Back in the 1970s, did DFW people care more about the Cowboys

[Reality]

You ask a specific about the CITY OF DALLAS yet you take the opinions of those not from Dallas over myself and ufcrules who are actually from there. :laugh2:

Because the two of you know the opinions of everyone else in the DFW area .. or is it that you know XX (insert randomly picked number large enough to make it sound like it matters) people in the DFW area who think exactly like you do? Always love to hear that one ..

/reality

 

[Reality]

It really comes down to winning. Fans these days have short attention spans. We as a society like winners and anything else is an after thought. In the South, I never saw a single Patriots jersey or even heard anyone claim to be a fan before Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl. I never saw any Baltimore Ravens jerseys, hats, etc. on people either but I have seen several since they won the Super Bowl.

The moment the Cowboys go deep in the playoffs again, fans will come out of the cracks again .. after they put away their Brady, Manning, Flacco, etc. jerseys of course.

/reality

 

[jobberone]

that hurts.

I see you conveniently left out the corrected stats.

 

[DandyDon1722]

It really comes down to winning. Fans these days have short attention spans. We as a society like winners and anything else is an after thought. In the South, I never saw a single Patriots jersey or even heard anyone claim to be a fan before Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl. I never saw any Baltimore Ravens jerseys, hats, etc. on people either but I have seen several since they won the Super Bowl.

The moment the Cowboys go deep in the playoffs again, fans will come out of the cracks again .. after they put away their Brady, Manning, Flacco, etc. jerseys of course.

/reality

I recently did some work with a company that sells high end silk carpets from Turkey. The guys had heavy accents and have only been here for a year. One of them wore a Cowboys star hat every day and the other one had a Cowboy license plate that they bought before coming here and make no mistake - they knew their stuff.

That is an example of how different things are today.

 

[JPostSam]

That's very disingenuous. You need to combine 60-66 and 86-88 to Landry's era and add 89-99 to Jerry's era.

1960 through 1989:

250-162-6 record 0.598
20 straight winning seasons (still an NFl record)
18 playoff appearances
12 conference championship appearances
5 super bowl appearances
2 super bowl victories
20-16 playoff record .556

1989 through 2012:

206-178 record 0.536
13 winning seasons with 3 8-8 seasons .619 non losing record %
12 playoff appearances
4 conference championship appearances
3 super bowl appearances
3 super bowl victories

So 2 less SB appearance but 1 more victory over 24 years vs 29 years for Landry. 12 playoff appearances in 24 years vs 18 in 29 years.

So those numbers don't look nearly as bad. I'll give you Landry was better than any coach we ever had even Parcells by a fair shot. And Landry was more successful and consistent. But those are different times than today and I don't know how to compare them well now.

the point was to compare the height of cowboys success and mania with the team's recent disappointments, not to rate the success of the franchise over the entirety of its existence.

of course, the early 90s run was epic. and the early 60s were a struggle. but that 20-year run of winning records is what made the cowboys america's team, and the ignoble end of landry's career did not undo it.

similarly, the brilliant stretch of success that the team enjoyed in the first half of the 90s was all too brief, and the mediocrity that has troubled the team since then has been so long that it no longer offers much joy.

...i do hope, though, to some day contribute to a thread asking for a comparison of the mid-60s to mid-80s teams and the early 90s teams with the dynasty of the mid-2010s.

 

[muck4doo]

The NFL was not nearly as popular 30 years ago as it is today. I enjoy reading threads and articles on the topic of "the demise of the Cowboys fanbase" because it's all complete crap.

What people fail to realize is that society and people in general are different now. If my baseball team falls out of playoff contention long before the season is over, I quit watching their games. Yet, next season, I'm right there watching their games again.

The internet, mobile devices and video on demand have greatly impacted how we watch tv completely. I have not watched TV shows live on my tv in years other than Cowboys games. A lot of people subscribe to NFL Rewind to watch games when they want to watch them instead of having to fit into the NFL's schedule.

I realize that the haters need threads like these so they can all chime in with there "I'm right there with you, brother!" comments as if it will have some sort of psychological impact. I am sorry to disappoint you (and I can name most of you now who desperately need everyone to think like you do), but the rest of us still like our team and we will continue liking our team even if we go 1-15 again.

Fans come out in droves when their team is winning and they hide their gear and moan about the "Good ol' days, before <insert random target of blame here>" and hope to convince enough people to think they way they do in the flawed logic that it will make a difference.

/reality

Nice bit or reality there reality.

 

[muck4doo]

the point was to compare the height of cowboys success and mania with the team's recent disappointments, not to rate the success of the franchise over the entirety of its existence.

of course, the early 90s run was epic. and the early 60s were a struggle. but that 20-year run of winning records is what made the cowboys america's team, and the ignoble end of landry's career did not undo it.

similarly, the brilliant stretch of success that the team enjoyed in the first half of the 90s was all too brief, and the mediocrity that has troubled the team since then has been so long that it no longer offers much joy.

...i do hope, though, to some day contribute to a thread asking for a comparison of the mid-60s to mid-80s teams and the early 90s teams with the dynasty of the mid-2010s.

The Cowboys were as loved if not more so in the 70's than the 90's. I grew up in the Bay Area during the 70's, everyone either liked the Cowboys, or Raiders. Some Rams fans would pop up here and there. In the 80's a bunch of Raiders fans turned into 49ers fans. I never met a 49er fan in the 70's.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

It's obvious. The only ones who say it's the same are the ones who are not from DFW.

I'm not from DFW and I know it's not the same.

 

[jobberone]

the point was to compare the height of cowboys success and mania with the team's recent disappointments, not to rate the success of the franchise over the entirety of its existence.

of course, the early 90s run was epic. and the early 60s were a struggle. but that 20-year run of winning records is what made the cowboys america's team, and the ignoble end of landry's career did not undo it.

similarly, the brilliant stretch of success that the team enjoyed in the first half of the 90s was all too brief, and the mediocrity that has troubled the team since then has been so long that it no longer offers much joy.

...i do hope, though, to some day contribute to a thread asking for a comparison of the mid-60s to mid-80s teams and the early 90s teams with the dynasty of the mid-2010s.

Well, that's fair enough and I would agree the drought has been too long. I'm worrying I'll never live to see another SB win by the Boys. And I'm not under any illusion we've had a coach the likes of Landry and maybe we never will. Long ago I wondered if we would win it all this year and if not who would beat us in the CC game. Now I wonder if we will make the playoffs. That's a far cry from the 'good ole days'. And yes Jerry has mucked it up but he's gotten better since he brought Parcells here. So there is hope for us all esp us 'old timers'.

 

[utrunner07]

They cared more then. Isn't it obvious? Jerry Jones has drained this fanbase.

I don't know that he has drained it numerically as much as he has drained it qualitatively. There are still a ton of fans but most of them now days fall into the blind, ignorant, low information fan or the north Dallas rich crowd who has nothing better to do with their money so they buy tickets and stuff but are really not true fans. I'd say the true blue collar salt of the earth type fans, while remaining a fan of the franchise, are mainly disenfranchised with what Jerry has done to the fan base and are waiting patiently (or not so patiently) for the time when Jerry moves on and hoping that his son who will inherent his dictatorial thrown will either be better than Jerry or sell/lose the team.