Bad call in Super Bowl

[Reverend Conehead]

This bad call didn't make a difference in the outcome of the game, of course. The Seahawks certainly earned their championship. However, it was a bad call nonetheless. When Russell Wilson was out of the pocket and being chased by defenders, he threw a shuffle pass to no one to avoid a sack. However, the ball didn't get to the line of scrimmage. By rule that's intentional grounding. The announcers were saying that the refs must have thought the ball got close enough. However, that's not the rule. By rule the ball has to get back at least to the line of scrimmage or it's grounding. Flag should have been thrown.

 

[CyberB0b]

This bad call didn't make a difference in the outcome of the game, of course. The Seahawks certainly earned their championship. However, it was a bad call nonetheless. When Russell Wilson was out of the pocket and being chased by defenders, he threw a shuffle pass to no one to avoid a sack. However, the ball didn't get to the line of scrimmage. By rule that's intentional grounding. The announcers were saying that the refs must have thought the ball got close enough. However, that's not the rule. By rule the ball has to get back at least to the line of scrimmage or it's grounding. Flag should have been thrown.

So how do you explain it when they throw at the feet of their RB on a busted screen?

 

[dogunwo]

Are you sure that's the rule? It isn't grounding when a screen pass is thrown into the dirt.

 

[dargonking999]

Yay!!!

bad Call!!!

Woot! woot!

 

[CowboyStar88]

The backup TE is who he was trying to shovel the ball to. Watch the replay

 

[AbeBeta]

This bad call didn't make a difference in the outcome of the game, of course. The Seahawks certainly earned their championship. However, it was a bad call nonetheless. When Russell Wilson was out of the pocket and being chased by defenders, he threw a shuffle pass to no one to avoid a sack. However, the ball didn't get to the line of scrimmage. By rule that's intentional grounding. The announcers were saying that the refs must have thought the ball got close enough. However, that's not the rule. By rule the ball has to get back at least to the line of scrimmage or it's grounding. Flag should have been thrown.

The announcers said it got close enough to a receiver.

 

[CyberB0b]

You're wrong:

1. Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.
2. Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, while out of the pocket and facing an imminent loss of yardage, throws a pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including if the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or end line).

It is either, or.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Are you sure that's the rule? It isn't grounding when a screen pass is thrown into the dirt.

If there's a receiver in the area, it's not grounding, but there was no receiver in the area.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

The announcers said it got close enough to a receiver.

I may have misunderstood. I thought they were saying it was close enough to the line of scrimmage. I thought, "Wait a minute. The rule doesn't say it has to get close enough. It says it has to get there."

 

[DFWJC]

So how do you explain it when they throw at the feet of their RB on a busted screen?

If it's a forward pass and thrown very near an elgible receiver, than it's ok.
In the play in question, there was no receiver in the vicinity.

 

[CyberB0b]

If there's a receiver in the area, it's not grounding, but there was no receiver in the area.

Yes, there was

 

[CyberB0b]

Anyone know what part of the game it was? I will post a screenshot.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Yes, there was

I don't remember seeing a receiver there, but if there was one, then it wasn't a bad call. The rule doesn't require that it be a good pass, only that a receiver be there.

 

[Lonestar94]

If it looks like he was trying to get the ball to a receiver they are not gonna call it

 

[CyberB0b]

I don't remember seeing a receiver there, but if there was one, then it wasn't a bad call. The rule doesn't require that it be a good pass, only that a receiver be there.

So why did you make this thread???

 

[Reverend Conehead]

So why did you make this thread???

Because I thought it was a bad call. It sounded like the announcer was saying it the ref can make a judgment call if the ball comes close enough to the line of scrimmage, but that's not the rule. The rule says it has to get there, not come close to it.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

I don't really remember many bad calls, or non calls last night. I actually though Wilson got the first down, early on, when Carrol threw the review flag, but it wasn't really obvious enough to complain about.

 

[Jenky]

Announcers said the ball might be close enough to the TE.

I know the ball didn't make it to the blue line (LOS) so I thought it was a penalty for sure. Then I saw the receiver.

 

[xwalker]

This bad call didn't make a difference in the outcome of the game, of course. The Seahawks certainly earned their championship. However, it was a bad call nonetheless. When Russell Wilson was out of the pocket and being chased by defenders, he threw a shuffle pass to no one to avoid a sack. However, the ball didn't get to the line of scrimmage. By rule that's intentional grounding. The announcers were saying that the refs must have thought the ball got close enough. However, that's not the rule. By rule the ball has to get back at least to the line of scrimmage or it's grounding. Flag should have been thrown.

It has to go over the line IF they QB is out of the pocket AND there is no receiver in the area.

If there is a receiver in the area, it does not have to cross the line. Think about how many times a pass to a RB is not completed while the RB is still behind the line.

When the announcers said is was close, they were referring to the receiver, not the line.

 

[SSWilliams31]

There was a TE dragging a cross