIII!!!!!

Wooooo Hoooooo!!!!