AZ fans worried about Fitz

[mr.jameswoods]

This guy is a STUD. Get your glasses checked. There is NOTHING you can say that can change my mind on the talent that Larry Fitzgerald has. I coud care less where you live........I could not disagree with you more on this. He is without question, a top 5 WR in this league.

Likewise, I actually watch their games and not Sports Center highlights so you aren't changing my mind

 

[Big Dakota]

He probably won't get released...you know, the re-structure thing?


The Midget does it all the time...

Unless HE wants out, then he could force their hand.

 

[Sarge]

Likewise, I actually watch their games and not Sports Center highlights so you aren't changing my mind

Ya - that's what I thought.............hero.

 

[Da Hammer]

hopefully fitz will refuse to restructure and he will be released! it would be the smart move in the long run for him even if he doesnt come to the cowboys because he would likely join a contender anyways and get his money. although hopefully its us

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Ya - that's what I thought.............hero.

Okay, whatever that means

 

[Sarge]

Okay, whatever that means

OK - what it means is - this....are you telling me that because you live in AZ you have seen more of LF play than me? Just curious?

 

[mr.jameswoods]

OK - what it means is - this....are you telling me that because you live in AZ you have seen more of LF play than me? Just curious?

When you have Cardinal season tickets and sit on the 4th row of the 20 yard line for the past 2 seasons, you can tell me you have seen more of Larry than me

 

[Sarge]

When you have Cardinal season tickets and sit on the 4th row of the 20 yard line for the past 2 seasons, you can tell me you have seen more of Larry than me

Which brings us back to square one - get your glasses checked or move your seats up to the 3rd row.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Which brings us back to square one - get your glasses checked or move your seats up to the 3rd row.

I got a better suggestion, why don't you actually watch him play an entire game instead of seeing the highlight reels on Sports Center.

If I have a question about the Bills, I'll defer to you okay

 

[Sarge]

I got a better suggestion, why don't you actually watch him play an entire game instead of seeing the highlight reels on Sports Center.

If I have a question about the Bills, I'll defer to you okay

The Bills? What do the Bills have to do with this?

I can watch any game I want to every and any, single weekend I want to - did that ever cross your mind genius?

So, once again...are you assuming I have never seen him play an entire game?

I'm getting it now...you actually have to live in the same state as the player plays to know anything about him or to have even seen him play right?

Yaaaaaaaaaaaa............ok.

 

[slick325]

You don't want this guy. I watch him every weekend (I live in Phoenix). I love the guy because he is a class act but he has no speed and has difficulty getting separation. Most of the catches he makes are over the middle or because he outleaps people. He is a younger Plaxico Burress. He gets a lot of passes thrown his way which inflates his numbers. Good guy and good player but not the type of player than you and most fans in the league envision him to be. He really can't stretch a defense

In order to "stretch" a defense you need only get behind the CB once in a while. That doesn't require blazing speed at all. Michael Irvin commanded a double team and averaged more yards per catch than most of the receivers in the Hall of Fame. He was far from a guy who got great separation. The same applies to Jerry Rice, Andre Reed and Cris Carter.

I watch a great deal of Fitz and watched him in college, I think he has more "speed" than the men I mentioned in the previous paragraph. He is a stud and constantly beats one on one coverage, that's why his numbers are so inflated. He plays alongside Boldin who has been the #1 receiver in AZ and demands double teams, so if a QB follows his progressions properly he will find the person in one on one matchups. The fact that he put up the numbers he did this season tells me that you can't put him in a one on one situation too often as a defense because he will make you pay.

 

[yimyammer]

I wish we could get him.

He is going to be a Superstar at some point in his career.

The dude is like 23 or 24 and has already had a very nice career.

Agreed! He's my favorite player I wish we'd acquire. Definately worth a first IMHO

 

[Sarge]

Agreed! He's my favorite player I wish we'd acquire. Definately worth a first IMHO

He's no good- Mr.Jameswood has seen him in play person........ .

 

[Sarge]

In order to "stretch" a defense you need only get behind the CB once in a while. That doesn't require blazing speed at all. Michael Irvin commanded a double team and averaged more yards per catch than most of the receivers in the Hall of Fame. He was far from a guy who got great separation. The same applies to Jerry Rice, Andre Reed and Cris Carter.

I watch a great deal of Fitz and watched him in college, I think he has more "speed" than the men I mentioned in the previous paragraph. He is a stud and constantly beats one on one coverage, that's why his numbers are so inflated. He plays alongside Boldin who has been the #1 receiver in AZ and demands double teams, so if a QB follows his progressions properly he will find the person in one on one matchups. The fact that he put up the numbers he did this season tells me that you can't put him in a one on one situation too often as a defense because he will make you pay.

....but have you seen him "in person." If not, you don't know what you're talking about............

 

[CrazyCowboy]

now he is a player that I like......alot

 

[Hailmary]

hopefully fitz will refuse to restructure and he will be released! it would be the smart move in the long run for him even if he doesnt come to the cowboys because he would likely join a contender anyways and get his money. although hopefully its us

If this happens, I can see him going back home to Minny.

 

[wileedog]

Wait wait wait...

There are AZ fans?



p.s. If there is even a remote chance this is real (and it may be, the Cards are already paying Boldin, even with a restructure are they going to dole out #1 WR money to two guys?), do it. Fast.

I'd far rather have Fitz then Good Roy Williams and he's better than any WR in this draft - and almost the same age too.

 

[Temo]

Just a couple things...

1. First by "restructure", they could simply just convert his roster bonuses to signing bonuses, and prorate the amount out over a few years. It won't cost Fitz anything and it's done all the time in the league.

2. Second, I gotta agree with mr.jameswoods on this one. Fitz is a nice player, although I'd say he's more of a Chris Carter type than a Burress. But he's definitely not a top 5 guy, and I don't know that we need another possession reciever, especially since you'd probably have to overpay to get him.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

In order to "stretch" a defense you need only get behind the CB once in a while. That doesn't require blazing speed at all. Michael Irvin commanded a double team and averaged more yards per catch than most of the receivers in the Hall of Fame. He was far from a guy who got great separation. The same applies to Jerry Rice, Andre Reed and Cris Carter.

I watch a great deal of Fitz and watched him in college, I think he has more "speed" than the men I mentioned in the previous paragraph. He is a stud and constantly beats one on one coverage, that's why his numbers are so inflated. He plays alongside Boldin who has been the #1 receiver in AZ and demands double teams, so if a QB follows his progressions properly he will find the person in one on one matchups. The fact that he put up the numbers he did this season tells me that you can't put him in a one on one situation too often as a defense because he will make you pay.

Commanding a double team and beating someone deep are different issues. Irvin was a great receiver but he wasn't known to beat people deep. He did it on occassion but he was a possession receiver who made his living running slants and posts and essentially fighting people for the ball. He was a physical receiver. Rice was in the west cost offense and made most of his yards after the catch on quick outs. Cris Carter and the word deep don't belong in the same sentence. And I'm not sure Fitzgerald is necessarily faster than Rice and Irvin. The Cardinals don't have a running game and use the pass to substitute for the run which is why he has so many receptions since he is used to running short routes over the middle or in the flats.

 

[wileedog]

Commanding a double team and beating someone deep are different issues. Irvin was a great receiver but he wasn't known to beat people deep. He did it on occassion but he was a possession receiver who made his living running slants and posts and essentially fighting people for the ball. He was a physical receiver. Rice was in the west cost offense and made most of his yards after the catch on quick outs. Cris Carter and the word deep don't belong in the same sentence. And I'm not sure Fitzgerald is necessarily faster than Rice and Irvin. And if you do sincerely watch the Cardinals, you will note that Fitzgerald rarely goes deep and gets most of his yards underneath.

Who cares? Speed is cheap. Talented WRs are not.

Get a Stallworth who won't break the bank and you are set up perfectly.